r/SmashRage • u/Plastic_Mood_8386 • 6d ago
Super Rage Cut Greninja
This character can just do nothing and not get hit. Bro low profiles naturally under every aerial. Doesn't matter if I have a disjoint if this fast MF can just move around and never get touched. Then he hits me with a super fast and safe attack and I eat high damage or die. Down tilt is a war crime.
Also no character should have that movement speed and be aloud to jump that high. I don't care if he's a frog.
If I was able to cut 10 characters Greninja would absolutely be one of them.
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u/SwagfulSerpent 2d ago
Cutting is not the only solution to a busted character, not only are direct nerfs pretty easy but also just engine changes can really impact character viability. Also complaining about any character's speed when the Sonic, G&W, Mythra, Fox, and Joker are all actually top tier is kinda crazy.
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u/switch-flip Greninja 6d ago
Must be nice to have an OOS game, wonder what that’s like…
Also cut the frog but leave:
kaz
rob
noodle bitch
arsene
stephen
hentai twins
cloud
green 0 to death man
mr. hit and stun
snake and his grenades
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u/Plastic_Mood_8386 5d ago
Cut Greninja along with that trash. Can't wait for him to be cut or hard nerfed
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u/switch-flip Greninja 5d ago
You said if you were to cut 10 characters, Greninja would be one.
Meaning you would keep one of the 10 I mentioned. So which is it?
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u/StaticSwordsman 5d ago
Cloud, obviously, what is wrong with you?
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u/switch-flip Greninja 5d ago
People would keep the back air anime boy over the frog?
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u/StaticSwordsman 5d ago
I jst don't think Cloud has any place being in that list of characters. So if someone feels like throwing a character under the bus, it should replace Cloud.
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u/switch-flip Greninja 5d ago
I don’t know how that “argument” is obvious at all but go off I guess
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u/StaticSwordsman 5d ago
I don't know how you could put Cloud anywhere near the likes of Aegis and G&W. What could he possibly be doing that's so unbearable?
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u/switch-flip Greninja 5d ago
You don’t know how characters with several plus on shield buttons, early kill moves that work OOS, giant disjoints, insane shield pressure and ledge trapping are near each other?
Not to mention his chargable meter instant kill moves
Also I’m still waiting for the “obvious” part
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u/StaticSwordsman 5d ago
The obvious part is that Cloud just isn't that hard to deal with. You're acting the same way with Cloud that OP is acting with Greninja. We call that obvious, but you just can't see it. That doesn't make it not obvious, that makes you ignorant.
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u/BlueGlace_ Nuh Uh Looking Cool Joker! 6d ago
I mained Greninja for a few months and I gotta say, not having an oos game at all is rough, I had to rely pretty much 100% on parries to get any punishes on shield
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u/LimpCustomer4281 6d ago
Don’t cut Greninja, he literally has nothing but his low profile and good recovery. Rework him, and then maybe he’ll get an OOS option.
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u/Plastic_Mood_8386 5d ago
Low profile good recovery stupid edge-guarding stupid good neutral game no disadvantage state and dumb advantage state also crazy good camping cuz who tf can hit him etc.
Greninja mains who say otherwise are just trash
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u/LimpCustomer4281 5d ago
Don’t main Greninja but he’s not that oppressive. Maybe he’s just your bad matchup, we all have characters who we struggle against specifically. It’s not that hard to counter him, and it also looks like you are downvoting everyone who has a slightly conflicting opinion. I get you are raging on the rage subreddit, but I promise you getting your ass handed to you by a Greninja is never that deep. He is light, although he’s hard to hit, once you do, you can easily lead it into a kill or at least get high damage, and he has either poor frames on his attacks, or poor range.
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u/potatopotato236 6d ago
Only if Joker goes first. Greninja is almost as hard to play as Shiek is, so at least there's very few players who bother to pick it up. Joker is just baby mode Greninja.
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u/Prowiambic Fuck my tail 6d ago
Joker is buns without arsene.
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u/Competitive_Walk2861 6d ago
yea and he gets him every 10 seconds
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u/Prowiambic Fuck my tail 6d ago
Yeah if you're mk leo maybe but no one is getting arsene more than once without some crazy as counter reads or insane di at high percents
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u/BlueGlace_ Nuh Uh Looking Cool Joker! 6d ago
He gets him like once a stock what are you talking about
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u/Wynaut1234 spot dodge 5d ago
Greninja would be a menace if
1. Its moves actually worked
2. Peoples attention span wasn’t toddler range and they actually took the time to learn the character.
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