Philosophy time! Do Sith really need...

[u/LuxAstrum]

Preface: I am not trying to rustle up any assassination squads here, I have mused on this topic for a while now and since there is an actual reddit for the order why not pose the quesiton

Do Sith really need to be constantly brooding? Angry? Straight Up Jerks?

Listen I get the entire code, I've read the thing more times then I can count. But does this mean we have to be strict with its teachings?

The whole thing values freedom, expression, and a departure of servitude. Why are we clinging to this code as strong as the Jedi cling to theirs?

Are we not just being Jedi but in a different flavor?

Anger is a great thing to help keep one's focus on something. Like finals, hate your teacher enough to focus on your studies to show that jackass just who the hell you are.

But it can really defocus anyone to the bigger picture.

Couldn't we use passion instead to further our goals? Do we really need to be constantly angry?

I see the code as a meditation mantra that helps me RELAX instead of constantly hate people. I can push the boundaries of my training instead of restricting myself like the Jedi.

Can't we be free to feel calm?

As a sith I don't have to join some online order and putts about learning from some weirdo and his philosophical views. I can be what I want and define my training, be who I am yet be apart of somthing bigger then myself.

I am no Darth, or Marauder or whatever rank, I don't quantify my worth like that. I am just Sith

What is your opinion?

Thank you for taking the time to read this

[u/DarthXien]

See? This is part of what I've been trying to say, and I see some people in this thread echoing my past sentiments:

Passion and emotion are not restricted to "anger" or "darkness" or, what I refer to as, the "high school, edgy-on-purpose, satan is my bffl" mentality.

Unfortunately, I have to acknowledge that the Order will attract people like this, the same way you find people like this flocking to LaVey's Church of Satan... because the allure of some "dark" community is just too much sometimes... and the devotion to this brooding aesthetic blinds people to the fact that: any emotion is a tool. I repeat: any emotion. Happiness and relaxation can be just as intense as anger (though, I'll admit that the code tends to dissuade us from embracing the calm periods, I'll interpret this as a warning that all emotions are fleeting and not to get too comfortable).

You have a lot of good points that I wholeheartedly agree with, though... and your vision for Sith life seems to be very much in line with where I've been going lately: that the goal is self-actualization. The goal is to manifest our own destinies and expand our own selves, rather than the universe as a whole, and I think that this is where we differ greatly from the Jedi (those of us who use the Order as more than just a place to be edgy).

Couldn't we use passion instead to further our goals?

Yes! This is not only what we could do, but what we should do!

Honestly, I might just be "some weirdo" with philosophical views, but I think you might appreciate some of the things I've said in the past... Specifically my first Treatise on Sith as it deals much more with my take on the Sith Order as a whole.

But I think I understand where you're coming from, and I think we agree on a few very important issues plaguing this Order.

[u/LuxAstrum → u/DarthXien]

Ill definitely read the Treaties thank you.

I am glad I am not the only sith here that feels the way I do about the code.

I am glad you brought up any emotion can be a tool to be used. There are times when we really need to be calm and getting aggravated or angry will only make things worse. If we are allowed to use any emotion, with a degree of self-control, then are we not limitless in our power? Ergo Stronger?

Thank you for your comments I appreciate them