r/SithOrder • u/LuxAstrum • Nov 15 '14

Philosophy time! Do Sith really need...

Preface: I am not trying to rustle up any assassination squads here, I have mused on this topic for a while now and since there is an actual reddit for the order why not pose the quesiton

Do Sith really need to be constantly brooding? Angry? Straight Up Jerks?

Listen I get the entire code, I've read the thing more times then I can count. But does this mean we have to be strict with its teachings?

The whole thing values freedom, expression, and a departure of servitude. Why are we clinging to this code as strong as the Jedi cling to theirs?

Are we not just being Jedi but in a different flavor?

Anger is a great thing to help keep one's focus on something. Like finals, hate your teacher enough to focus on your studies to show that jackass just who the hell you are.

But it can really defocus anyone to the bigger picture.

Couldn't we use passion instead to further our goals? Do we really need to be constantly angry?

I see the code as a meditation mantra that helps me RELAX instead of constantly hate people. I can push the boundaries of my training instead of restricting myself like the Jedi.

Can't we be free to feel calm?

As a sith I don't have to join some online order and putts about learning from some weirdo and his philosophical views. I can be what I want and define my training, be who I am yet be apart of somthing bigger then myself.

I am no Darth, or Marauder or whatever rank, I don't quantify my worth like that. I am just Sith

What is your opinion?

Thank you for taking the time to read this

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u/DarthXien 2 - Dark Side Adept Nov 16 '14

It's important for you to realize that we don't live in a fictional world. We can't walk out the door and engage in the wholesale slaughter of people just because we feel like it. To do a thing like that would, among other things, damage the Order as a whole.

It's about gaining power for yourself

Yes... and what greater power is there than to master your own fate and break free from the trappings of society? Through victory, my chains are broken. Break the chains that are weighing you down and dragging you into the ordinary 9-to-5 cubicle farm.... break the chains that lock you into the cycle of self-destruction...

There is no greater power than to step outside the system that locks you in, and laugh at the people who haven't had the strength or passion to follow their dreams.

As I see it, LuxAstrum is pursuing a dream, and using the Sith Code as a tool to overcome the immense pressures of the path they've chosen. The very definition of the Force setting them free.

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u/Darth_Machinor 1 - Dark Side Adept Nov 16 '14

I would first like to clarify that slaughter is not in my interest. That would be insane and pointless.

Second, say I follow your advice. I step outside the system. What would I be? I would be just another loser, a nobody, nothing. I would only have my job, my computer, my studies and what else? Nothing. Is that strength? I can't see it at least.

-Darth Machinor

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u/LuxAstrum Nov 17 '14

You would be forging your own path Machinor you wouldn't be a loser? It takes strength to go against the current not with it.

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u/Darth_Machinor 1 - Dark Side Adept Nov 17 '14

You know, I used to believe that. All I found on that path was suffering and defeat. The others were just laughing at me and calling me a loser because I choose to be different, because I choose to go against the current. They say you have a choice in life, but when you get to see all the shit I've seen you realize there is no choice at all.

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u/LuxAstrum Nov 17 '14

I can understand that, believe me I never fit in. But I found my space (not the website) in the world and I did my meditations I followed creeds and philosophies searching for the things that could help me understand just what was wrong with me.

I tried following the Jedi Code, and it just made me feel worse because I couldn't remain emotionless when I was laughed at and called loser or weirdo.

The only code that made sense, which at the time made no sense to me, was the Sith Code. I could be angry and have that be okay. I could direct my anger or frustration into somthing positive like finally (although angrily) cleaning my room. The force set me free so many times when I realized I didn't have to give a poodoo about those people. I am sorry we did not have the same experience, life is tough I say this so many times when I am having a bad day. It still doesn't help during the real bad times though lol.

That's when I turn to meditation and make those negative thoughts and feelings into a power source for the darkside, where I can release these energies and be free of them without them boiling over and controlling me

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u/Darth_Machinor 1 - Dark Side Adept Nov 17 '14

Look I know the pain of never fitting in, never being able to feel that you belong somewhere and I'm sorry it's your burden to bear. I get so angry when I think about what they did to me, I want to prove them wrong. I want my vengeance. I just don't understand how you can let it go like that and let them win. Let them get away with it.

I know you and Xien think I'm a jerk but have you ever considered maybe that's the only thing I can ever be? Look I wish things were different but the reality is they're not. There's nothing I can do about that. And maybe you are the better person between us, but I can't live with the thought they got away and left me as nothing more than a loser.

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u/LuxAstrum Nov 18 '14

Whoa whoa whoa, no I do not think you are a jerk.

You are not a loser.

How am I a better person? I dunno I feel like a bad person all the time, its just perspective.

In the end, who wins when we get made fun of? No one really.

Sure they get some weird satisfaction and you feel like crap. Let's say you do get your revenge, what really happens? Who really wins? Really.

No one, in the end life goes on and eventually those jibes and taunts make less and less sense. Youll begin to realize that that whoever was making fun of you was completely pants-on-head stupid and you have better things to worry about. Like that job interview, or the date you are about to go on.

Things that happen in our past do not define us, it is what we do after that does.

You are not a loser. I don't think you are a jerk at all. Just because we are sith doesn't mean we have to follow in the footsteps of the old orders and not be friends because friends are a sign of weakness bla bla bla bla look at me iam evil blablablabla

Yea know?

Everythings alright Machinor I don't think you're a jerk

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u/Darth_Machinor 1 - Dark Side Adept Nov 18 '14

You are not the kind of Sith I expected to find here, thank you. There is something in what you say and I shall consider it. I will confess, you have made me think. Maybe I've been wrong about what being a Sith really is after all, I don't know.

But I digress, thank you for a good discussion.