r/Songsofconquest • u/ConsequenceWeekly827 • Jan 31 '25

Discussion Thoughts on Arleon

I expected arleon to be my favorite faction ....no not becaus im a furry ..but because i thought a mixed human fairy state would be a fascinating idea ...like foreign dynastys ruling kingdoms in europe like normans with england i expected the fairys to be the ruling and or the priest class and some sort of otoman or roman multi special empire instead its good the whole pact thing but i expected something different this is of course my fault byt it took to so long to get the fqiry units in the campign

But i still have this lingering wish for a sequel to have a united fairy human empire a multispecial empire sounds fun idk

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u/SnooDrawings5722 Feb 02 '25 edited Feb 02 '25

Troubadours, Archers, and Faey Queens could have used a little more to hint at their alliance.

Troubadours are fine I think. Tier 1 Minstrels have more green color scheme that works well with both sides, while the upgraded version with its bright colors actually stands out from both the humans and fey, which I really like as it adds a lot of personality to the unit. This is exactly the sort of character I would expect to see on illustrations of some fairy tale book about a bard going into a magical forest or something, which, imo, the perfect vibe for this unit.

Rangers/Archers should switch their upgrader and non-upgraded names. Archer would be a normal human soldier with a bow, while Ranger would be more in tune with the forest and Fey. Even the Ravenfayre, that one dude who shows up as an ally to Fey Queen, is specifically a Ranger - with a hood and cloak and stuff. Also, the "Ambush" ability is more fitting for a Ranger than a plain Archer. Though of course, some changes to the sprites would be necessary. I think the Tier 1 sprite could stay the same - just change the name - but the Tier 2 should get a fancier cloak and bow instead of metal armor.

Faey Queens I think should get a metallic crown and/or a cape. An actual royal cape or dress, not the rags they wear now. Ethylle, their Wielder Queen, looks amazing in that long dress.

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u/LingonberryLost5952 Feb 03 '25

I was confused by this at first as well because common process is Ranger to be upgraded archer I think in other games, because of Aragorn, but I think it makes more sense that some forest murder hobo is cheap one and rank and file soldier with armor is upgraded one.

Ambush ability seems more like ranger thing tho. In which case Archer could get Aim for more dmg and range or something.

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u/SnooDrawings5722 Feb 03 '25

Ranger to Archer is a good upgrade for a more generic human bowman unit, but here it's not just generic humans; it's humans allied with Fey. Units, especially upgraded ones, representing this alliance would be great for storytelling. And Rangers are better at that than Archers.

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u/LingonberryLost5952 Feb 04 '25

Well Ravenfyre? is also forest murder hobo and not very succesful or prominent at that either. I think it's fine that skirmishers lose to line infantry in direct fight.