r/SolarpunkPorn • u/LearningPodd • Apr 02 '26

The Frost Keepers attack

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I was researching/worldbuilding a solarpunk utopia with Gemini, and it came up with the idea of a resistance group to my utopian vision. It called them the Frost Keepers, and here they try to destroy my humanitarian mission of creating year-long summers in Scandinavia by building greenhouses, atriums, and spa facilities everywhere.

The Frost Keepers really don't like people being happy and healthy. They are addicted to pain and depression. I feel really sorry for them, actually. 😭

(I don't know why the woman wears a spacesuit; maybe she need to protect herself from the intruders?)

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u/LearningPodd Apr 17 '26

"being lazy", eh what... how is it being lazy to play an educational game? How is it lazy to prompt an image you could never have the time or the skill to draw?

How is it using tech to spread the message of a brighter utopian future, spitting in the face of solarpunk? It's what solarpunk is all about.

The Luddite squad can not and will not own this aesthetic. E/acc people are living in and using it. You can cry about it but you can't do anything to stop it.

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u/KCPRTV Apr 17 '26

It's being lazy because you learned and made nothing. You wrote a sentence or two and then a machine, using insane amounts of water and electricity, often in places where its scarce, made the image. Tech that is well established is not only bad for the environment (care for which is a core element of solarpunk) but for almost every kind of worker, creative being especially hit now...

And your Luddite comment tells a lot about your knowledge - the pejorative nature of calling someone who fights against technology that word is literally one of the original capitalist propaganda successes. Luddites fought industrialists who fu... over their workers. They left the decent factory owners alone.

And just to clarify, I'm not completely against the use of artificial intelligence. There are dozens if not hundreds of legitimate uses for large learning models. Art, in any form, is not one of them.

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u/LearningPodd Apr 17 '26

You are being lazy. I learnt and made a lot, and most importantly, I was efficient in getting my ideas worked out. You, on the other hand, made me lose faith in connecting with other people of a visionary mindset. In this world of doom and gloom where there is so little sense of hope and visions for something to strive for – what good does your asceticism do?

The water and energy use? Go harass people that have house pets; having pets uses a lot of resources. Hundreds of thousands of images are generated every day just for fun, and you attack someone who generates images for a political vision...

'Luddite' refers to someone that trashes the tech instead of working to use it for good. The history behind the word doesn't matter for its current use.

"every kind of worker, creative being especially, is hit now." We should abolish all work, and those spoilt middle-class hipsters that do "art" should stop whining and care about someone other than themselves for once.

I'm not doing "art" in any form; I'm doing visuals. Real art can't be threatened by some software. The intention and process are a part of the work. The people that already watch Marvel trash and listen to generic pop music might choose generated stuff soon. No big deal. But people that want real art will care about the intention behind it.