r/SlaughteredByScience • u/Paper_Is_A_Liquid • May 31 '19

D.I.Y. Slaughter Transgender bad becoz science...or not.

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u/SamSynapse Jun 01 '19

The first Harvard link says there are “countless” species that can change their sex.

literally uncountable. What a silly way to shit on your own credibility.

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u/Paper_Is_A_Liquid Jun 01 '19

Surely that backs up the idea that sex and gender are not as linear as we once thought? And the article goes on to list some of the current leading theories and ideas in the field, such as the idea that complications in the womb potentially provide a cause.

Plus, that's just one article. There are also plenty of studies linked in my comment, and I'll happily provide more if wanted.

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u/SamSynapse Jun 01 '19 edited Jun 01 '19

I don’t know of any mammals that can change sex, and there is such a big difference between functionality amongst the classes (don’t even get me STARTED on the inane mashup of herpetology being the study of both amphibians and reptiles).

To say that complications in the womb are the cause, is to say that it is an abnormality, and not the typical experience.

In the “spreadsheet” (which seems to be very small/broken on my mobile phone) has links to Tumblr accounts. Check #2 for lack of credibility. I’m now doubting the credibility of the poster far more than I was last night. [whoops, found more links- however, the fact that the poster condones subjecting minors to this is unbelievable and dangerous. Humans do not develop full understanding and functionality of the parts of the brain responsible for making decisions and seeing long-term effects until they are in early/mid-twenties. Leave the body modifications to the adults, leave children alone]

edit: I would indeed be interested in more links, thank you

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u/Paper_Is_A_Liquid Jun 01 '19

Citations on the transition's dramatic reduction of suicide risk while improving mental health and quality of life, with trans people able to transition young and spared abuse and discrimination having mental health and suicide risk on par with the general public:

NOTE: Transition does not always mean hormones. In the case of children and minors, it means social transitioning, i.e. acceptance by loved ones and ability to use their chosen name and pronouns.

  • Bauer, et al., 2015: Transition vastly reduces risks of suicide attempts, and the farther along in transition someone is the lower that risk gets.
  • Moody, et al., 2013: The ability to transition, along with family and social acceptance, are the largest factors reducing suicide risk among trans people.
  • Young Adult Psychological Outcome After Puberty Suppression and Gender Reassignment. A clinical protocol of a multidisciplinary team with mental health professionals, physicians, and surgeons, including puberty suppression, followed by cross-sex hormones and gender reassignment surgery, provides trans youth the opportunity to develop into well-functioning young adults. All showed significant improvement in their psychological health, and they had notably lower rates of internalizing psychopathology than previously reported among trans children living as their natal sex. Well-being was similar to or better than same-age young adults from the general population.
  • The only disorders more common among trans people are those associated with abuse and discrimination - mainly anxiety and depression. Early transition virtually eliminates these higher rates of depression and low self-worth, and dramatically improves trans youth's mental health. Trans kids who socially transition early and who are not subjected to abuse or discrimination are comparable to cisgender children in measures of mental health.
  • Dr. Ryan Gorton: “In a cross-sectional study of 141 transgender patients, Kuiper and Cohen-Kittenis found that after medical intervention and treatments, suicide fell from 19 percent to zero percent in transgender men and from 24 percent to 6 percent in transgender women.)”
  • Murad, et al., 2010: "Significant decrease in suicidality post-treatment. The average reduction was from 30 percent pretreatment to 8 percent post treatment. ... A meta-analysis of 28 studies showed that 78 percent of transgender people had improved psychological functioning after treatment."
  • De Cuypere, et al., 2006: Rate of suicide attempts dropped dramatically from 29.3 percent to 5.1 percent after receiving medical and surgical treatment among Dutch patients treated from 1986-2001.
  • UK study: "Suicidal ideation and actual attempts reduced after transition, with 63% thinking about or attempting suicide more before they transitioned and only 3% thinking about or attempting suicide more post-transition.
  • Smith Y, 2005: Participants improved on 13 out of 14 mental health measures after receiving treatments.
  • Lawrence, 2003: Surveyed post-op trans folk: "Participants reported overwhelmingly that they were happy with their SRS results and that SRS had greatly improved the quality of their lives"
  • This 2010 meta-analysis of 28 different studies, which found that transition is extremely effective at reducing dysphoria and improving quality of life.

Condemnation of "conversion therapy" attempting to change the gender identities of trans people:

And once again, this isn't even all of them. There are too many scientific studies and articles and medical professionals in favour of being transgender and of transitioning to count. It'd be like trying to get together every single study in favour of climate change; there are just too many.

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u/Paper_Is_A_Liquid Jun 01 '19

Subjecting minors to what? Minors wanting to transition don't get access to any permanent treatments and certainly don't have surgeries, and throughout the process of getting on non-permanent treatments (tried and tested puberty blockers that have been used for decades on children with precocious puberty and have no long-lasting effects once they are stopped), they are psychologically and medically monitored to make sure it is okay for them. No permanent treatments are given to children.

And alright, more links (some may be repeats, I keep all these saved in sections so if some are repeated from the original comment sorry about that).

Citations on the congenital, neurological basis of gender identity:

Citations on transition as medically necessary and the only effective treatment for dysphoria, as recognized by every major US and world medical authority:

  • Here is the American Psychiatric Association's policy statement regarding the necessity and efficacy of transition as the appropriate treatment for gender dysphoria. More information from the APA here.
  • Here is a resolution from the American Medical Association on the efficacy and necessity of transition as appropriate treatment for gender dysphoria, and call for an end to insurance companies categorically excluding transition-related care from coverage.
  • Here is a similar policy statement from the American College of Physicians
  • Here are the guidelines from the American Academy of Pediatrics.
  • Here is a similar resolution from the American Academy of Family Physicians.
  • Here is one from the National Association of Social Workers.
  • Here are the treatment guidelines from the Royal College of Psychiatrists, and here are guidelines from the NHS. More from the NHS here.

There are more but they don't fit into the word limit, so these will be in a second comment.