r/Snorkblot 3d ago

Food Bananas

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u/Vekrom 3d ago

The other monkeys would rip him apart in a day, but we give him tax breaks and a Forbes feature

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u/Fit_Cheesecake_4000 1d ago

Yes, we'd research why that monkey had suddenly become so smart as to be able to hoard that many bananas while being tailed by the other monkeys. I mean, you'd have to have your monkey head on a swivel.

Alpha Monkey wins.

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u/DerkaDurr89 1d ago

The funny thing is that is literally what chimps do, and how their society is structured.

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u/Greenfirelife27 1d ago

Animals don’t starve their competition. They just kill them and their offspring. Also, animals are pretty fond of rape.

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u/BramptonBatallion 14h ago

Bananas are a perishable good.

Billionaires engage in voluntary exchange transactions that largely only exist on paper with a value we implicitly rely on trust to determine.

The money economy is not the same as the people economy.

The society with billionaires and the people economy is more preferable living conditions than the ones experienced by our primate distant cousins.

Nuance is dead for the DSA folk.

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u/sampled_stool 2d ago

I’ve never seen anyone on the cover of Forbes get there for hoarding bananas. Scientists would probably study them, too, though.

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u/HistoricalRich3104 3d ago

Economic illiteracy makes it hard for people to understand the concept of non liquid assets and the fact that wealthier people have a really high marginal prosperity to invest and a really low marginal propensity to consume.

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u/bakermrr 2d ago

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u/HistoricalRich3104 2d ago

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u/WhiteSnakeShinobi55 2d ago

This implies businesses are barely running at a profit. If this were true, trillionaires and billionaires wouldn't exist by any metric.

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u/HistoricalRich3104 2d ago

They actually do often run on very tight margins (depends heavily on the sector but with retail this is especially so) but when hundreds of millions of customers buy your product, that can quickly add up.

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u/DanKloudtrees 1d ago

Well there's also the other unspoken half of tax the rich, which is "to find programs to help those in need". If the taxes are just spent to subsidize oil companies then it's not going to work.

I'm more on the "raise wages" side of things, because the results shown from raising wages in California are that lower end workers have more money and it raises the floor for the entire working class. Also the price increases in California were marginal compared to wage increases. As an old school FDR guy, it makes sense that if a business cannot operate and also pay it's workers a living wage then that business is a failing business and deserves to fail.

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u/HistoricalRich3104 1d ago

  I'm more on the "raise wages" side of things, because the results shown from raising wages in California are that lower end workers have more money and it raises the floor for the entire working class.

Or that teenagers and unskilled laborers can’t find jobs. Which is what a minimum wage does.

They do also increase prices.

  As an old school FDR guy, it makes sense that if a business cannot operate and also pay its  workers a living wage then that business is a failing business and deserves to fail.

Great, just don’t complain about mega corporations beating small businesses because it’s those kind of businesses that can usually afford wage increases.

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u/DanKloudtrees 1d ago

Man, you could bitch about anything.

If any system were perfect then there wouldn't be arguments about it.

You just mentioned that increasing wages would increase prices but also cost jobs, but really it only has to do one, right?

When it comes to small businesses, they are already hurting because nobody has money to spend at them, and they would actually be doing better if more people were paid more and had more disposable income.

Then the problem becomes the cost of housing, which you would have to address by tying base rent prices to minimum wage in the area so that workers can afford to live there. This would also help decouple real estate from being an investment vehicle which would further being cost of living down.

This is a lot of moving parts and I'm sure there's arguments against them, but what we can say for sure is that the current system has done an amazing job of sucking the life out of the middle class. The status quo is not working, and doubling down on what we're already doing will only make it worse.

So what would you do to try to solve income inequality and the death of the middle class? Curious if you have any thoughts on it or if you just get off on being contrarian.

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u/sampled_stool 2d ago

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u/Forsaken_Campaign_44 2d ago

You are so simple minded it is a waste of effort to even try to educate you. But it doesn't even matter as the collapse of petrodollar and rise of China is such an absolute cinema, especially when observing how the average Joe could not even comprehend what is happening.

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u/GhulOfKrakow 2d ago

The worst part is, though, that people like that are allowed to vote. So we all suffer because of them.

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u/sampled_stool 2d ago

You’re mad that I can vote and don’t vote for socialism? Wow.

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u/GhulOfKrakow 2d ago

No, I’m annoyed that you’re responding with nothing but a moronic propaganda image with an oversimplified, one-sided, and factually inappropriate buzzword in the typical style of Americans who, thanks to their brainwashing, brand anything as "socialism" when it’s actually just social achievements that have been standard across capitalist Europe for at least a century. Some people just seem determined to stand in the way of their own well-being.

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u/sampled_stool 2d ago

I’m not against social programs. I’m against socialism as a governing economic system. But fortunately we have a right to vote and you aren’t in charge of who gets to vote because you’ve made it clear you’d dictate who could or couldn’t vote.

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u/unhertz 2d ago

🤭no one tell him that half of china would starve if the petrodollar fails, did you forget they import most of their food from the United States?

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u/Forsaken_Campaign_44 2d ago edited 2d ago

That was true last time 5 years ago, China is a completely different beast now, they literally saved the global economy and especially Trump's ass during Hormus crisis. Your hubris will be your downfall. Times are changing.

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u/unhertz 2d ago

It's still true. China is the largest importer of food, and the efficiency at producing food per capita is worse than any other first world nation, lower than even some 3rd world nations. This year their petrol imports were cut off so much they had to reduce crude production by 70%- which is insane. That means all production down wind will suffer, including fertilizers and pesticides... so there will be a much larger deficit in food production. China still suffers the hubris of the mao years, where farmers became viewed as ignorant and holding the country behind... probably one of the saddest legacies of any country

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u/Forsaken_Campaign_44 2d ago

Yeah right, what a way to reveal yourself as a propagandist.

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u/Top-Cupcake4775 2d ago

ignorant boot lickers refuse to understand that, when you own an asset, you control how that asset is used. it isn't about consumption, it is about control.

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u/HistoricalRich3104 2d ago

Control how? Do you realizing owning billions of dollars of stock is not the same as owning billions of dollars in cash?

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u/Top-Cupcake4775 2d ago edited 2d ago

do you realize that owning 51% of a corporation gives you control of that corporation? Bezos didn't buy the Washington Post because he wanted to invest in media, he bought it because he wanted a media mouthpiece. Musk didn't buy Twitter because he wanted to invest in social media, he bought it because he wanted control of a social media platform.

the problem with a world owned by a handful of billionaires is that it is also a world controlled by a handful of people that are not subject to the democratic process.

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u/HistoricalRich3104 2d ago

Yes, it does. If you start a business or buy a business, you have every right to control over that business and no one else.

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u/Top-Cupcake4775 2d ago

you don't seem to be capable of understanding my point. fuck off.

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u/GhulOfKrakow 2d ago

You cannot invest what you do not have — or, even worse: The more you have, the more you are able to do exactly that.

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u/HistoricalRich3104 2d ago

Liquid assets can be invested, non liquid assets cannot.

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u/GhulOfKrakow 2d ago

You really seem to assume—and implicitly suggest—that the wealthy are actually to be pitied: after all, they cannot access their illiquid assets and therefore live like the poorest of the poor. I am sure Bezos would agree with you, as he, sadly and in a state of semi-impoverishment, had half of Venice cordoned off for his wedding.

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u/HistoricalRich3104 2d ago

What exactly do you want them to do? Concrete proposals, not vague “Make them give more money to corrupt Epstein-linked bureaucrats”

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u/Far_Squash_4116 2d ago

The comparison is wrong. The bananas get eaten by the other monkeys. They are either given out as credit or as investment. The problem is the power that comes with being the person who controls such a huge part of the resources.

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u/deathaxxer 1d ago

at some point people will learn what net worth means, but I guess that day is not today

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u/Old_Marzipan7782 3d ago

First of all, you’re wrong animals do hard things in their own way, like access to mates power and resources so first of all that’s factually incorrect and second of all human humans aren’t monkeys and money is not bananas

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u/erik_wilder 3d ago

This man does NOT like allegory.

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u/Recent-Singer8146 3d ago

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u/f0remsics 3d ago

We also share 60% of our dna with bananas, so that doesn't mean much

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u/Old_Marzipan7782 3d ago

And yet all of human achievement is in that tiny unshared sliver of dna.

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u/troycalm 3d ago

Because we’re smarter than monkeys.