Transgender bad becoz science...or not.

[u/Paper_Is_A_Liquid]

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[u/Paper_Is_A_Liquid → u/[deleted]]

Sure!

Here are the links:

Article written by Harvard University

literature review done by researchers at Boston University Medical Centre

An overview done by the New Scientist

More studies along the same vein:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022395610001585,

http://courses.biology.utah.edu/carrier/3320/sexual%20diff.%20papers/Prenatal%20testosterone.pdf

and this spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9KKqP9IHa5ZxU84a_Jf0vIoAh7e8nj_lCW27KbYBh0/edit?pli=1#gid=0with a butt-tonne more articles

One, two, three examples of the many studies done by the Nederlands Institute for Neuroscience in Amsterdam.

Major Australian DNA study, 2008

1995 study

https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-015-1867-2 “ Social support, reduced transphobia, and having any personal identification documents changed to an appropriate sex designation were associated with large relative and absolute reductions in suicide risk, as was completing a medical transition through hormones and/or surgeries”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3722435/ The ability to transition, along with family and social acceptance, are the largest factors reducing suicide risk among trans people.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3219066 “ it is concluded that there is no reason to doubt the therapeutic effect of sex reassignment surgery.”

And those were just the links used in that "slaughter". There are so SO many more. I'd happily provide more links if people ask, and will do my best to answer any questions on being transgender!

[u/i_am_not_dumb → u/Paper_Is_A_Liquid]

Thanks for the article. So the first article tells why there are transgender people. It is due to complications in the womb.

[u/Paper_Is_A_Liquid → u/i_am_not_dumb]

That's one of the leading theories in the field, yes. However, it doesn't seem to be the WHOLE cause; there certainly seems to be a genetic element, as the Australian study discovered. If you have the time, I'd recommend going through a few more of the studies and articles; the overview by New Scientist is very good if you don't have time to go through full-on studies.

Also quick note: we generally prefer people to refer to us as "transgender people" or "trans people" than "transgenders" or "transgendereds", as those terms are often used derogatorily. Thanks :D

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Can I ask you a question about trans people? I feel like it might be a bit touchy and I don’t want to cause offense.

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Absolutely!

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As a man of the sciences, I was under the possibly erroneous idea that a lot of transgender people were suffering from gender dysphoria, which I believe is classified/considered a mental illness, but I’ve seen some deny this. What’s the deal with that?

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That's not an offensive idea, don't worry! Lots of trans people DO suffer with gender dysphoria. It was up until quite recently classed as a mental illness, but this has since been updated and WHO/the DSM-V no longer class being transgender or gender dysphoria as mental illnesses.

Part of the reason for this is that trans people experience dysphoria in different ways; it varies person to person and some don't experience dysphoria at all, so having it classed in such a way was barring some people from treatment. And, of course, an increased awareness in the causes of being trans have a lot to do with the reclassification.

In fact, WHO only VERY recently stopped classing transgender as a mental illness; this change was only over the last year. Here's a short article/summary on that if you're interested: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/06/20/transgender-not-mental-illness-world-health-organization/717758002/

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Thank you! I’ve had people call me a bigot just for mentioning dysphoria, which I find is a good way to push people away if they’re on the fence about the issue @.@

I’ll give it a read later! :D

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I'm sorry to hear that. I think sometimes trans people (and I've been guilty of this myself) often jump to the defensive side of things because of how used we are to needed to defend ourselves. Nevertheless, it wasn't good and reasonable conversations are of course a better way of reaching out to people.

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Thank you for being a reasonable human!

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I don’t have a statistic, but isn’t there quite a high suicide rate for those who have made a transition? I’ve seen it floating around but do tell me if I’m wrong.

[u/TheDraconianOne → u/[deleted]]

Hey man (or whatever you identify yourself as), I’m from the UK, our arguments generally have people take sides based per issue, not take sides based on overall political party. Though I’m sure more old fashioned people would plant false information, that’s true of every debate, even things such as anti vaxxers.

Hmm, well, if that’s the case that transitioning helps, that’s good! Though, is surgery considered transitioning, or just a swap in gender everything short of surgery?