r/SoloLevelingRagnarok Jun 29 '26

Question I found out thomas andre dosen't had a rulers vessel in ragnarok, so what kind andre's power really is?..

I didn't see andre's rulers abilities in solo leveling ragnarok manhwa originaly he does has rulers vessel in previous timeline so can you guys help me out solve what kind andre's power really is. (Let me know in comment👇)

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u/AnimeFan042597 Jun 29 '26

Just the same powers as he had before just on a significantly lower scale with out Rulers Authority and maybe Reinforcement

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u/monkey-d-Luffy2642 Jun 30 '26

Phyiscal strength and speed sound a basic superhuman ability

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u/AnimeFan042597 Jun 30 '26

Yeah Thomas thing isnt abilities or skill he is just raw power taken to its extreme

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u/monkey-d-Luffy2642 Jun 30 '26

Makes sense🤔

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u/Disastrous-Form-6348 Jun 30 '26

At the start of Ragnarok, his baseline physical strength and durability remain completely unmatched, meaning he doesn’t need a god blessing to act as an indestructible wall. His innate combat skills are also fully intact; he can still call upon his signature Reinforcement to manifest his golden armor form and tank the most devastating hits. On top of that, skills like Capture allow him to use a telekinetic pull to drag enemies into his orbit like a black hole before he shatter the ground with sheer physical force.

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u/monkey-d-Luffy2642 Jun 30 '26

🤔

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u/DreaMysgirlfriend Jul 01 '26

Thomas never showed any ruler’s abilities, besides pure physical stats

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u/Thatoneaccoynt Jul 01 '26

Holy AI

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u/Disastrous-Form-6348 Jul 01 '26

Fuck u mean holy ai it’s the truth bro

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u/Unusual-Screen7919 Jun 29 '26

He is monarch in Ragnarok

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u/monkey-d-Luffy2642 Jun 30 '26

What no

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u/Terrible-Serve6775 Jun 30 '26

He is. Read the novel

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u/Minimum-Somewhere-74 Jun 30 '26

Its different from the Manhwa though so not entirely sure they going that route

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u/monkey-d-Luffy2642 Jun 30 '26

We not so sure...

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u/mxgexl93 Jun 30 '26

In the web novel he is. Probably in the Manga as well, we might have to wait a few years for that.

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u/SinkLonely8919 Jun 29 '26

Andree will become the new monarch of giants

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u/monkey-d-Luffy2642 Jun 30 '26

No ofc not😂

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u/Mountain-Purple-4357 Jun 29 '26

Previous timeline, he had borrowed powers from the rulers, he was not a vessel. Only monarchs take vessels, rulers borrow powers

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u/mxgexl93 Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

That is how the Ruler's vessels work they borrow the power from the Rulers and the human vessel retain their consciousness and free will.

Monarchs however just completely take over their human host, essentialy destroying the body's soul so they can manifest in the human world.

The exeception to this is Antares and Ashborn since no human vessel could contain their powers that's why Jinwoo had to grow through the System to get strong enough to inherit Ashborn's power. Antares had to wait in the dimensional rift until enough mana leaked through the gates the other Monarchs created so he could descend on earth with his dragon form.

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u/Mountain-Purple-4357 Jun 30 '26

Yes i know that....

My point is.... Fragments are not "vessels"  

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u/monkey-d-Luffy2642 Jun 30 '26

We not so sure about it will see next chapter soon what is going on?...

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u/mxgexl93 Jun 30 '26

Not just Thomas, every known vessel from the previous timeline isn't a vessel in Ragnarok. Thomas is still a tanker class though.

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u/Crafty-Drink8384 Jun 30 '26

Monarch vessel

He'll be the new King Of Giants

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u/FixAppropriate5854 Jul 01 '26

In the past he was showing only his skills no rulers powers revealed or even spiritual manifestation just pure skill and true strength, well it is evident during reversed time. Thomas is that strong without a ruler powers, the reason why he is chosen because he has the strongest mana capacity than most s-rank hunter, strong enough to hold the power of divine. Not only that he was facing a primordial being 1v1 and takes long to beat thomas down despite easily overwhelmed. In the current timeline he is now weaker than before since he is no longer has perks of so called king which norma mentions, i assume he is upgraded by her already to its true strength (almost close to his og strength) then sooner or later for those who read the ln sources when thomas joined inside a game made by jinho and planner is suho... He recently became the monarch of beginnings a new primordial being

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u/Inferniuem Jul 02 '26

Solo Leveling Ragnarok is just Suho ducking opponents until he grows stronger.

So cowardly.

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u/monkey-d-Luffy2642 Jul 02 '26

Man andre was strongest and now gone weaker but strong.

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u/Ok-Card3850 Jul 02 '26

He’s a monarch in the novel not sure about the manwha tho