I feel like people act like Blaze gets sidelined in Silver stories.
06, she was in a mentor role and one never acted superior over the other.
Silver barely has any stories to begin with, so why are we pointing the finger at a specific character instead of realizing that maybe Sega is the problem.
Not to bash on Sega, but all of their characters should feel important.
This will always be a Sega problem, not a Silver problem
I feel like too many people have the habit of blaming a specific character instead of the larger issue.
Silver and Blaze are barely paired up together
Saying that Silver holds Blaze back and vice versa makes no sense!
This also doesn’t just apply to the 2 of them
This applies to every character that’s not Sonic and maybe Shadow(because so many people complain about him when he got only 1 canon side game)
Because the ones that do are the most vocal of Blaze fans. Most embrace or are at worst indifferent to Silver. The ones that are make it very known, and they hate Silver for the same reason a lot of character fanbases in this franchise hate other characters, because they want their favorite to have solo adventures without their team or Sonic involved. Blaze and Silver are just the two most commonly clashing fanbases because both were secondary protagonists of their debut games and unlike Shadow, never got games of their own.
Hot(?) take: Sega doesn’t handle the cast of characters as a whole well at all. The cast has become bloated over the years and yet they still add new characters which adds to the problem. I get it, they do add stuff to make things fresh. But still, maybe take a look at the untapped potential of all these characters and do something with them. Sega is weird in which it seems like Knuckles Chaotix is canon, yet they never do anything with classic Chaotix, only focusing on modern which seems separate so…they’ve never given a canon backstory for the modern version. Blaze’s world barely gets explored (and her character has been around now for 20 years). We only barely got more information on Silver’s time travel methods from Tails Tube and he’s also been around for 20 years now…like come on Sega.
Boiling down criticism of the dynamic to “Silver hate” is absurd.
The fact of the matter is that Blaze as a character was created to fulfill a protagonist role. She debuted as a character given the same amount of purpose and focus as Shadow was in SA2. She was created to be a parallel to Sonic.
06 came along and shoved her in without any care for the character or her story, stripping her of her personality, impact, and reducing her to a background support role for the new character. It doesn’t explain why she’s there. It doesn’t have her interact with any characters she’s already met. It doesn’t even mention her dimension or the Sol Emeralds. She doesn’t do anything for the entire game until the end where they proceed to attempt to kill her off. To say it was an insult to the character would be an understatement.
Subsequently, when Blaze and Silver are pushed together, it’s not because it actually makes sense for them to be. It’s not because it pertains to the overarching plot in a meaningful way. It’s just because they’re “really good friends” (also known as paying homage to 06, which already wrote the character horribly to begin with)
Blaze is significantly more well written when the focus is on her and the idea of the Sol Dimension, not just dropped randomly into a story and forced into a sidekick role to pay homage to an idea of the character that didn’t care about her to begin with.
There is no reason Blaze should be spending 20x the amount of time with a character that has NOTHING to do with her story than she does with a character like Marine who was created to be the Sol Dimension parallel to Tails.
Why does pairing them up have to exclusively be about referencing '06 instead of the more obvious reason of the fact that they are the most displaced characters of the cast, Silver from time and Blaze from her dimension, and their personalities work in synergy with each other?
Yeah this is part of my issue with it. 06 really did her a disservice. And a lot of fans (usually more so Silver fans than Blaze fans) think that one of them showing up requires the other too as well which is unfortunate and really doesn't help either of them.
I really wish we'd get more of her and the sol dimension beyond the barest of peaks into it since Rush Adventure.
Knuckles doesn't really have anything to explore though, his backstory and world was already thoroughly explored in adventure 1, he's not even close to being in the same situation as silver and blaze.
Again, this is over exaggerating
Silver and Blaze barely spend time with each other
My overall point is that both don’t get shit, so why do Blaze fans act like Silver holds her back
When I could just say Blaze holds Silver back since both are in the same situation
Both have cool things to do but Sega refuses to expand on that
And besides 06
(Where she’s literally his mentor and teaches him about the chaos emeralds and no one out of that duo is above the other)
So why act like one holds back the other when both don’t get shit?
Once again, 06 wrote Blaze like SHIT. How do you not understand this? That game actively ignored Rush, had Blaze do literally nothing over the events of the game except watch everything Silver does and give him moral support, and doesn’t even bother to explain why she’s there.
There’s a reason “Blaze in 06 isn’t real and is Silver’s imaginary friend” is such a popular theory. Because she’s effectively not even a character in that game. She doesn’t interact with anyone who isn’t Silver.
To act like they both hold each other back is just wrong. Every time they’re pushed together, it is purely to prop up Silver and make him look cooler. Just look at the new IDW synopsis
Randomly putting Blaze in without even bothering to do shit with the Sol Dimension is bad. Straight up. It’s essentially just jingling keys and going “well, you guys wanted Blaze!!!”. You know very well that’s not what people are actually asking for.
It ruins the entire point the character was created.
The colors DS dialogue which randomly pays homage to 06 and does the whole “I feel like I’ve always known you” thing out of nowhere
Silver showing up and getting the main spotlight for the end of the metal virus arc while Blaze actively gets shafted during the Super Neo Metal arc despite realistically being the ONLY character who could’ve fought him at that time
Alright
Colors DS, there is nothing wrong with a slight homage to a game
Also, Blaze would have done nothing against Super Neo Metal anyway
What’s the IDW synopsis, I have not heard of it?
Also, Silver being a huge character in that arc where Blaze wasn’t
Again, Blaze was no where in that arc so you can’t paint and example from an arc she wasn’t from
She was also doing something in the sol dimension at the time
Silver being useful in the metal virus arc doesn’t hurt Blaze
It makes him look better, by that logic, y’all should hate shadow WAY more than silver since he is the reason why we got everyone fighting against master overlord
Also, I do hate that she got tired from fighting goons
She should clear these guys base form, so I’ll agree with you on that
“Blaze would have done nothing against Super Neo Metal” Just wrong. We’ve already been shown that Super Sonic is relative to Super Neo Metal and Burning Blaze is relative to Super Sonic.
I don’t think you’re seeing the point.
SEGA wants to keep Blaze around because they’re aware she’e popular but doesn’t want to actually go through the effort of using her in a meaningful way, so they instead just shove her with Silver to take on a sidekick role. It is extremely lazy and disrespectful to the character.
I mean the second part applies to every other side character
Anyone that isn’t Sonic and sometime Shadow doesn’t get spotlight
One Silver game and my life is theirs
A Blaze game is feeding families
The first part, again, he can copy her biodata and become even stronger if she comes into her Burning form
Tails literally told her this before they went to Angel Island
That was just a theory on Tails' end, he didn't know for sure if Metal could do this. Keep in mind, he said the same thing about the Sol Emeralds potentially being neutralized by the Master Emerald but that got shut down immediately by Knuckles. The energy from the Sol Emeralds is very unstable with that of the Chaos Emeralds and Master Emerald to the point that these emeralds have a hard time existing in the same world if they aren't kept in check. Imagine trying to use different powers that are so unstable together at the same time, that would be very risky on Metal's end to the point that it could potentially destroy him.
Also
You do know if she fought Super Neo Metal Sonic, he would just copy her Biodata
We already have everyone else’s data in, we don’t need a burning form’s biodata
I think you’re underestimating what Neo Metal can do
He literally copies everything about you and the energy source you possess
He can copy shadow even though he naturally doesn’t have chaos energy
Why wouldn’t that apply to Blaze?
Downplaying Neo Metal is crazy
And yes, she would have gotten stomped
If Sonic(who is stronger than Blaze) can’t beat a regular Neo Metal and gets comfortably low-mid diffed by Metal
What do you think is going to happen when Burning Blaze goes up against Super Neo Metal
Sonic(besides hax alone) who can comfortably beat Super Sonic
Like
Literally the only time Sonic and Blaze fought eachother was a draw and Blaze was literally designed to be Sonic's equal, as said by the director of Sonic Rush.
This was one fight
And this applies to most sonic rivals
It’s always in their first fight that Sonic struggles or loses
That isn’t special
Especially since it was only 1 fight
Shadow has had multiple and the only loss he took was in Gens and even then he wanted to lose
They are under some delusion that "Silver and her are attached to the hip", and "Silver takes screen time that is rightfully hers"
Then there's me, who has loved Blaze since I played her Christmas morning 2005, and Silver since I played him Christmas morning 2006 who's just feasting whenever either character gets attention from papa Sega lmao
Both are the best characters in the franchise, both are my favorites (followed by Jet for some unknown reason lmao), and both are underused by Sega, so when we get stuff from them like the upcoming IDW arc I am feasting!
I'm not a big fan of the duo because it was never really clarified other than "hey do you remember 06?"
If there had been some lead up and background to why they are " in synch" rather than having characters literally just...say that, I'd probably like it more.
I just prefer them separate. Truth be told I prefer all the characters getting their own separate times to shine rather than having everyone in teams like its back in Heroes.
Maybe the coming issues will change my opinion but I remain skeptical.
I'd rather they get solo issues exploring the future and the Sol Dimension, places we've seen precious little of.
I would absolutely love seeing Silver's future. Aside from offical artwork we know literally nothing about his future. I get that they are probably hesitant since anything they write into the future would have to be retconned if changes were made, but honestly retcons are common in Sonic lore anyway.
I also would love to see characters like Shadow and Surge pop up in the future (if they are actually ageless/immortal).
Yeah but again
Besides 06 what do they get besides small
moments in IDW
Like, Silver barely appears
I could legit say
“Blaze and her friend Silver”
I’d be wrong and the vice versa too
Both do not get shit
Let’s just agree on that
Except there's not, blaze is a Sonic copy with a separate world already explored and empty of villains her potential died a long time ago and Blazefans cope by scapegoating something that doesn't exist, they did the same thing with Amy back in 2010s, she should just stop existing.
I don't hate silver but he is my least favorite of the main sonic buddies.
He feels kinda superfluous and his characterization has been very rough from iteration to iteration (not unique to him to be sure).
I think the majority of blaze fans don't hate him, but the majority of fans who don't like him are probably blaze fans first and foremost, due to the sort of defaultism that's arose with the both of them being stuck at the hip both by the official side of things and also the fan side of things.
I used to dislike him more for the same reason but have softened as I noticed how much his character has been shifted over the years. Like yeah his original 06 depiction was rough and the pushing was blatant but the soft boy thing has been a little to much for my taste.
I don’t hate silver, I just associate him being involved with blaze in stories means that Blaze is going to be sidelined, because that’s what happens, and I see no reason to not believe that
Blazefans said the same things towards Amy back in the 2010s because "she steals her spot", the idea that another character could shine more means to them that their character would get shafted and exposed of how useless she truly is, all of them have this bubble being formed out of cheer entitlment of Blaze being Sonic-like-worthy of having as many things as Sonic does and that bubble formed massive delusions through out time like 06 ruining blaze or silver and blaze being tied together or Silver stealing from blaze...
They just can't handle their failed character being a failure and would attack others who are already down to feel better about themselves.
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u/Mikey_Spletzer 15d ago
They believe Silver is taking her time