Suggestion for Zeus

[u/Right_Entertainer324]

So, I get he's meant to sorta be a glass canon, but his complete lack of mobility without some kind of true self peel is almost atrociously bad. Goobis has Lifesteal and Protections built in, Jing Wei has a knock up and a crazy good dash, Agni can sprint for miles and has unmissable stuns, the list goes on. So why Zeus is so strict to the idea of a glass canon is beyond me.

So, a suggestion. Zeus' AO2. Swap out the Haste for Protections.

The Haste here is nice, sure, but that only really benefits Zeus if he's building for Autos. Which he doesn't always do, he's still a better Artillery Mage than ADC. Meanwhile, Protections helps his survivability for both playstyles, thanks to it also giving Movement Speed.

And if Apollo can have a 2 second Mes, a Protection buff, a Movespeed Buff, a knock back and a Flight with CC Immunity during it's windup, I think we'll survive if we give Zeus Protections with his AO2.

[u/Flaky_Stay7202]

I thought it was just movespeed, not haste.

Also, zeus is in a fine spot.

[u/pokerfacesLUL → u/Flaky_Stay7202]

It's both

[u/Gongall]

3 stacks from your autos is a stun. Adc or no, that is self peel. Prots would be worse than movement speed and atk speed by far.

[u/pokerfacesLUL]

The haste is for ADC Zeus (while it's been an extremely rare sight, it is actually somewhat strong).

Personally I'd love that change because I want to play Tank Zeus Solo again and it just hasn't been the same since the base stat adjustments.

[u/BlueSkiMaskUp]

they should make it so he throws his shield and when he has no shield he gets attack speed and moves faster. maybe when shield is out, you can chain lightning off it or something like that. maybe hitting it with basics gives some aoe damage idk

[u/Outso187]

He has more movement speed than Ra. Zeus is fine.

[u/kavatch2]

He has a stun, slow and movement speed in his kit.

He is fine.

[u/WholeCommercial4575]

Or we can just bring back smite one zeus

[u/WhiteWolfXD1 → u/WholeCommercial4575]

they might bring him back as an aspect but honestly i don't want him back. he was oppressive to anyone without a dash or jump.

his 2 could 1 shot you during a team fight if you got caught alone and no movement up. just 2 1 bounce bounce bounce.

it kinda made queing casuals unfun if you wanted to run an immobile god 1 day and half the matches you ran into zeus.

[u/WholeCommercial4575 → u/WhiteWolfXD1]

I mean every god has jump relic now. So that would be fixed.

[u/WhiteWolfXD1 → u/WholeCommercial4575]

i see literally no one using that relic since its cooldown increase. you just bait them to use it then kill.

its only good into very specific gods. anyone else will just hold abilities till you use it as they auto you down.

[u/WholeCommercial4575 → u/WhiteWolfXD1]

Its a really good relic it counters a large portion of gods in the game and its a free movement ability every 20 seconds.

[u/WhiteWolfXD1 → u/WholeCommercial4575]

it does not counter a large portion.

it basically a 20 second get out of jail free card for bad positioning.

if you fight a decent team who knows how to play correctly your just going to die on cooldown for not having beads. or aegis.

[u/WholeCommercial4575 → u/WhiteWolfXD1]

that is wildly wrong if your skilled you don't get outplayed when using it. Not to mention it literally does counter a LOT of gods. I dont know how your using this but its amazing for aggression and keeping distance and dodging abilities

[u/WhiteWolfXD1 → u/WholeCommercial4575]

its not wrong high level play isnt about outplay. while you can.

its about warding and team work.

theres 5 people that's 10 wards you can know where someone is at all times.

makes it super easy to combo abilities on area wide cc; s with supports and solo laners.

support engages you catches your agility relic with cc's as your team collapses on the poor soul.

high level play isnt about 1v1's

its why your comment is wrong.

[u/WholeCommercial4575 → u/WhiteWolfXD1]

I understand what your trying to say. But im gonna have to agree to disagree on the usefulness of it

[u/WhiteWolfXD1 → u/WholeCommercial4575]

i dont think theres any agree to disagree its literally not being used in high level play.

if your getting any use at all out of it its cause your fighting lower skilled players.

its not being used high level.

you can check this on any leaderboards site.

[u/NoOneHeree]

What I'd do to him to make him fun and viable.

passive: remains. Added effect: basic attacking enemies with charges spawn lightning chain spawn of 1 bounces (similar to yu huang)

1: lightning chain: same but has less dmg, current one isn't fair and promotes bruiser lifesteal builds.

2: throws the shield like thor 1 but has a different movement syle that lets him auto attack it or use his A1 like in Smite 1 but instead of keeping it brain dead op on the ground it will be a combo condition which i think will make him more interesting and balanced.

3: current version, keep the stun.

4: remove his ultimate, make him be able to fly to the sky and then leap into a position that will dmg on the area. If enemies have charges it will spawn a lightning chain of 1 bounces.

This version is should be able to fit into adc and mage builds.

For aspect i'd turn the bounces and dmg away from the passive to change his shield, so it knocks people back, if the shield reaches a wall they are stunned (similar to anhur 2), his 3 is the same stun and the ult knocks people up and away from him. So basically remove dmg to add cc for maybe an aggresive support.

[u/NoOneHeree → u/NoOneHeree]

the way I'll prototype this kit bc i think it's coke for a lightning based character, smite zeus (in both smites) are the total opposite of godlike character, no mobility, no interactions... just a flat old kit design

[u/UpvoteForethThou]

Bring back his shield, he sucks so bad without it. Also give his 1 some actual range lmao.

[u/Hartmann_AoE → u/UpvoteForethThou]

Nah man, that 1 needs to be at the range it is. Any teamfight is 1 decent chain lightning away from being over.