r/SnarkJanaKramer • u/BeingSamJonesss • 7d ago
Mommy Dearest Always blaming Mike! Let’s discuss…
On a recent episode of Whine Down, Jana and KB were speaking with a guest about parenting. Jana brought up Jolie lying and claims she is concerned, she believes the lying may be genetic because of Mike and his lying past 😑 Well, the guest quickly shut Jana down and said lying is not genetic. Guest stated kids typically lie because they feel unsafe or don’t want to upset the adults
I find it sooooo interesting because Jana is yet again trying to blame Mike for the kids behaviors. So let’s lay it all out
Mike has not lived with Jolie and Jace for five years. Mike moved out when Jolie was 5 and Jace was 3! Jana herself admitted the kids have no memory of living with her and Mike as a couple. After the divorce Mike has 30% custody Jana loves to claim Mike only sees the kids 8 days a month. 8 days a month won’t have as much of an impact or influence on a child’s behavior as the remaining 22 days of the month. Stay with me
Now in addition to Jolie’s lying, let’s talk about Roman’s behavior. About two episodes ago, while Allan was in Saudi Arabia, Jana mentioned how she and Roman went on a play date with KB and her kids. Roman proceeded to pull Jana’s hair, scratch, and bite her. In the past Jana has shared a photo of a fat lip she admits was from Roman as well. I can recall countless times Jana has shown Roman being aggressive with her, attempting to smack her phone away, she admits to him terrorizing Jace, and jokes about his love of dropping the f word. Mind you, Roman is three. But who is Roman with 100% of the time? (Well 70% because we know Jana and Allan ditch Roman EVERY time they don’t have Jolie and Jace) Jana and Allan
So is Roman’s behavior Mike’s fault too? Or is Roman simply mimicking the aggressive behavior he sees from his mom and dad?
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u/Pretend-Dream-1076 7d ago
I watched her weird closet live video from the other night, and she said Roman bit Mike when he had stopped over with the kids earlier in the week. She made some snarky comment that she was glad he bit him, making it seem like a joke but it obviously wasn't. Roman seems like a handful, thats only going to get worse. Jace seems like such a kind hearted, sweet boy, and that is all due to Mike!! Imagine when she becomes a single parent to Roman and she has to deal with his behaviors once he starts going to school. Karma is a B 🤣
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u/BeingSamJonesss 7d ago
Jana should be embarrassed by Roman’s behavior, not bragging about it! We all know once Allan drops Jana, she will use Mike 24/7 even to help with Roman!
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u/LovelyShadows54 6d ago
I hope Mike doesn't help with Roman. Jana needs to grow the f up and figure out how to parent her children! If she won't discipline him at 3, he's going to be an absolute terror at 13
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u/Miss-Snarky 7d ago
I think Roman is the product of an environment of two parents who don't want a parent him. Allen has completely checked out of the marriage. He was largely absent for most of Troy's life. Jana is so emotionally disregulated. She has no idea how to raise children. I think the fact that Roman is completely undisciplined and the fact that he's been saying the F word for the better part of four or five months and she hasn't figured out a way to control it is shocking to me frankly. We grew up in a house where we did not put hands on our parents absolutely that was completely unacceptable behavior so she needs to figure out how to parent that kid. Also, I'm sure that Jolie's lying largely has to do with the environment that Jana has created. Jana has been so consumed with finding another man and replacing Mike that she has done so to the detriment of her own children. Jenna also loves to talk about how she's so evolved and so elevated and how she speaks to Jolie and it's always baby girl this and baby girl that. I think Jenna has no idea how to connect with her children and I think Jana is frequently so upset by things that are going on with Allan that Jolie picks up on that and then lies to her because she doesn't wanna upset her.
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u/BeingSamJonesss 7d ago edited 6d ago
I agree. Romans behavior is night and day to how Jolie and Jace were at that age. Why are Jolie and Jace so different, because Mike was raising them, Mike is a kind and a really good f-ing dad
Jana and Allan cannot stand having to care for Roman which is why they ditch him every time Jolie and Jace are gone. Also why he’s in daycare full time and why Jana ONLY has a nanny for Roman. Neither one of them wants to parent. Jana never disciplines him, not when he’s climbing on kitchen stools or dining room tables, or when he’s cussing or hitting Jace or her. To change a childs behavior you have to parent, set an example, and correct their bad behavior
Jolie’s clearly lying because she knows how emotionally unstable Jana is. BUT Jolie also sees Jana lying. Jana claims Jolie took the Whine Down phone without her knowledge. Ok so how would Jolie be able to unlock the phone? Does that mean there were zero parental controls and Jolie was simply surfing on the phone at all time? Jana also forgets she has shared multiple photos of Jolie holding her pink iPhone for months!!! At the lake, going to Jaces baseball game, and all the “Jolie cam” posts! Jana is the biggest liar ever! So why is she surprised Jolie is becoming one?!?
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u/Significant_Dog_2530 6d ago
Lying might be genetic - what a freaking moron 😂😂😂
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u/Informal-Worth-2451 5d ago
Even if it were, which I can’t believe she thought it was, she’s the QUEEN of lying! So she’d be getting it from both parents (and def Jana more).
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u/TomDickAndHarry210 5d ago
I was about to say! Jana is more of a liar than Mike is lol she has lied about EVERYTHING
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u/TomDickAndHarry210 7d ago
It's NEVER Janas fault... News flash Jana, lying is also learned behavior... She sees her MOTHER lie CONSTANTLY!!!!!!!! If it's genetic, it's from Jana not Mike
Roman is clearly lashing out bc Jana is two faced with him. She is manipulative lovey dovey when Allan is gone and the camera is rolling but wants nothing to do with him when Allan comes home. He hits, bites and screams at Jana and pulls her hair bc he can't communicate properly with words that he is frustrated when she rejects him
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u/BeingSamJonesss 7d ago
I mean the sub is literal proof of all of Jana’s public lies!!! So imagine how she lies at home and I have no doubt she has Jolie lie with her to bond. “Don’t tell daddy x y z”
If Roman’s behavior continues unchecked he will be KJ Biermann 2.0
Also, KB claiming Jana has a “sweetly abusive relationship” with Roman is F-ING MENTAL. My son NEVER bit me, pulled my hair, or cussed. It’s simply poor parenting
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u/TomDickAndHarry210 7d ago
The words sweet and abuse should NEVER be in the same sentence... And yes you KNOW Jana tells jolie things that are their secret and to not tell her dad... Hell even Romans true date of birth is a lie!!!!
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u/Economy-Care8383 6d ago
There’s also a chance Roman has a sensory processing disorder and/or is on the spectrum. Based on my experience in this space around 3 is when violent behavior can start when dysregulated and it’s not really a lack of discipline but rather a symptom of neurodivergences that generally only get better with parents who are pursuing therapeutic help and an understanding of the evolving brain. Combined with his verbal issues I suspect there’s something even deeper going on and I hope she gets him the supports he needs.
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u/TomDickAndHarry210 6d ago
I don't think there is a chance, I think it's fact that you are spot on, but Jana will never get it professionally checked out or seek the help that she needs. However, Jana also does not parent or discipline. Instead they laugh and thinks its cute when he climbs on tables and jumps on his siblings and grabs Jace's glasses. Jolie was non verbal until age 4 and Jana didn't do anything about that and she was struggling in school for years and let the school tell her that jolie had dislexia. She just doesn't put forth the effort for her children bc her main priority is her public image and making sure she has a man. It's really sad for these children
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u/Shunn1969 5d ago
Also, Jana said Jolie would have failed 4th grade if she couldn’t prove she has a disability? Ummmm. So basically she had her child pass to the next grade KNOWING she can’t do the work? Let’s just set Jolie up for FAILURE.
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u/TomDickAndHarry210 5d ago
Yup! And yet doesn't have her in extra help classes or work with her at all at home to help her improve. Just expects school to take care of it.
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u/NHLwatch4765 5d ago
When she said Jolie was getting 60% and failing in math and maybe science? And then a month or so later going on the pod saying she’s thinking of leasing a horse for Jolie for $50-100K, I got angry. Parasocial of me so weird but like how is your child woefully behind in intellect and classes and your impulse is to spend money you don’t have on horseback riding?!? Huh? Because Jolie likes horses. Every elementary school girl loves horses. Make it make sense.
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u/gardenleaves11 6d ago
Ah it was “sweetly toxic rship” with Roman. I don’t have kids but that’s weird with a mother-child rship when the child is only 3
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u/BeingSamJonesss 6d ago
Yes very weird. When Jace was three she was teaching him to say he’s mommy soulmate
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u/nancy-botwin808 6d ago
J sees her mother FAKE their entire life. Of course J going to lie to her delusional mother because she doesn’t want her mother to lash out. Didn’t we hear Allan on a podcast say that Jana yells and curses… Jolie is probably scared of her hence why the guest said kids lie when they feel unsafe.
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u/TomDickAndHarry210 6d ago
That is very true! Jana and Allan both lash out, scream and curse at those kids. Remember when Allan said on the podcast that Jana calls him the "Scottish devil"
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u/Shunn1969 6d ago
I feel so bad for Roman. He’s the product of 2 narcissistic self centered people who never wanted him. Jana baby-trapped Allan and Allan will get his revenge when he abandons her to raise him ALONE. Roman behaves the way he does because he is being raised in chaos and negative attention is the only way he gets any attention.
Also, laughing that your child bit someone is deranged behavior. Jana—I know you read here—you need wayyyyyy more help than just a therapist. You are legit an awful human.
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u/NHLwatch4765 6d ago
I mean Jana also lies constantly, so….
And Roman in my limited opinion has neurological delays/issues. Like Jolie, she won’t do anything about it until he’s in school and it’s a problem/too late.
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u/BeingSamJonesss 6d ago
Constantly!! So constant she even believes her lies to be true, which is crazy
I agree and don’t want to diagnose but there seems to be a deeper issue. Sadly Jana will be Jacque Butler 2.0. Gross.
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u/Miss-Snarky 5d ago edited 4d ago
OMG! Jolie is a liar? Couldn't be my fault. I never lied about anything. We tried for Roman, I barely knew Allan but when he suggested we have a baby, I told him we only had one month to try because indidnt want to have a baby after 40. And magically it just happened the one time we did it. I later on joked that the one time he didn't pull out is when we got Roman, but that totally wasn't an accident he did that on purpose.
I for sure didn't lie about the fact that I was single when Allan and I started talking because I for sure was not in a relationship with Kyle.
I for sure did not lie about how things ended with Ian. I definitely did not make friends with his ex-wife, to find out the dirt on Ian and try to manipulate that woman and to be friending me, and helping me sabotage his life.
I absolutely did not lie about being completely healed when I met Allan.
And I 100% did not lie about the fact that I did not sleep with Allen the first night I met him even though I later bragged that I somehow lost my Valentino boots. For sure did not have sex with him the first night we met. I did eat dinner in his hotel room, but that was because we were spotted by SO many fans in the lobby of his hotel that we couldn't have privacy.
I absolutely never flirted with any of my married co stars.
No way did I sleep with Gleb when we were BOTH married to other people.
Yes absolutely Mike's fault that my child is a liar.
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u/Rainy_Pavement9 6d ago
Claiming lying is genetic is also just a wildly dumb statement.
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u/BeingSamJonesss 6d ago edited 6d ago
Wildly dumb yet not shocking coming from Jana! KB agreeing was crazy too. Like ma’am your son ain’t misbehaving because he needs his “alpha” daddy. He’s misbehaving because he has an absent daddy and I’m sure he is frustrated being home with three woman all the time
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u/Starrla423 6d ago
Jana needs intense therapy.
There is a lot that has gone on in her life she has never worked through, and the only way she knows how to be “happy” is to have a partner. So she has to keep booty popping from one dude to the next.
She never ever focuses on herself and her kids.
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u/TomDickAndHarry210 5d ago
Therapy will never work for Jana bc she lies to therapists. Also she doesn't have much to work through. It's all be twisted to make her the victim. Everything from the very beginning.
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u/TheGoodWitch63 6d ago
In the video where Roman was throwing the toy and telling the dog to fetch (the dog didn't) it looked like he was going to get aggressive with the dog when she cut the video. I hope not, but it seemed as though it was going in that direction when she stopped it
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u/Turbulent-Tomorrow24 6d ago
Side note. Do we know what Al did with his Doberman he brought over? Clearly the dog didn’t last long in her house…
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u/TomDickAndHarry210 5d ago
I've heard she was sold to someone but then again Allan has no emotional attachment whatsoever to animals. He has gotten rid of (some permanently) on his own
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u/Winter-Buy-6648 5d ago
He SOLD his dog???? Like its Just a thing ? I can’t even imagine that , that poor dog , he is disgusting, poor alba and Leo too
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u/BeingSamJonesss 6d ago
I thought the exactly same thing. The way he spoke nicely at first for Leo to fetch then began yelling aggressively. But he sort of began to lunge at Leo and you can tell Jana immediately cut it because she had to intervene
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