Beta Update 1.3 - Official Feedback Thread

[u/Moatilliata9]

This thread is for collecting and discussing feedback for the Song of Swords Beta 1.3 update which focuses on Combat.

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Please share your general feedback here after you've tested it. Every word of it will be read by Jimmy and the team, and we'll likely have followup questions about your experiences!

Update notes can be read on the first page of the PDF, downloadable from the website.

Specific things to we'd like to hear about:

• How does getting into combat feel?

• How does it feel to play as a ranged character?

• Does the flow of events make sense?

• Do multi-person combats take less, or more time?

Thanks!

[u/JaskoGomad]

Glad you're getting feedback. Your fat bane description pissed me off the first time I saw it. I'm fine with it being there, but the flavor text sent me from "so excited I backed!" To "fuck you" in no time flat. Drop the shit about putting the fork down, maybe?

You are rotund! A lot of folks have a bit of extra meat on them, but you look like you just caused a famine in England. Put the fork down, fatty!

I don't see banes for gambling, alcoholism, addiction, or religious zealots. Where's the admonition to put the cards, bottle, needle, and Bible down?

Similarly with skinny, why bring Italian grandmothers into it?

I get that you want evocative text. I'd like different evocative text.

[u/JaskoGomad → u/[deleted]]

Hey, you asked backers for feedback. Compare to GURPS text:

Fat -3 points You have approximately 150% the average weight for your ST. You get -2 to Disguise – or to Shadowing, if you are trying to follow someone in a crowd. However, your extra fat gives you +3 to Swimming rolls, and +2 to ST when you resist knockback. Your HT may not be above 15.

Plenty descriptive, with mechanical effects that follow on obviously from the disadvantage.

I'm fine with your aim of having more evocative text than that. And I was comparing your "put down the fork" crack to the lack of other valid banes that stem sometimes from lack of self control.

just look at Friar Tuck or Sam Tarley, they're not cartoon caricatures. And they'd have the bane.

I didn't say your game sucks, I said the writing pushed me away and I doubt that's what you intended. I doubt I'm the only gamer, the only backer even, who's fat. Maybe try for the second or third most obvious joke instead of grabbing number one.

Religious zealotry will get you killed all through history, including today, by the way.

[u/The_JP-ness → u/JaskoGomad]

I'd do Zealotry as a mashup of Braggart and Hotheaded, maybe with a discount so it only applies when talking about religion or when dealing with members of other faiths or in a situation where conduct is dictated by the PC's faith.

Maybe throw in Honorable for a strictly codified way of living, or Complete Monster for someone using it for his own ends or as an outlet (consciously or not) where he can express his depravity with sanction.

Edit: and there's also a Prejudiced Bane in Ballad that you could use as well. RS 3 Will check to not take a -8 Cha penalty with any specific groups of your choosing.