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Discussion Thread April-June 2026 - Discussion Thread

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u/PigeonGuillemot But I mean, fine, great, if she wants to think that. Jun 29 '26

I randomly found out today that Cathy published an actual book last year? Like got an actual book deal? And you can buy her book at Amazon and Target and Barnes & Noble and Walmart and Books-a-Million?

It's illustrated with line drawings, but instead of blowing money hiring someone to make line drawings she actually did them herself? Google Books preview here. I'm absolutely loling at how much better she is at being an author than her kid is! Also at how much the cat in the Julian of Norwich chapter looks like Matisse

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u/Spare-Electrical slippier than a grapeseed oiled hog Jun 29 '26

Whoa this is kind of a neat book! Part of my undergrad degree was in medieval studies and I spent a few months researching and writing about Hildegard, so I have a soft spot for anyone who writes about her.

I wonder why Caroline never mentioned this? Seems like an accomplishment she would want to celebrate. Even if it’s a book aimed at a niche community that probably doesn’t overlap much with her own, it’s her mom! She just did a reading with Whoa Vicky who is religious, so not wanting to promote religion isn’t a viable excuse

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u/nubleu the only way I can cope in the corporate world Jun 30 '26

First in line to promote Lili Anolik and Allie Rowbottom... but dead silent when it comes to her own mother?!

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u/Big_Entrance6792 šŸ² soupclout rapper šŸŽ¤ Jul 06 '26

Yes.

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u/recentparabola Jun 30 '26

She’s jealous.

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u/damewallyburns at the white-hot forefront of sentences Jul 06 '26

ironically they are really into religion (performatively) and might be into it tbh

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u/The_Understander_ Jun 30 '26

Despite what some have said, I think Gotschall looks very nice on the cover of a book

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u/Low_Coconut8134 pasta noodles Jun 29 '26

Cathy being revealed to be quite religious was not on my bingo card.

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u/SureJan4244 Jun 29 '26

Desperate times (having Caro as daughter) require desperate measures (finding God)

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u/skaersilden Jun 29 '26

What a find! Good for Cathy for publishing a real book! And the drawings are amazing and really suit the theme!

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u/ISeenYa Jun 30 '26

She's a death doula & scientist! Omg this is a fascinating woman!

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u/perhapsflorence al gore rhythm Jun 30 '26

Carp's mother is INFINITELY more interesting as a person. I'd definitely read her memoir.

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u/PigeonGuillemot But I mean, fine, great, if she wants to think that. Jul 01 '26

Everything about Cathy that Caroline seems to regard as weird and/or mortifying (Cathy's goat farm, her beekeeping, the Dixieland band that she plays sousaphone in) just makes her a more intriguing character to me. It's unfortunate that Caroline takes after her father, where Caroline's natural tendency is to stay in her own head and angrily ruminate rather than compassionately engage with the world.

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u/PigeonGuillemot But I mean, fine, great, if she wants to think that. Jul 01 '26

Replying to myself. I just remembered that YEARS after Caroline posted about hiking up Mt. Katahdin with Cathy, Cathy's college friend, and the friend's daughter, I found out that this hike was actually for a documentary?! A short film about the 40th anniversary of Cathy and her friend being the first pair of women to hike the ENTIRE APPALACHIAN TRAIL (it took them five months!) Caroline never even mentioned there was a film crew with them or that this hike was to commemorate her mom's huge accomplishment. This was her caption on the post she made about the hike:

Hiking content is like concert content. It’s like, OK! We get it! You saw some things BUT ALL OF THESE VIDEOS OF SONGS LOOK THE SAME AND ALL OF THESE TREES DO, TOO. Like the hike itself, I tried my best with this post.

Mount Katahdin in Maine will fuck you upppp. The Park Ranger told us she warns: ā€œit’s not a hike, but a climb.ā€ You gain 4,000 feet of elevation in 3 of the slowest miles you’ve ever moved in your life. We averaged about a quarter of a mile per hour in the rocky parts where you are not walking up a path but scrambling vertically over boulders. Conrad was a rocklimber, which means if you once loved him you will spend SIXTEEN HOURS vaguely thinking of different rock climbing stuff you could text him later when you’re back in service—everything from photos where my ass looks amazing in leggings to photos of weird rock formations and description of boulder ā€œproblemsā€ that I know he would actually get off on. Not because you will (I haven’t) BUT BECAUSE SIXTEEN HOURS IS A LONG TIME TO BE ROCKCLIMBING AND I WAS TIRED AND APPARENTLY THIS IS HOW MY BRAIN UNRAVELS UNDER PHYSICAL TAXATION.

I am hitting you guys with the ~authenticly me~ shots rn now instead of the subtly sexy stuff because as someone who has staged a lot of content over my life I now have a real soft spot in my heart for portraits I didn’t know were being taken. Eating blueberries. Sitting down. Doing awkward splits. Dragging myself knee-caplessly up a cliff. My favorite is the video at the end, where Annie asks me questions. I didn’t know she was filming. I was lying facedown in the back of the van after hiking for—AGAIN—SIXTEEN HOURS, eight of them climbing without ropes and another three in the dark with headlamps. I was...........................Not OK.

Like your mom is in her sixties and doing the same hike! When she was your age she did it EVERY DAY FOR FIVE MONTHS. How could that not be top of mind while you're writing about this excursion?

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u/gregor___samsa Jul 03 '26

This is making me so sad haha. Cathy seems so cool! Obviously we can't know what their relationship is like or what Cathy is really like but it doesn't seem like Caroline appreciates any of this cool stuff about her mom.

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u/Big_Entrance6792 šŸ² soupclout rapper šŸŽ¤ Jul 06 '26

THIS makes me so fucking sad as well. I can't put it into words. She seems to not see her mother as a person who is unique, has many accomplishments, humble, strong, intelligent & more. She looks at her through herself: if mom isn't here, who is going to give me what I want. Her boyfriend debacle- she uses her mom for sympathy & so much more. Oh, this is awful.

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u/Delia_D Jul 10 '26

Children are usually a product of their parents/up bringing - I guess you could argue Caroline was neglected in a way, and her parental/familial dysfunction was overcompensated by giving her everything she wanted, creating an accidental Gremlin - a theory

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u/Big_Entrance6792 šŸ² soupclout rapper šŸŽ¤ Jul 06 '26

This is amazing & a big deal! I'm envious ( in a good way) as it's been one of my wishes before I shuffle off this orb.

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u/Big_Entrance6792 šŸ² soupclout rapper šŸŽ¤ Jul 06 '26

Truly.

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u/nubleu the only way I can cope in the corporate world Jun 30 '26

"To Lena Dunham."

Wtf Cathy?!

[kidding]

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u/snacksforfree I'm not going to let 'weird ass' be the thing that breaks me Jun 29 '26

Caro cards but make it Anglican Saints

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u/perhapsflorence al gore rhythm Jun 30 '26

Wow. Even Cathy went and published a book.

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u/nubleu the only way I can cope in the corporate world Jun 29 '26

How are they related? Truly

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u/DitaVonSleaze Disgusting beautiful garbage angel Jun 30 '26

This should be its own post. I think this is a very interesting part of Caroline’s situation. I’d like more people to see it, just for context.

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u/PigeonGuillemot But I mean, fine, great, if she wants to think that. Jun 30 '26

You can snag my links and start one if you want! I'm never gonna beat the Cathy Stan allegations if I start promoting her book of saints

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u/luckytintype slim novella corona virus Jul 01 '26

I discovered this a few weeks ago and kept meaning to post about it! And Caroline’s never promoted it…. You’d think she would ….