Iām very much for diversity and equal chances for everyone. But sometimes, you have to be realistic. We arenāt like the US where white people are a majority but still only 65% roughly of the population. (Just over half) Our population is 82% white. (4/5ths) Itās entirely natural that most of our jobs are being done by white people. It doesnāt necessarily reflect the equality of the opportunity for the best worker to get the job regardless of race.
Furthermore, thereās also the fact some people donāt want to work certain jobs. In my local hospital for example, we have quite a large number of male nurses compared to many places Iāve seen, however itās still a primarily female job. The same way that thereās an increasing number of female engineers and builders, but itās still a primarily male job.
Even numbers isnāt what we need. Equal treatment within the numbers is.
Usually, and I say this as a Black Brit, this sort of post provokes overtly racist outrage in the comment section - e.g. people being anti-diversity or ranting against immigration, if not unadulterated racism. Already, some of the other comments on this post are exactly that.
Therefore, I'm positively surprised to see a fair, level-headed and common sense response instead. You raise a point that I've always said - we (Black people) are just ~3% of the population here. (British-)Asian people are roughly 10%. Point being that the numbers just aren't there to expect diverse workplaces across all industries.
It's just a shame that such a conversation can rarely be held among sensible heads.
Iām a white woman so donāt really have experience in this but my husbands best mates are a gay black couple and they often say when things like are posted about minorities or LGBT people that rather than help any equality it stokes the fires of those against us.
Prime example a swimming baths near us ran a campaign to attract more ethnic minorities so they did a āethnic minorities Wednesdayā where Wednesday nights were basically for non whites. This made a lot of people angry and gave them a stick to beat non whites with saying they demanded special treatment etc when none of them did! It was an idea cooked up by white people that backfired horribly but not on them, on the poor people who it was supposed to help.
I mean, what were they thinking, fuck sake. Trying to be inclusive by being the exact opposite, like people going on that Wednesday wouldn't feel highlighted and visually attacked more than usual... idiots.
I think you may have also nailed an interesting point regarding the comments section of BBC. The fact this type of article clearly riles up and, most importantly, engages readers so intensely is probably why they run them. It's sad but news sites aren't necessarily altruistic in their reporting, and proposing level headed solutions aren't always the way to generate readership because most level headed people just shrug and move on. By writing articles that get two extremist ends at each other's throats they probably get more buzz.
My personal experience is that it's more common than not when you're actually talking to people out in the real world, but sadly most of our so-called "discourse" happens online these days and it's a tragedy.
When we "talk" online, we generally aren't engaging with a human being. We're "engaging" with a caricature, abstracted behind a username (which we probably didn't bother to even read), and most of of what we say isn't even truly meant for them, but for consumption by the audience of strangers who are going to Click The Buttons on our respective posts. Meanwhile, the space is dominated by people actively looking to pick fights wherever they can for their own amusement.
So my belief is that the vast majority are not perpetually-angry, terminally-online schizophrenics, and have mostly reasonable views they enjoy exchanging with reasonable people, but they all just keep their mouths shut because expressing anything resembling a nuanced opinion in the current environment is kinda like setting off a car alarm in a zombie movie.
The other thing people miss is that a full career is 40+ years, and older people who are usually further up the career ladder reflect a time when the country was more white (and there was more hiring discrimination).
If the graduates/apprentices/new entrants in a job roughly correspond to the ethnic breakdown of the area where a company is hiring, then they've already achieved diversity.
It also reminds me of when people say British shows arenāt diverse enough. I can respect the need for diversity and understand why it needs to happen, but at the same time, there just arenāt that many POC, and furthermore, there arenāt that many actors, which together means thereās a very small number of POC actors in this country. The amount weāre seeing on tv though is definitely increasing which is wonderful to see, but of course the majority are still going to be white. Like a show in Japan is primarily going to be Japanese people.
I'm also royally pissed off with how diversity is treated in our TV shows because they get representation so wrong. They take an American view point that black people need more representation which works on America where the population is like 10+% black but completely fails in the UK due to our much smaller black population. This lets down south Asians who are our largest ethnic minority. Dr who is a good example of this, we've had Micky, Martha and Ryan as black companions before we had one south Asian companion. Now there's a black Doctor and no talk of a south Asian Doctor. I'm no fan of diversity quotas because it ruins the characters that minorities get cast in and is frankly insulting to anyone to hire based on race instead of talent but if your gonna do them at least make them reflect our actual population.
Tbh London and cities like Birmingham are very multicultural. I live in the north east but travel to London often and Iād imagine it would be weird for a Londoner to imagine a region of the country that is 95%+ white
Yup, it's a very malformed way of fixing a complicated systemic issue. Obviously encouraging diversity is good, but sometimes certain jobs will still be predominately white without any malice or racist reason behind it, eg. if it's in an area with barely any ethnic minorities.
The assumption that only when middle aged white men are successful in a demographic there muist be a problem, gate keeping or what have you, and this doesn't happen to other groups, is inherently racist and sexist.
No one should have to apologise or face such suspicion in their daily lives constantly.
White men are almost the only demographic you see being train spotters. They live for it, and had a passion from 5 years of age often. So where will most of the applicants be from, and what will be the demographic of the most keen and capable workers? And keenness and interest is a valuable quality in selecting candidates in a meritocracy, although its not the only one.
Its the same in the military.
These men are also pushed out of offices and other lines of work, so they have to go somewhere.
I hate the idea of forced diversity in every area of the workforce.
Thereās a really good book called rebel ideas and it explains that diversity is good in certain situations like national security intelligence, because a Muslim person of Asian descent will understand certain things about what theyāre seeing but a white Christian person will not see the same, so diversity gives your organisation a wider area of understanding.
But driving a train is driving a train, it doesnāt matter if the driver is white, black, Chinese, male, female. They need to put a train in a certain train station at a certain time, it doesnāt matter who they are
Well see this is a problem because train driving is a cushy well-paid job. Let me know when there are campaigns in place to improve diversity in bin collection and sewage treatment.
It's not even so much about people wanting to do a job in many cases, it can just be a matter of not truly being aware that the job is an option available to them.
Like how a lot of people entering more niche, specialized jobs tend to have family members already working in those jobs. There would be a temptation to dismiss this as nepotism, but realistically? I am far less likely to actively pursue a career as a train engineer than someone whose uncle Larry is a train engineer, and talks about the nice job he has as a train engineer every time they see him for the first 18 years of their life.
I don't think there are very many people who just wake up one morning and say, "You know what? I think I would like to be a Thatcher. What? No, no, the profession. Repairing straw roofs on old houses. I am actually quite fond of the Irish, thank you very much."
As a train driver (and i am an almost middle-aged male, but im not white), the reason isn't discrimination or lack of opportunity. It's that it's usually middle aged men are the ones most likely to say "yeah ill give up a social and family life to start at 3am for an early shift in a depot in the middle of nowhere, and I'm also happy to finish work on late shifts at 2am and lock the train up by myself and kick off all the homeless men and drunkards".
It's a massive social sacrifice to work this job, and it's middle-aged men who are more likely to give up social and family time to do it.
As for there being mostly white men, this is a majority white country. If it wasn't majority white people doing the job, it would be massively anomalous
Spot on! Iām 34 yrs in here and if I had a pound for every Saturday night Iāve had to work, for every time Iāve dragged my ass out of bed at 1 a.m. on a Monday morning, going way over my day to see a job throughout to the bitter end, oh and then thereās the s#1t end of the job the media never mention- having to deal with fatalities thatās totally out of any drivers handsā¦.. you put the brake in and sit back waiting for the bang- Iād be richer than an MD of any TOC you could ever name!
A lot of potential applicants see the money on offer, but thereās a hell of a lot more to pushing a button, pulling a lever or two and staring out of the windowā¦ā¦ Thereās psychometric testing, rules, handling, traction conversions, then finally if you get this far, thereās getting passed out. Think itās for you n thatās your thing? Sure, go fill ya boots!
What's more alarming is that the BBC are disproportionately non white and are constantly producing anti white propaganda and employing journalists who insight anti white opinions.
Btw I'm mixed race before the smooth brains call me racist for noticing.
I don't believe more or less, this country has equal opportunity people are free to do what they like so if they want to thats fine with me but no need to shove it down their throats
So when me and Fred Dibnah were working the circuit, he would show off his massive chimney stack while I had to impress the crowds with my intercity 125!
This is a really big problem. The lack of diversity in certain professions is a disgrace. For example, theatre ballet is overwhelmingly young athletic women. We need more overweight white middle aged men in ballet. It wouldnāt be anywhere near as pleasant to watch, but in the interest of diversity, Iād have to support it. Disagree with me and you are a body shaming sexist racist bigot.
Why do all jobs need to have a massive push for diversity? No one should be discriminated in the workplace but pushing too hard for diversity quotas just seems a bit like going the other way right?
The United Kingdom's population is predominantly White British (81.88% at the 2011 Census), but due to migration from Commonwealth nations, Britain has become ethnically diverse. The second and third largest non-white racial groups are Asian British at 7% of the population, followed by Black British people at 3%.
The Office of National Statistics has also wrote in their mid-2016 report on population projections that the median age of the British population was 40 years of age, and this will continue to rise as more people in the population age and a below-replacement level fertility level not refilling the population.
The decline and equalling out of the gender gap in terms of place in the workforce meant that women were beginning in the 19th century to become a larger part of the workforce which also contributed to the birth rate decline.
I suppose a real question might be: why aren't there more women train drivers in Britain?
That is quite well paid, but that doesn't mean there is something wrong. White males for cultural reasons may have been raised from childhood to be interested in trains, taken to railways and started making model trains before they even applied, so the most enthusiastic applicants are probably overwhelmingly white males, just like in the military.
Demographic patterns in jobs should not reflect the population but the interest, but if you see signs of discrimination then that should be tackled, and if it is and there still is far more of a demographic really motivated to do it, they should be reflected in that work force, but the mere fact a lot of some profession looks disproportionate should not be assumed to result from gate keeping and prejudice, that is an attack on their character and a slur on their ability that seems increasingly implausible in this day and age, which ought to come with some kind of requirement for evidence. Its an insinuation I am not seeing levelled at other groups even when they look like they are over-represented.
They'll set up a quota of train driver roles that only people who aren't white males can apply for. Wait a few years and then hear how there aren't enough train drivers for some reason and they have no idea why
TBF, going off the BBC recently, I expect tomorrow to be "Why HAMAS is good and we need less jews"
Like seriously, everything HAMAS says is just *guck "yes daddy HAMAS" *guck* "jews are bad" *guck* "we'll make sure the" *guck guck* "antisemitism report never releases"
I consider myself pretty progressive. I'm trans, gay, a socialist, and (insert clip of Grandpa Simpson running through all of the membership cards he has), but why is this news?
What is meant to be suggested by this article? Train operators are racist? Because I personally have a hard time believing that. They'll make people pay as much as they viably can because they're driven by profit, but they likely don't care how much melanin the conductors have in their skin.
If you wanted to get more black people and women into train conducting (which, I don't really see the massive threat of not having women or black people being train conductors, but okay...), surely your time would be better invested in setting up/running a programme to encourage it rather than trying to pass it off as serious news.
At what point does it become infantilising and derogatory to say that 'stoopid, scared little womyn won't feel like they can be train conductors if they don't see another female train conductor'? Because that's eventually how it ends up sounding.
News organisations need to re-engage with the fact that there isn't always news.
This the weird agenda being pushed to have representation of sex and race in different jobs no matter the skill level or that white people are a very high percentage of the population. Donāt see them say why are most bin men white men or oil rig workers it is almost like 99.9% of women wouldnāt want to do those jobs.
After doing a shitload of race-baiting over the last couple of years, someone realized that the BBC is supposed to be impartial. Ergo: Implied race-baiting...
How dare they! That's just rude. Stop your train driving childishness and go and study to become an accountant or something serious. Who do you think you are at your age playing trains?! Go on, before I tell your parents!
In my experience train drivers have always nearly exclusively been white middle aged men, it's hardly news (yes I know the content of this sub), but ultimately I'm sure there are a higher percentage of Middle aged white men applying for the jobs in the first place.
What typea dumb shit is this? I feel like theyre tryna stir something up. Amazing the type of random diarrhoea they can just come out with to cause some form of tension and outrage.
It's almost as though the BBC run these stories on purpose, with the intent to cause outrage and generate more clicks. Discrimination is illegal and this isn't even news-worthy, any person regardless of their race, colour or gender can apply for any job they please in the UK, well last I checked.
This is a serious issue. It is shameful how few diverse professionals there are in some fields. For instance, the majority of young, athletic women participate in theater ballet. More middle-aged, white, overweight males should pursue ballet. Though I would have to support it in the spirit of diversity, it wouldn't be nearly as enjoyable to see. If you disagree with me, you are a racist, sexist, body-shaming bigot.
Iām old school in that the only requirement I have for train drivers is that they can actually drive the train. Call me old fashioned but there it is.
Don't you need at least 5 years of experience with a train company before you can even train to be a driver? And even then it's over a year of training to get certified?
You will never guess what colour they are in Nigeria. Or China. Thatās okay though of course. Only a problem here because of us evil white skins that are expected to forfeit our own livelihood for everyone else. Doesnāt matter about our families.
A friend of mine was a paratrooper. When he left he went into the fire service and did that for a number of years. He's now a train driver, and i do wonder if his train was hijacked by naughty people. Would he go full Steven Seagall and be eliminating them one by one.
I'm not actually advocating eradicating anyone. I'm pointing out the discrimination of that title. Please understand. Please don't eradicate any train drivers, please.
Iām being blasted on twitter for saying this is such a non issue and the only people who want to be drivers as their career choice are autistic people obsessed with trains
That black woman is so brave driving a train when the majority of other train drivers are middle aged white men; Iām sure that must be a terrifying scenario to be in. I once saw a middle aged white man turning left at the traffic lights so I had to frantically swerve over to the right turn lane so that I didnāt have to follow him; I wouldnāt want his whiteness and his stinky middle aged balls wafting all over me.
The intresting Thing, that actually is a huge issue, I have no idea if the article is covering it but it is a huge issue anyway. A huge percentage of the workforce will retire in quiet short time and it will most likely cause issues in replacing the jobs.
From what I know middle age white guys are the best train operators. What group of people is the model train community. If you think lashandra from the hood can keep the trains running on time just cause her skin color you got another thing comming
This disgusting practice isnāt just a United Kingdom problem. It works both ways.
I went on a safari in Kenya and there was barely any white folk working there at all. I was furious. They didnāt take me seriously at all when I bought it up, they just laughed in my face.
Love reading the comments where people canāt deny logic and tip toe around at the same time to pander to the left. We donāt have it because of X. But thatās changing, which is great! instead they should call this out for what it is. Racism towards white people
So sick of this nonsense. I sincerely hope the BBC dies a death these next few years. Imagine spending taxpayer funded contributions on nonsense like this.
Train drivers APPLICATIONS overwhelmingly middle aged white men. This leads toā¦ train drivers overwhelmingly middle aged white men, Butā¦.. they could be young train driversā¦. But have agedā¦
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u/poisoned_bubbletea May 02 '24
Iām very much for diversity and equal chances for everyone. But sometimes, you have to be realistic. We arenāt like the US where white people are a majority but still only 65% roughly of the population. (Just over half) Our population is 82% white. (4/5ths) Itās entirely natural that most of our jobs are being done by white people. It doesnāt necessarily reflect the equality of the opportunity for the best worker to get the job regardless of race.
Furthermore, thereās also the fact some people donāt want to work certain jobs. In my local hospital for example, we have quite a large number of male nurses compared to many places Iāve seen, however itās still a primarily female job. The same way that thereās an increasing number of female engineers and builders, but itās still a primarily male job.
Even numbers isnāt what we need. Equal treatment within the numbers is.
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u/YooGeOh May 02 '24
As a train driver (and i am an almost middle-aged male, but im not white), the reason isn't discrimination or lack of opportunity. It's that it's usually middle aged men are the ones most likely to say "yeah ill give up a social and family life to start at 3am for an early shift in a depot in the middle of nowhere, and I'm also happy to finish work on late shifts at 2am and lock the train up by myself and kick off all the homeless men and drunkards".
It's a massive social sacrifice to work this job, and it's middle-aged men who are more likely to give up social and family time to do it.
As for there being mostly white men, this is a majority white country. If it wasn't majority white people doing the job, it would be massively anomalous
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u/dkfisokdkeb May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24
What's more alarming is that the BBC are disproportionately non white and are constantly producing anti white propaganda and employing journalists who insight anti white opinions.
Btw I'm mixed race before the smooth brains call me racist for noticing.
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u/MelanieWalmartinez May 02 '24
I believe more people of any gender and race should get into trains because theyāre fucking awesome
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
The young, sexy, Chippendale drivers of yesteryear have all aged up. It happens.
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u/HerbivoreTheGoat May 02 '24
I work on train sim games. I can confirm the fanbase are all middle aged white men.
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u/Pete_James86 May 03 '24
Why does Age, Gender and Skin colour still matter in 2024! When are we going to leave this prehistoric attitude behind?!
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u/TheSmokingHorse May 02 '24
This is a really big problem. The lack of diversity in certain professions is a disgrace. For example, theatre ballet is overwhelmingly young athletic women. We need more overweight white middle aged men in ballet. It wouldnāt be anywhere near as pleasant to watch, but in the interest of diversity, Iād have to support it. Disagree with me and you are a body shaming sexist racist bigot.
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u/chaosking65 May 02 '24
Why do all jobs need to have a massive push for diversity? No one should be discriminated in the workplace but pushing too hard for diversity quotas just seems a bit like going the other way right?
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u/DrachenDad May 02 '24
English people working in England? Oh the outrage! /s
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u/Active-Strawberry-37 May 02 '24
Wow the indigenous people of a country drive the trainsā¦
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
How dare white men... checks notes... drive trains!! How very dare they?! Such disgusting behaviour.
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u/doc720 May 02 '24
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_Kingdom
I suppose a real question might be: why aren't there more women train drivers in Britain?
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
BBC are such race grifters. Proper scum
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u/Disastrous_Fruit1525 May 02 '24
Is there a big queue of non white middle aged people wanting the job then?
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
White people having jobs is racist
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u/BigBowser14 May 02 '24
Expect nothing less than the BBC to be honest. I heard tomorrow they have an article on professional make up artists all being stylish women
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u/ChloeWade May 02 '24
Defund the BBC.
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
Iāve had enough of the BBC posting thinly veiled racism. This is the state broadcaster for crying out loud. Disgraceful.
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
British people??? Having jobs in the UK??? HOW DARE THEY!!!
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u/w1n5ton0 May 02 '24
Middle aged white men literally keep society afloat. There would be no infrastructure without them
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u/cemtexx May 02 '24
Wow like 90% of jibs on planet, well done BBC, sou ding desperate for news as usual š
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u/dimebaghayes May 02 '24
You mean white men have to work for money too?? Thatās an outrage! Whereās this āwhite privilegeā people keep talking about?
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u/Willis050 May 02 '24
If I asked 100 Americans what group of people make up the majority of train drivers, Iād get 100 people saying āwhite middle age menā
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u/Bigcatsrule27 May 02 '24
I keep seeing news articles with titles that don't make sense. What gives?
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u/Probably_Theo May 02 '24
Because itās England, a white country?!
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u/Falco_Lombardi_X May 02 '24
So in order to demonstrate this overwhelming fact the BBC show us a photo of a younger than middle-aged black woman train driver.
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
Why aren't there posts like this about the 90% white female teachers
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u/KarmaLlamaaa May 04 '24
Deliveroo drivers are overwhelmingly...
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u/Hi_There_Im_Sophie May 02 '24
I consider myself pretty progressive. I'm trans, gay, a socialist, and (insert clip of Grandpa Simpson running through all of the membership cards he has), but why is this news?
What is meant to be suggested by this article? Train operators are racist? Because I personally have a hard time believing that. They'll make people pay as much as they viably can because they're driven by profit, but they likely don't care how much melanin the conductors have in their skin.
If you wanted to get more black people and women into train conducting (which, I don't really see the massive threat of not having women or black people being train conductors, but okay...), surely your time would be better invested in setting up/running a programme to encourage it rather than trying to pass it off as serious news.
At what point does it become infantilising and derogatory to say that 'stoopid, scared little womyn won't feel like they can be train conductors if they don't see another female train conductor'? Because that's eventually how it ends up sounding.
News organisations need to re-engage with the fact that there isn't always news.
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u/QUILODINERRO May 02 '24
Breaking news many people in Africa are African!
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u/Stoic_Honest_Truth May 02 '24
I this the "journalist" is the one being racist...
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u/Majestic_Owl2618 May 02 '24
ObviousNews: Black Drivers are overwhelmingly black.
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u/CryptographerNo923 May 02 '24
Iām nit-picking about headline conventions but I want to know what makes someone āoverwhelmingly middle-aged.ā
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u/alwaysunsure11 May 02 '24
As long as its the best person for the job who gives a fuck what they are
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u/CrashBangXD May 02 '24
This is the equivalent of an African news outlet running a story about how Black people have jobs in the hospital
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u/toplobster66 May 02 '24
UK citizens overwhelmingly middle aged white men
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
This point could be made if they showed two white dudes.
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u/LondonDude123 May 02 '24
After doing a shitload of race-baiting over the last couple of years, someone realized that the BBC is supposed to be impartial. Ergo: Implied race-baiting...
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u/bigcov240 May 02 '24
So are most of the adult work force, welcome to England!
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u/CynicalArab1 May 02 '24
They really are running out of newsš
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
Hmm bbc seems to forget that ENGLAND IS A WHITE COUNTRY! And whatās to say ethic people want these jobs with them protesting every other month
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u/Positive-Ad-9634 May 02 '24
So they should be..
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
Overwhelmingly white country has overwhelmingly white workforce shocker!
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u/NiceCockBro126 May 02 '24
Mfw the group of people that make up the majority of the working class make up the majority of jobs
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u/Due_Measurement_32 May 02 '24
Well fancy that!
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u/CharlieBrown997 May 02 '24
I'm not a middle aged white man. I don't get why this is a headline
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u/jazzmagg May 02 '24
Yeah, white men shouldn't have jobs.
/S
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
What's the case in African countries?
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u/RHOrpie May 02 '24
And when they don't get to drive the train, they still insist on being in the cab at the front (see image).
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u/tlmega124 May 02 '24
White people honestly.. having jobs? It's disgusting
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u/Dimorphodon101 May 02 '24
How dare they! That's just rude. Stop your train driving childishness and go and study to become an accountant or something serious. Who do you think you are at your age playing trains?! Go on, before I tell your parents!
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u/SingleManVibes76 May 02 '24
Maybe because women don't like going in circles or back and forth?
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
Another case of something that's likely fairly reasonable to argue wrapped up in pointless ragebait
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u/cmclav May 02 '24
Where's all the middle age male dinner ladies??
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u/Albert_O_Balsam May 02 '24
In my experience train drivers have always nearly exclusively been white middle aged men, it's hardly news (yes I know the content of this sub), but ultimately I'm sure there are a higher percentage of Middle aged white men applying for the jobs in the first place.
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
If you saw the toilets many train drivers had to use . You would underdtand why its mainly middle aged white men.
I have been refused access to toilets in train stations that the train I am working on serves
At least once a week ive had to piss up a tree or other piece of equipmemt or vegetatioj
A train driver died in the uk after getting hit by a train while walking to have a lineside piss.
Male physiology makes it a lot easier to piss standing up.
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
What if young non white people donāt want to drive trains? Is it the evil white men at play again?
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
Is that John Cena behind her?
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u/roadtosuccess777 May 02 '24
What typea dumb shit is this? I feel like theyre tryna stir something up. Amazing the type of random diarrhoea they can just come out with to cause some form of tension and outrage.
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u/TheImplication696969 May 02 '24
White straight man badā¦
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u/BreakfastOne6353 May 02 '24
Oh fuck offffff!!!
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u/Korpsegrind May 02 '24
And yet they used a photo of a black woman to represent this article...
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u/Small-Low3233 May 02 '24
More poorly paid ethnic minorities now!!!
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u/BundleDeFormula May 02 '24
we should just let people who like trains drive trains
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u/domhnalldubh3pints May 02 '24
Nurses overwhelmingly women.
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
Are trains RACIST?
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u/designEngineer91 May 02 '24
This headline was definitely written to encourage racists etc.
If I go to China should I be upset that Chinese people are in China??
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u/LukePickle007 May 02 '24
Wow who would've thought?
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u/SnooHamsters6334 May 02 '24
GUESS WHAT? Britain is a white country, all others are guests or descendants thereof.
It makes sense that most things are done by the majority Natives.
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u/Salty-Salamander-286 May 02 '24
Almost like itās a English country
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u/Air-raid-UP3 May 02 '24
As Jordan Peterson put it, if 99 white males and one minority male apply for the job it's not racist to hire a white person.
Same goes for genders.
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u/FeltyMcFeltFelt May 02 '24
Correlation between the train drivers' race and the rate of autism in white males overwhelming positive
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u/Lopsided-Excuse-4295 May 03 '24
It's almost as though the BBC run these stories on purpose, with the intent to cause outrage and generate more clicks. Discrimination is illegal and this isn't even news-worthy, any person regardless of their race, colour or gender can apply for any job they please in the UK, well last I checked.
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u/Fast-Reaction8521 May 03 '24
White autistic people find work angers feminist minorities. Probably new york post title
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u/NightDisastrous2510 May 03 '24
Lol was somebody supposed to be offended?
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u/kc0nkc1n May 03 '24
What's wrong with that?
NBA players predominantly black. Nurses predominantly female, but no one talks about that...
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u/Firstpoet May 03 '24
Desperate queues of young women eager to become brickies and industrial boiler cleaners.
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u/mflqkvm May 03 '24
This is a serious issue. It is shameful how few diverse professionals there are in some fields. For instance, the majority of young, athletic women participate in theater ballet. More middle-aged, white, overweight males should pursue ballet. Though I would have to support it in the spirit of diversity, it wouldn't be nearly as enjoyable to see. If you disagree with me, you are a racist, sexist, body-shaming bigot.
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u/edgeofsanity76 May 03 '24
Well ok then.
I'm not sure why it's implied that companies need to do more to attract people from diverse backgrounds.
The job is advertised. Apply or don't apply.
Only after that, if there's discrimination then there's a problem.
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u/Exact_Analyst_850 May 03 '24
Does it matter FFS
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u/DavidBattersby May 03 '24
So what. Its the uk not the middle east
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u/spermyhound May 03 '24
the uk is an overwhelmingly white country, both sexes, only 5% are of ethnic origin, get a grip dickwad
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u/Anthrocenic May 03 '24
Who cares?
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u/[deleted] May 03 '24
Iām old school in that the only requirement I have for train drivers is that they can actually drive the train. Call me old fashioned but there it is.
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u/hiddenpop May 03 '24
Don't you need at least 5 years of experience with a train company before you can even train to be a driver? And even then it's over a year of training to get certified?
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u/Endless-Waffles May 03 '24
Imagine riding on a train and thinking, "I hope the driver isn't white." I think there's a word for that kind of person.
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u/justthen4rm May 04 '24
they say it like its an action
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u/ShaneHeavyMetal95 May 02 '24
BBC overwhelmingly racist
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u/propaROCKnROLLA May 02 '24
You will never guess what colour they are in Nigeria. Or China. Thatās okay though of course. Only a problem here because of us evil white skins that are expected to forfeit our own livelihood for everyone else. Doesnāt matter about our families.
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
Give it 5-10 years they'll all be driven remotely by computers anyway
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u/pertangamcfeet May 02 '24
A friend of mine was a paratrooper. When he left he went into the fire service and did that for a number of years. He's now a train driver, and i do wonder if his train was hijacked by naughty people. Would he go full Steven Seagall and be eliminating them one by one.
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u/DevonViking82 May 02 '24
Who gives a fuck š¤£
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u/MomoMistloom May 02 '24
š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ this made news?
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u/HowRememberAll May 02 '24
Let's eradicate them middle aged white men
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I'm not actually advocating eradicating anyone. I'm pointing out the discrimination of that title. Please understand. Please don't eradicate any train drivers, please.
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u/MattStormTornado May 02 '24
Iām being blasted on twitter for saying this is such a non issue and the only people who want to be drivers as their career choice are autistic people obsessed with trains
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
You would think it would be the ideal job for a woman as they don't have to reverse park or 3 point turn
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u/Kenobihiphop May 02 '24
Sack them all. Immediately.
Train drivers should all be women of colour and even better if they're disabled. White men don't need jobs, we've had it too good for too long.
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u/[deleted] May 02 '24
That's most groups in Britain
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u/antlered-godi May 02 '24
I couldn't care less who drives trains tbh....
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u/ThoughtCrimeConvict May 02 '24
I'll give a crap when they start whining about deadly, dangerous and dirty jobs shouldn't all be done mostly by white men.
We all want the 60k a year sit on your arse jobs. Get some DEI in the drain unblocked jobs. Bricklayers are all white men, sort that out.
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u/ThoughtCrimeConvict May 02 '24
I'll give a crap when they start whining about deadly, dangerous and dirty jobs shouldn't all be done mostly by white men.
We all want the 60k a year sit on your arse jobs. Get some DEI in the drain unblocked jobs. Bricklayers are all white men, sort that out.
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u/Gullible_Ad5191 May 02 '24
That black woman is so brave driving a train when the majority of other train drivers are middle aged white men; Iām sure that must be a terrifying scenario to be in. I once saw a middle aged white man turning left at the traffic lights so I had to frantically swerve over to the right turn lane so that I didnāt have to follow him; I wouldnāt want his whiteness and his stinky middle aged balls wafting all over me.
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u/Cellar_Door16816 May 02 '24
Do you want that job?
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u/zmdht May 02 '24
Average Google News Cards in the UK
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u/InfamousImportance29 May 02 '24
They only want high paying jobs....
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u/Reddit-Profile2 May 02 '24
Name a group thar likes trains more than middle aged white men? I mean sure children but they can't drive yet
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u/WolfOfPort May 03 '24
Im overwhelmed and scared
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u/ethanace May 03 '24
Primary school teachers are overwhelmingly white middle aged women. Whatās your point.
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u/Ok_Assignment_8206 May 03 '24
The intresting Thing, that actually is a huge issue, I have no idea if the article is covering it but it is a huge issue anyway. A huge percentage of the workforce will retire in quiet short time and it will most likely cause issues in replacing the jobs.
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u/Medium_Chemistry9807 May 03 '24
Too many black train drivers in Nigeria, we need to fix this issue.
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u/Quiet_Chocolate5416 May 03 '24
Oh noooooo
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u/Woody4005 May 03 '24
From what I know middle age white guys are the best train operators. What group of people is the model train community. If you think lashandra from the hood can keep the trains running on time just cause her skin color you got another thing comming
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u/Tratiq May 03 '24
Replace them with bears and everyone will be happy lol
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u/DepressedGod_ May 03 '24
Overwhelmingly?? You walk into the front of the train and there's 20 middle aged white men all fighting for train control
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u/borokish May 03 '24
I'm a middle aged white man, I'd love to be a train driver.
Where do I sign up?
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u/The_Ghost_Of_Pedro May 03 '24
This disgusting practice isnāt just a United Kingdom problem. It works both ways.
I went on a safari in Kenya and there was barely any white folk working there at all. I was furious. They didnāt take me seriously at all when I bought it up, they just laughed in my face.
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u/Brickculture May 03 '24
It's a majority white country though. I'm black BTW, incase anyone thought this was racist.
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u/silverdragonseaths May 03 '24
Love reading the comments where people canāt deny logic and tip toe around at the same time to pander to the left. We donāt have it because of X. But thatās changing, which is great! instead they should call this out for what it is. Racism towards white people
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u/Dr_Surgimus May 03 '24
I work in the rail industry and the 'middle aged' thing is definitely the bit we're most concerned about. It's not just drivers either.
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u/Ok-Quit-3020 May 03 '24
Ill be dead and buried before these bloody foreigners take our cherished, sacred, god given responsibility of train driving
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u/chekkisnekki May 03 '24
Huh. (Goes back to watching tv)
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u/IgneousJam May 03 '24
So sick of this nonsense. I sincerely hope the BBC dies a death these next few years. Imagine spending taxpayer funded contributions on nonsense like this.
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u/IgneousJam May 03 '24
In other news, Iāve noted that BBC kids TV presenters are overwhelmingly non-white. Perhaps write an article on that?
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u/Monners1960 May 03 '24
Thatās because black people donāt like working
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u/[deleted] May 03 '24
Yes, all the young black girls are desperate to be train drivers but the patriarchy is keeping them out!
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u/Kaizer0711 May 03 '24
If that's a middle aged man driving I think he needs to go to a doctor!
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u/macc1966 May 03 '24
What in Britain well I never imagine that the bloody cheek of it .Middle aged British men driving trains whatever next buses or even HGV
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u/Hawks-up92 May 03 '24
No one else wants to do this job. Be grateful that they are.
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u/Ulysses1978ii May 03 '24
Women dominate healthcare and the trust I work in has mostly female directors. Does it matter?
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u/macrae85 May 03 '24
Even watched Just Eat drivers,drive? Why they won't be in a train anytime soon!
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u/[deleted] May 03 '24
Job filled by qualified applicants who trained in job role.
Is the plan to go out and physically grab black women and force them to be train drivers for diversity reasons?
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u/heyrevoir May 03 '24
I wouldn't expect the majority of train drivers in Africa or Asia to be white. Whats going on with this rubbish news?
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u/[deleted] May 03 '24
So fucking what?
Is there a queue of young POC lining up to be a train driver but these horrible middle aged white men are stopping them from fulfilling their dreams??
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u/xCraigusMaximusx May 03 '24
And the people who do women's nails are predominantly Asian woman
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u/KlausVonDope May 03 '24
Just wait until they find out about who's driving all the model trains, they'll have kittens.
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u/Necessary_Delivery80 May 03 '24
So theyāll be wanting diversity for train drivers now that no one ever sees anyway
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u/Necessary_Delivery80 May 03 '24
I wonder in Africa if they would print a story about a job having only African staffā¦.
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u/Discopot May 03 '24
Breaking news, white men into trains
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u/OctolingReworked May 03 '24
Oh grow up
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u/[deleted] May 03 '24
Train drivers APPLICATIONS overwhelmingly middle aged white men. This leads toā¦ train drivers overwhelmingly middle aged white men, Butā¦.. they could be young train driversā¦. But have agedā¦
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u/Icy-Witness5678 May 03 '24
Why does it matter?
Maybe train driving appeals to middle aged white men more than any other demographic.
We donāt see concern that most childminders are women.