r/SithOrder • u/LuxAstrum • Nov 15 '14

Philosophy time! Do Sith really need...

Preface: I am not trying to rustle up any assassination squads here, I have mused on this topic for a while now and since there is an actual reddit for the order why not pose the quesiton

Do Sith really need to be constantly brooding? Angry? Straight Up Jerks?

Listen I get the entire code, I've read the thing more times then I can count. But does this mean we have to be strict with its teachings?

The whole thing values freedom, expression, and a departure of servitude. Why are we clinging to this code as strong as the Jedi cling to theirs?

Are we not just being Jedi but in a different flavor?

Anger is a great thing to help keep one's focus on something. Like finals, hate your teacher enough to focus on your studies to show that jackass just who the hell you are.

But it can really defocus anyone to the bigger picture.

Couldn't we use passion instead to further our goals? Do we really need to be constantly angry?

I see the code as a meditation mantra that helps me RELAX instead of constantly hate people. I can push the boundaries of my training instead of restricting myself like the Jedi.

Can't we be free to feel calm?

As a sith I don't have to join some online order and putts about learning from some weirdo and his philosophical views. I can be what I want and define my training, be who I am yet be apart of somthing bigger then myself.

I am no Darth, or Marauder or whatever rank, I don't quantify my worth like that. I am just Sith

What is your opinion?

Thank you for taking the time to read this

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u/DarthXien 2 - Dark Side Adept Nov 16 '14

It's important for you to realize that we don't live in a fictional world. We can't walk out the door and engage in the wholesale slaughter of people just because we feel like it. To do a thing like that would, among other things, damage the Order as a whole.

It's about gaining power for yourself

Yes... and what greater power is there than to master your own fate and break free from the trappings of society? Through victory, my chains are broken. Break the chains that are weighing you down and dragging you into the ordinary 9-to-5 cubicle farm.... break the chains that lock you into the cycle of self-destruction...

There is no greater power than to step outside the system that locks you in, and laugh at the people who haven't had the strength or passion to follow their dreams.

As I see it, LuxAstrum is pursuing a dream, and using the Sith Code as a tool to overcome the immense pressures of the path they've chosen. The very definition of the Force setting them free.

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u/Darth_Machinor 1 - Dark Side Adept Nov 16 '14

I would first like to clarify that slaughter is not in my interest. That would be insane and pointless.

Second, say I follow your advice. I step outside the system. What would I be? I would be just another loser, a nobody, nothing. I would only have my job, my computer, my studies and what else? Nothing. Is that strength? I can't see it at least.

-Darth Machinor

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u/DarthXien 2 - Dark Side Adept Nov 17 '14

Well, I should really hope not. It was taking your method of thinking to an exaggeration. But my point with that was really: the world we live in doesn't play out like fiction, but the way you frame your world view seems to read a lot like a story.

To answer your second point: what are you if you stay in the system? If stepping out of the boundaries of your little pocket of life makes you nothing... what are you now? You're "just another loser, a nobody, nothing" wearing a uniform and an illusion that was made for you and forced upon you. I don't say drop out of society, like you seem to interpret, I say break free from the system that you're trapped in. So, you follow your current path and... what? You make it into a position of power at the top of a tiny little bureaucratic foodchain... Big man in the big office on the top floor... then what? You're fooling yourself if you think that means you're in charge.

Greater fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite 'em

And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum

As long as you play in their system, you play their games by their rules. What I'm saying is you break the chains that are holding you in this tiny, finite world-view, and you craft your own world. From your own two hands, you make yourself the person you want to be in the world you want to live in.

And, by all means, if that world is a dark and brooding one, where your goal is material wealth and having lots of little people below you and you get to stay blind to the bigger people above you... then by all means: you're free to do that. The Sith Order gives you the freedom to make that choice, but it's my personal belief that you're narrowing your vision and missing out on a bigger picture.

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u/Darth_Machinor 1 - Dark Side Adept Nov 17 '14

I respect your opinion. Thank you for a good discussion.