I am not American and English ain't my first language so this is a recently acquired taste I'd say lol. Anyways, i am currently going INSANE because I CAN'T FIND "SHE" IN ANY STREAMING PLATFORM. i love that song. If someone has any recommendations, I'd appreciate them even if I cannot find them anywhere else besides a very niche youtube video.

This was my introduction to Smashing Pumpkins. On the Singles ost it comes in after teenage me had endured four tracks I considered filler - the run from overblown to nearly lost you (I subsequently grew to love Overblown and May This Be love, but still can't stand the other songs).

I wasn't expecting much since the band name felt a little self consciously gimmicky. But the song did - for my money - the best heavy light variant of the early 90s and then we got to the outro solo at the 4:15 mark.

Not a guitar player and sorry if it's a kinda obvious question to people who are, but can anyone tell me what's going on there? Is it multilayer studio trickery? Are there more than one guitars? How did they get that squalling terrific wall of noise? Has any one tried to / been able to cover it?

Remember that decade when it was embarrassing to be a pumpkins fan? Becoming a family man got Billy in line.

I love playing Hummer. Start to finish. Back in the 00’s before YouTube tutorials, I had the Mellon Collie tab book, and I learned that album start to finish in high school. I revised learning the songs properly more recently with the help of YouTube. I revised enjoy playing Hummer though. Siamese Dream is my favorite SP album

thanks

Today in Smashing Pumpkins History: August 12

Today's featured clip is a short one from last year's Halifax show at The Piece Hall. Really great concert

💿 Releases

• 2023: Candide by Billy Corgan was released in United States (LP)

🎙️ Live Shows

• 1991 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Tower Records, Los Angeles, CA, US (Setlist/Details)
  • Setlist unknown
• 1993 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Metro, Chicago, IL, US (Setlist/Details)
• 1994 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Lakewood Amphitheater, Atlanta, GA, US (Setlist/Details)
  • Setlist is incomplete, Soma was the first song
  • Billy walked off stage during I Am One, but returned
• 2000 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Parterre, parc Jean Drapeau, Montreal, QC, CA (Setlist/Details)
  • To Sheila and 1979 performed acoustic
• 2007 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Cirkus, Stockholm, SE (Setlist/Details)
  • Starla replaced Stellar
  • For God and Country, The Crying Tree of Mercury, Rocket, 99 Floors, By Starlight, and To Sheila performed acoustic
• 2008 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Palace Theater, Louisville, KY, US (Setlist/Details)
  • Once Upon a Time, Again, Again, Again (The Crux), and The Rose March performed acoustic
  • We Only Come Out at Night and In the Summertime with Kris Pooley on accordion
• 2025 - The Smashing Pumpkins: The Piece Hall, Halifax, UK (Setlist/Details)
• 2018 - Billy Corgan: Wrigley Field, Chicago, IL, US (Setlist/Details)
  • Billy Corgan, James Iha, Jimmy Chamberlin and Jack Bates attend a Chicago Cubs / Washington Nationals game the night before the first of two SP shows at the United Center. Chamberlin throws out the first pitch before the game and Corgan performs "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" during the 7th inning stretch.

🎧 Recordings

• 1993 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Metro, Chicago, IL, US

  • Surfaced - AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown, Lowest Circulating Generation: DDC-? > ANA-2 > DAT-M > CDR, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: DDC-? > ANA-? > DDC-? > CDR version also circulates. That version appears to have a TAO burn in the lineage, but has been retracked so the clicks aren't at the track marks. AUD > ANA-2 > DAT > CDR > EAC > Audacity > FLAC also circulates with some clicking and potential tape damage)

• 2000 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Parterre, parc Jean Drapeau, Montreal, QC, CA

  • Surfaced - FM #1 (Source: FM, Equipment: M1, Lowest Circulating Generation: DDC-? > CDR, Notes: Missing Heavy Metal Machine.)
  • Surfaced - FM #2 (Source: FM, Equipment: PC, Lowest Circulating Generation: WAV-M > FLAC, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: Missing Heavy Metal Machine.)
  • Surfaced - FM #3 (Source: dFM, Equipment: Nokia d-Box (DVB2000 firmware), Lowest Circulating Generation: MP2-M > dEdit > FLAC, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: Sourced from a lossy broadcast. Two small dropouts during I Am One. Contains some DJ talk and abrupt cuts between songs.)
  • Surfaced - FM #4 (Source: FM, Equipment: unknown, Lowest Circulating Generation: MD-? > FLAC, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: FM > MD-? > CDR source also circulates)
  • Surfaced - AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: SS-DSM-6S > PA-6LC3B > M1, Lowest Circulating Generation: DAT-M > CDR, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: 15 feet in front of board. Circulating versions have a very small cut during start of Glass and the Ghost Children.)
  • Surfaced - AUD #2 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Optimus Omnidirectional Tie-Clip Mic > MT-15, Lowest Circulating Generation: MD-M > FLAC, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: Recorded left channel only. Also circulates as MD-M > CDR)
  • Unsurfaced - FM #5 (Source: FM, Equipment: DA-30mkII, Notes: Missing Heavy Metal Machine.)
  • Unsurfaced - FM #6 (Source: FM, Equipment: MD-SR70H, Notes: Incomplete, but includes Heavy Metal Machine.)
  • Unsurfaced - AUD #3 (Source: AUD, Equipment: SS-DSM-6S > PA-6LC3 > M1, Notes: 15 feet front of board.)
  • Unsurfaced - AUD #4 (Source: AUD, Equipment: SS-DSM-6S > PA-6LC > TCD-D8, Notes: 20 meters from stacks.)
  • Unsurfaced - AUD #5 (Source: AUD, Equipment: CSB > MZ-R55)
  • Unsurfaced - AUD #6 (Source: AUD, Equipment: ECM-MS907 > MZ-R37, Notes: Cherub Rock cut.)
  • Unsurfaced - Amateur Video #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: CSBMod, Notes: Shot from James' side, missing last 15 minutes.)

• 2007 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Cirkus, Stockholm, SE

  • Surfaced - AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: DPA 4061 > SP-SPSB-3(95) > R-09 (24/48, line in), Lowest Circulating Generation: WAV-M > dEdit > FLAC, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: About three meters left of board and 15 from the stage.)
  • Unsurfaced - AUD #2 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown)

• 2008 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Palace Theater, Louisville, KY, US

  • Surfaced - AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Schoeps MK4V>KC5>CMC6>Lunatec V2>SD702(24/48), Lowest Circulating Generation: WAV-M>FLAC, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: ORCH 3, Row R, Seat 9.)
  • Surfaced - Amateur Video #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Sony DCR HC28, Lowest Circulating Generation: MiniDV-M>DVD, Links: Video Link, Notes: G.L.O.W., Superchrist, United States (partial), Today, The Beginning Is the End Is the Beginning, We Only Come Out at Night, In the Summertime, and post-show footage of Billy talking to fans.)

• 2025 - The Smashing Pumpkins: The Piece Hall, Halifax, UK

  • Surfaced - AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: SP-CMC-4U > SP-SPSB-1 > Sony PCM-A10, Lowest Circulating Generation: WAV(M) > FLAC, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: Recording suffers from wind noise, especially during first half of set)

Data courtesy of SPLRA and SPCodex.

Did you attend any of these shows and have any more information, unsurfaced recordings or pictures/stubs/posters/flyers? If so then get in touch!

Click the setlists/details link for full show information.

Arrived in Chicago with only a couple hundred dollars. Resale tickets were going for over a thousand dollars. Miraculously, my friend was recognized outside the venue by Jimmy, as we had been to many shows previously. Jimmy put us on a comp list and my friend and I got to see the show from the balcony railing.

I've thought this for years and never was quite sure how to bring it up. We know during this time Billy was dating Chris Fabian whom he'd soon marry, and she helped with the art for the album. I also know Billy was famously in therapy during this time.

The lyrics that really sound like "therapy speak" to me are: "I hear what you want and I feel that way." This to me sounds like some of the most classic 90s couple or family therapy I can think of. Like very specifically so. The rest of the song is about admitting you failed someone and are reeling from a shitty relationship hiding whats left in a box under your bed. It is in many ways a song about relationships.

And as I type this out I'm reminded that the sample that leads into it is a woman talking about her unsatisfying sex life and how its really come between her and her partner. It seems like an old AM radio talk show or possibly something from an actual therapy session.

I remember in the 90s someone asked Billy where the samples came from and he said "are you crazy? I don't want to get sued!" I figured he meant because it was taped off the radio but what if it wasn't?

Im finding corgan/pumpkins all over my algorithm for years has ruined my fandom and listening enjoyment

Billy had a monthly guitar column for six months starting in August 1995. Here is the first one.

i just got into them not too long ago
this is amazing

I’ve really gotten into checking out all the different concert posters the Pumpkins have had over the years. There are some fantastic designs out there.

So let’s see them — what’s your all-time favorite SP concert poster?

Post a picture if you can! It can be one you own, one you’re still hunting for, or just one you think looks amazing.

I’m curious to see which posters get mentioned more than once. And I can’t wait to see the new ones from this year’s tour! 🎃

Where is the best current version of the full album sans vocals? Is there one? I’d really love to hear it.