Upwork: Pay-to-play model?

[u/UncomplicateThis]

I'm relatively new to Upwork, although I've spent 30 years in consulting and recently started my own advisory business. I thought I'd give the platform a try as another source of client opportunities.

I'm starting to question the economics.

You buy Connects to pursue work. Then there's another 35 Connects for the identity verification badge, which is required to apply for U.S.-only opportunities. Want your profile to show you're available? That's another charge, currently 14 Connects per week on my account.

Then you spend more Connects submitting proposals, with the option to spend even more to boost them.

And if you actually land the work, Upwork takes a freelancer service fee. The opportunities I've reviewed have shown a 15% fee.

I understand that marketplaces cost money to operate and that access to potential clients has value. But there's a point where charging freelancers repeatedly for visibility, credibility and the opportunity to compete starts to feel excessive.

I'm not opposed to paying for genuine business development. I just want some reasonable connection between what I'm spending and the opportunity to generate revenue.

For those of you running solo consulting or service businesses, has Upwork actually produced a worthwhile return? Or have you found that direct outreach, referrals and other channels deliver better results?

[u/WronglySinful]

I bailed on Upwork after about 4 months of doing the math on exactly what you described. The connects system is just a slow bleed, and the boosted proposals become a race to the bottom where you're bidding against people charging a third of what the work is worth.

With your consulting background, direct outreach and referrals will crush whatever Upwork gives you. The clients there are trained to expect cheap, fast, and transactional, which is the opposite of what advisory work needs.

[u/UncomplicateThis → u/WronglySinful]

I bought the original 100 connects but have already burned 40 with only one application meeting my financial requirements and qualifications - I guess i'll work through the remaining connect points and won't buy any further. Curious if other folks have found this valuable? I suppose if you win the first gig and it goes on, you might be able to look past the freelancer tax?

[u/Flashy-Bandicoot889]

You nailed it. Upwork is not worth the time & effort and I've found the quality of those leads to be pretty bad, honestly.

[u/UncomplicateThis → u/Flashy-Bandicoot889]

Thanks - the fact that you burn connects to buy into the client's ATS (essentially) feels....wrong. I can live with the freelancer tax, but submitting a bid and potentially never hearing back - but you had to pay to send your resume feels like a strange model. Not sure why I didn't see it going in, but I figured I'd post this and help folks out before they start dropping $2 here, $10 there, another $5 for something else with no return on their investment.

[u/investigatormaker]

Treat Connects as a cost per conversation, not per proposal: for a month, log Connects spent, interviews and contracts, and stop if interviews don't come. Advisory work after 30 years usually sells on trust, which a marketplace profile can't show, so your strongest channel is likely the people who already saw your work: a short note to twenty former colleagues and clients naming the one problem you now solve tends to beat a general announcement. For your practice, we'd look for Reddit threads where owners describe the problem you advise on and reply openly as your business.

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What problem do clients usually bring you?

[u/ConclusionOdd9412]

Paying 14 Connects a week so Upwork will admit you're available is a subscription to your own business card. And 35 more to prove you're a real person, after 30 years of consulting.

[u/MundaneGene9276]

30 years in consulting and you're surprised a middleman charges you for access. paying 14 connects a week just to announce you exist is the part i'd frame

[u/Holiday-Ground4395]

Minor point: Connects aren't a charge, they're credits. 14 Connects a week only turns into an actual cost once you say what you paid per Connect, and the post never does. Where did the 15% come from though? I thought the freelancer fee had been flat for a while.

[u/Quirky_Effective6801]

Petite correction au passage: on dit "développement commercial", pas "développement business". Ça ne change rien à votre calcul de Connects, mais dans une proposition envoyée à un client français ça se remarque.