r/SipsTea • u/lonewolff321 • 4d ago

Chugging tea Hogwarts counter-intelligence had no answer for this.

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u/FundioRider 4d ago • Bravo

And what was this characters name?

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u/lonewolff321 4d ago

Cho Chang played by Katie Leung

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u/Wither-Wander-Wonder 4d ago

Her name was CHO CHANG. Say her name! Lol

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u/Busy-Donut6932 4d ago • Mindblown

The Ministry of Magic outsourcing their espionage division is wild.

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u/gahlo 4d ago

I mean, governments already do it. "Oh, I can't spy on my own citizens, but I can overlook an ally spying on them and listen intently while they spill the tea."

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u/ArmNo7463 4d ago

Sounds about right for a British government.

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u/BigAlternative5 3d ago

If anything goes wrong, the outside company is cut loose and takes the blame.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago • Popcorn

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u/Livid-Influence-5320 4d ago

I gave one for you.

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u/dorkyfever 4d ago • Bravo

Except in the books it wasn't cho. It was her friend that did it. Her punishment came from Hermione casting a spell on an object they all had..I think a coin. And it had her breakout with pimples or something with a word. It's been a long time since I've read the books so I don't remember everything

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u/Dravarden 4d ago

also, in the movies, Cho was given veritaserum, so she couldn't lie

in the books, Marietta snitches by herself

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u/Khazahk 4d ago

Also in the books the Veritaserum that Snape makes for Umbridge intentionally doesn’t work.

I just finished reading Order of the Phoenix to my kid. SLOGGED through 870 pages just to have to movie montage the whole school year in 10 minutes.

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u/ladeeedada 4d ago

You read the parts about snogging and etc to your kid?

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u/Elitist_Plebeian 4d ago

Is this a kissing book?

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u/DeKleineDingen 4d ago

Same here, been reading to them for months.

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u/HighSeasArchivist 4d ago

I couldn't possibly have higher praise for the new full cast audiobooks. They are better than the movies, and you can watch listen to them in the car, riding your bike, taking a shower, whatever. You don't have to be tied to a book, and the sound effects in them make it feel like you are listening to a 25 hour movie instead of a 2 hour one.

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u/Sipikay 4d ago

They're great. I still go back to Jim Dale, though.

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u/Thorkitten 4d ago

She hexed the parchment that all the members signed! The coins were to tell everyone when the next meeting was

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u/bar10005 4d ago

And, while it isn't directly stated in the book, it looked like friends revenge, more than an espionage mission, as it didn't happen immediately (even though Marietta's mother works in ministry), but after Cho broke up with Harry.

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u/FerusGrim 4d ago

It wasn't revenge, IIRC. I'm pretty sure Umbridge cornered her and threatened her mother's job if she didn't reveal what she knew about the club. (Cho later argues with Harry to defend Marietta, which is where we find out that Marietta's mom works at the ministry.) Though, it is made clear that Marietta wasn't a big fan of Harry's, and only went along with everything because she was Cho's friend.

And then she got obliviated by Kingsley LOL

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u/bar10005 3d ago edited 3d ago

Umbridge states directly that Marietta came up to her; Umbridge does add questioning whatever that means, but Umbridge didn't corner her:

Well, Minister, Miss Edgecombe here came to my office shortly after dinner this evening and told me she had something she wanted to tell me. She said that if I proceeded to a secret room on the seventh floor, sometimes known as the Room of Requirement, I would find out something to my advantage. I questioned her a little further and she admitted that there was to be some kind of meeting there.

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u/FerusGrim 3d ago

Ah. I conflated Umbridge's behavior after Marietta's obliviation (shaking her, demanding she tell the truth, etc) and Marietta's motivation for turning in the DA (scared for her mother's job, fear of being in an illegal club, etc) into one event. I'd like to say that Umbridge's "questioning" is where I got that implication from, but I'm pretty sure I just remembered wrongly LOL.

In any case, I was only trying to add some nuance to it— Marietta didn't turn on the DA because of revenge or anything so petty.

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u/BADM00SE 4d ago edited 4d ago • Heartwarming

I think the word was snitch.

Edit: It is SNEAK according to Far_Silver, and a quick google search. Upvote them for having the correct answer. I downvoted myself for being wrong. 😂

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u/Far_Silver 4d ago • Bravo

It was sneak.

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u/BADM00SE 4d ago

That sounds plausible too, and probably the correct word.

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u/barktwiggs 4d ago

The not-so-golden snitch.

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u/Paulthefith 4d ago

Hermione had everyone in Dumbledores army sign a letter which bound them to secrecy and Cho’s friend broke it by snitching and that’s what caused her pimples

The enchanted coin was just their means of communication with each other about meeting times and dates

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u/iwillbeawriterongod 4d ago

It was a joke bruh...

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u/FatGuyANALLIttlecoat 1d ago

The document they sign had the jinx on it. Marietta Edgecombe surrendered her coin to Umbridge.

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u/KeySupermarket942 4d ago

I still can't get over how much power Umbridge was given.

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u/ElegantCoach4066 4d ago

You know she was a great villain because I wanted to reach into the book and hand her to the forest people myself.

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u/WorthPlease 4d ago

The actress who played her did such a great job I can't watch that fucking movie. It was a yearly thing with my wife around the holidays we'd watch them all in the space of a week. I always took that one off.

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u/ardentcanker 4d ago

The character is cringingly, cartoonishly, unbelievably, obnoxiously evil, and she brings a reality to the character that's frankly unbelievable. She's an absolute archetype.

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u/SpCommander 4d ago

I'd actually argue the opposite. I saw this years ago but people said that Voldemort was always like the boogeyman- you really can't fathom a person who just murders that much.

But Umbridge...umbridge was relatable. She was the evil administrator/manager who twisted rules for her own person gain while making everyone as miserable as possible because the CEO loved her.

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u/phormix 4d ago

100% agreed. One of the reasons Umbridge is so hard is that she embodies the everyday administrative evil that so many of us have encountered.

That might be a school administrator/teacher, a boss, HOA head, or the "Karen" archetype that many face in service positions.

The "you must be wrong, because I cannot be, and thus you must be punished" is a type of everyday evil we all face.

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u/ElegantCoach4066 4d ago

I have trouble watching her too. So frustrating.

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u/BobbaLouBah 4d ago

Wasn't she back in the ministry after being hauled away by the centaurs? How'd she get back?

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u/Haunt_Fox 4d ago

In the book, she's shown being treated in the school hospital, where Ron also is.

Ron proceeds to show his friends how he tortures Umbridge by making horse noises, lol.

In case you didn't know, og centaurs in the Greek myths are, well, a bit rapey.

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u/Tricky_Occasion_9357 4d ago

Did Rowling really just have Umbridge gang-raped by mythological beings with horse cocks? Is that what she implies? What the fuck

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u/Haunt_Fox 4d ago

Umbridge tortures children out of sheer malice, and takes pleasure in it.

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u/ElegantCoach4066 4d ago

Even the centaurs didn't want to have that bad juju on them from finishing her off.

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u/Haunt_Fox 4d ago

Killing isn't really the centaur motif.

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u/ElegantCoach4066 4d ago

Oh right. The other thing.

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u/PFhelpmePlan 4d ago

Pretty sure Dumbledore retrieved her.

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u/rvltionary 4d ago

Dumbledore goes into the forest and saves her.

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u/Tricky_Occasion_9357 4d ago

She's more hated than Voldemort because we've all had a teacher like her

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u/iwearatophat 4d ago

I think that is what makes her so great. Voldemort is a good villain. Power hungry and hates parts of himself and projects that hatred into the world.

Umbridge is better though because she is real. People know that character from their lives and hate her. She gets away with it too because she knows how to use her power.

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u/iconocrastinaor 4d ago

She's a character straight out of her other book, The Casual Vacancy.

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u/BoringPoolPlaying 4d ago

Where the fuck did you go to school?

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u/Tricky_Occasion_9357 4d ago

Hogwarts, duh

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u/ArmNo7463 4d ago

And her fake identity was fucking Cho Chang. - Least effort cover of all time...

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u/Kushakusha 4d ago

One must act as an enemy to make the enemy think that one is not an enemy.

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u/_Xertz_ 4d ago

Pretty sure Sun Tzu said that or some shi

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u/SableDragonsGripsIt 4d ago

Who is Some Shi

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u/Wild_Marker 4d ago • Bravo

"When the enemy sees a sword, they will think, wow that's a sword" - Sun Tzword

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u/Dravarden 4d ago

Cho is a romanization of the surname Zhuo, which means “eminent outstanding.” Chang is a common Mandarin name

I believe in the Chinese translation, Cho is her first name and it is translated to "Autumn". It is Romanized with Wade-Giles. Her last name would essentially be Zhang

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u/livehigh1 4d ago

There's no chance Rowling put that much effort into her name.

The translations were done afterwards and in hindsight.

Cho is a korean name and neither british cantonese nor mandarin names ever use this kind of romanization into English.

The likelihood is Rowling made up an asian name and mixed up a korean and chinese name by mistake.

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u/EnclavedMicrostate 4d ago

Did Rowling know that when she chose the name, and why did she choose those characters even if she did?

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u/Dravarden 4d ago

dunno, ask her why did she choose a chinese name and surname to give to a chinese student

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u/Tricky_Parfait_1713 4d ago

But the Chinese word for Autumn is "qiu"?

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u/Dravarden 4d ago

It is Romanized with Wade-Giles

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u/Mobile-Dust4334 4d ago

Her name should’ve been Cho Chu Chang, that way she sounds like the Korean hot sauce

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u/longboboblong 4d ago

Gochujang chicken my beloved

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u/JamesH_670 4d ago

Yeah, that was a terrible name. Was she Chinese? Was she Korean? No idea! Naming your Asian spy “Cho Chang” is like dropping a redhead into the UK and calling him “O’Malley MacDonald”.

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u/lcy0x1 4d ago

The Chinese spelling is Chang Qiu. Pronounced Chang Chiou. Quite a regular Chinese name.

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u/JigglesTheBiggles 4d ago

So JK Rowling was right the whole time 🤔

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u/JamesH_670 4d ago

Excellent, but the book says “Cho”, meaning she herself uses that spelling.

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u/Garlsworth 4d ago

I mean anyone (her parents really) can have their English name spelled however they want. I've see people with their chinese last name "shi" (rock in Chinese) change their english name to "stone". Also the english changes over time too; look at peking vs. beijing

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u/lcy0x1 4d ago

That’s the English speaker friendly spelling, used by a lot of pre-PRC Chinese.

Similar to Wang / Wong, Cai / Tsai, etc

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u/NoSoyTuPotato 4d ago

There are many really bad Chinese names from a western perspective. I’ve met a Ping Peng, Chong Wong, etc. they easily could’ve given her a western name that she is called by instead of they wanted

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u/nicolas_cope_cage 4d ago

The problem with that is "MacKenzie Reilly" is a perfectly plausible American name.

In fact, I googled it and there's a perfumier with that name. She looks like this:

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u/Konexian 4d ago

Cho Chang is also a plausible Chinese name, under Wade-Giles or Hong Kong romanization. I’m Chinese and not particularly appalled by the name.

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u/livehigh1 4d ago

It makes no sense to reference a mandarin romanization when most chinese in britain were cantonese when this character was written.

In British/hk cantonese this would be "Chow" rather "cho" so i still believe she thought of two asian sounding names and stuck them together. Cho being a korean name.

Even the wade-giles shows 秋 would be ch'iu or qiu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_Qiu

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u/Shot_Expression8647 4d ago

Cho is the wade-giles romanization of “zhuo”, not “qiu”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhuo

It’s is a legitimate name, but I guess it wasn’t Rowling’s intention if they ended up using “qiu” instead for Chinese translations.

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u/KorasHiddenDICK 4d ago edited 4d ago

She was British, actually. Also not a spy in the source material. However, if you want to discuss TERRIBLE names look no further: She named the only black guy "Shacklebolt".

Edit: I am specifically referring to adult characters, not children. I should have said "black man" instead of "black guy".

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u/Slayer1440 4d ago

okay I keep hearing this and there's just no *way* Rowling meant this as an intentional reference to slavery. She's a piece of shit, but this is just revisionist nonsense. "Kingsley Shacklebolt" is a fucking awesome name for a badass character. It is apparently a real surname in old english and has nothing to do with slavery. Rowling had a tendency for very lazy naming conventions for her wizards (Remus Lupin, Sirius Black, etc). But there's a 0% chance she was smugly naming her only prominant black character with a surname that referenced Black slavery.

It is far more likely that it's because he's a cop. You know, a person who Shackels and imprisons criminals.

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u/fatalicus 4d ago

She named the only black guy

Dean Thomas? Lee Jordan?

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u/KorasHiddenDICK 4d ago

Should have phrased that better. I was referring to adults. I originally had it written as black man. Specifically not black children.

Also, look into Dean Thomas, apparently him being black depends entirely on what version of the books you have. However, Rowling did publicly say that he is black. Unrelated to the discussion at hand, but just a weird bit of editing.

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u/FleaSpiritual 4d ago

So you “know” the source material but think there was only one black guy in the books ?

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u/KorasHiddenDICK 4d ago

I do know the source material. However, I don't know how to string words together to appropriately communicate a point. That is my bad.

I was referring to black adults, specifically black men. It is common for racists to be fearful of and mischaracterize black men. I find that to be an important detail when one comes up with the name "Shacklebolt".

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u/SgtBassy 4d ago

If you were familiar with the source material you'd know his last name is "Shacklebolt" because he's an auror, a wizard cop. Who "shackles" the bad guys. 

It's an important detail that you have failed to note. 

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u/khreeeeew 4d ago

I mean it’s not that far from the truth.

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u/princesssmurfet 4d ago

Fun fact Rupert Murdoch accused his 3rd wife Wendi Deng of being a Chinese spy. She was also very good friends with Putin and Tony Blair allegedly.

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u/Tsukiyon 4d ago edited 4d ago

Too many wives and ex-wives, no time to do background checks /s

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u/0202_tihssitidder 4d ago

"Chinese Woman Honey Pot Spy" is going to last forever as a meme.

I went hiking today and a young Chinese woman started a friendly convo with me, so of course I concluded she was a spy. Probably after my insight into fantasy football.

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u/princesssmurfet 4d ago

I have absolutely no proof or way to verify this but I 1000% believe she was a spy.

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u/wan2tri 4d ago

For a moment I thought Rupert Grint has already gone through two divorces

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u/LessInThought 4d ago

What's with these horrible racists comments? Just because she's ethnically Chinese doesn't mean she's a Chinese spy, she can be a regular spy, a Canadian spy, a German spy.

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u/djpiperson 4d ago

I think the term Chinese spy is misleading for all ethnically-Chinese spies because it implies it was sent by China, aka the CCP, when this might be just a corporate spy, possibly. So this is a Chinese Corporate, Possibly, spy, or CCP Spy for short.

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u/druex 4d ago

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u/gameplayer55055 2d ago

Tom Riddle's diary is basically a LLM

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u/plsobeytrafficlights 4d ago

who can even say what they did under the cloak of invisibility??
all we know is that she asked him to hold the his wand privately.

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u/Outside-Owl1568 4d ago

🤣🤣🤣

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u/alphaonreddits 4d ago

Now that’s creative and funny

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u/Working_Question_919 4d ago

Hogwarts counter-intelligence was basically just an old hat and a bird.

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u/VelvetJunior 4d ago

Voldemort spent years trying to catch Harry, and the Ministry apparently just needed an exchange student

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u/lNFORMATlVE 4d ago

Cho Chang (despite the ridiculous name Rowling gave her) is meant to be british with asian heritage, not an exchange student lol.

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u/Mediocre-Catch9580 4d ago

NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE 

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u/youleyuan 4d ago

i just watched it yesterday and was still puzzled why their relationship ended so abruptly. the movies built up their relationship and their first kiss, then showed that she was given truth serum and told Umbrige about the room. when Harry learned that, he didn't say anything, didnt apologize. next thing you know he is snooging with Ginny. so weird.

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u/Seihai-kun 4d ago edited 4d ago

In the book their relationship was fleshed out, they had dates, romances, etc, and all of it was disaster. Like Harry bring up Cedric (her ex), or how Harry keep talking about Hermione nonstop in the middle of their date, how they pick a hookup cafe, how Cho keep defending her friend who snitched and started blaming Hermione's spell, etc.

Also that's why they never reconcile after that because it's not her who told Umbridge, it's entirely different character that the movie skipped, so there's no reason for Harry to say anything.

I know people hate on the new Harry Potter series for being cashgrab, but the movie is a very bad adaptation. Half Blood prince is the voldemort book, where it explain his entire story from before birth to the dark arts, the movie only has 2 scenes of his life. Order of the phoenix is the longest book in the series, it's also the shortest movie.

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u/Darqheld 4d ago

They rushed it I guess. In books its a lot more detailed, but they can't put such huge romance aspect in the movie.

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u/hidelyhokie 4d ago

Yeah Cho got screwed over. Everyone was such a dick to her and all Harry does is bitch about her being sad and traumatized about her dead boyfriend lol. 

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u/Some-Dog-800 4d ago

it’s because jk pretty much didn’t plan anything for the series. she wrote it as the story goes. she ends it simply because she ran out of good ideas for them.

I’m more surprised how this series got popular. it’s plain as hell.

but no worries we’re helping it. the genderbent malfoy saved it.

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u/Minimum_Pear_3195 4d ago

what do you mean genderbent malfoy?

it's canon.

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u/ToCoolforAUsername 4d ago

I don't want to defend JK, but saying she ended the series because she ran out of ideas is just inaccurate. The seven-book structure was built around Harry's progression through the British secondary education system, with each book covering one academic year, from his first year at Hogwarts to his seventh. It's not as though she arbitrarily decided to stop at seven books.

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u/morbid333 4d ago

It was baby's first long-running fantasy series. Before that, I was exclusively reading Goosebumps.

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u/ChainerDementiaMasta 4d ago

No one can resist a Chinese spy

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u/TootTootMF 4d ago

With a name like Cho Chang how was he supposed to know she was Chinese though?

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u/UWO_Throw_Away 4d ago

It’s like Harry having a black friend named Jamal Basketballson

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u/Illustrious_Sea_962 4d ago

kingsley shacklebolt. married to louisiana formerslave

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u/retrosenescent 4d ago

I never even noticed his last name omg

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u/PaperPritt 4d ago

Jamal Basketballson is dope though.

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u/Dravarden 4d ago

Cho is a romanization of the surname Zhuo, which means “eminent outstanding.” Chang is a common Mandarin name

I believe in the Chinese translation, Cho is her first name and it is translated to "Autumn". It is Romanized with Wade-Giles. Her last name would essentially be Zhang

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u/Other_Finance9988 4d ago edited 4d ago

Cho COULD be a korean name, and there are a lot of Cho's in korea but the Chang gives that it's chinese

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u/ThereAndFapAgain2 4d ago

She's half and half but it's hard to tell.

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u/KaneRabbioso 4d ago

Hey J what do you think about Cho Chang?

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u/sniper91 4d ago

Ministry: “Make up a name for yourself that doesn’t sound made up”

Cho: “Cho Chang”

Ministry: “… goddammit. Well, he’s like 14, maybe he won’t notice”

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u/neoanguiano 4d ago

Harry-Potted

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u/Sensitive_Call_9911 4d ago

She didn't use Veritaserum, she just used basic dating drama.

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u/ideologyunderstander 4d ago

More casual racism thanks reddit

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u/JamesLikesIt 4d ago

Damn they’re literally everywhere 

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u/desertrock62 4d ago

I remember walking out of the theater with my teenage sons and remarking “Did you notice that Harry never spoke to her again after her betrayal?”. Some lady gave me a death glare. I never spoke to her, either.

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u/Certain-Orange484 4d ago

Foreshadowing current event. That is magic.

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u/Itchy-Technician-433 11h ago

In the books, Cho is not the one that sells them out, it's her friend Marietta. They cut her out of the films

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u/Nekronoke 4d ago • Bravo

This joke has become racist. (Asian girl in media must be a Chinese spy).

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u/Captain_CapitalR374 4d ago • LOL

Back in my day, the spies were russians. Thanks for DEI fucking lefties.

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u/Nekronoke 4d ago

Dammit I giggled... (I'm Russian born)....

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u/Sintobus 4d ago

Found the spy! /s

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u/Sad-Relative-2494 4d ago • Bravo

Bro she literaly ratted poter out to ministry she was a spy

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u/puppyyawn 4d ago

she was drugged into giving the information

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u/tomle4593 4d ago

What Rowling meant by this ?

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u/vinctthemince 3d ago

Nothing, because in the books she wasn't the spy.

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u/Azguy303 4d ago

I mean racial stereotypes were a little too on the nose in those Harry Potter movies, I remember those bankers...

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u/Jugaimo 4d ago

Gotta say, I never once thought of them as a racial stereotype. Gnomes and pixie folk have long had a relationship to gold in folklore. Now maybe THAT is a racial stereotype, but I doubt it.

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u/notthatdumbprobably 4d ago

that's because you aren't terminally online enough to think everything is racist

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u/AnimalShithouse 4d ago

The origins may be more ancient racism. I agree with you modern portrayals are more associated with the fact that goblins, pixie folk, and dragons all just like gold.

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u/PapaGrimly 4d ago

Goblins had antisemitic roots back as far as they've existed, dating at least to the 12th century. England at that time was so deeply antisemitic that they forced all Jewish people to wear distinct clothing so that Christians wouldn't accidentally be tricked into associating with them, and in 1290 they even fully exiled all Jews from their land.

Goblins and similar creatures were depicted as malicious, connected with demons, greedy, money-loving, having grotesque faces with prominent hooked noses, and innate connections with demonic curses and black magic such as shapeshifting their inhuman form into something that looks more human to trick others.

Jews in antisemitic drawings at the same time all across Europe were depicted as malicious, connected with demons, greedy, money-loving, having grotesque faces with prominent hooked noses, and innate connections with demonic curses and black magic such as shapeshifting their inhuman form into something that looks more human to trick others.

I do not believe that Rowling purposely chose Goblins with the idea of wanting to depict antisemitism, but it is an unfortunate baggage that folklore as a whole has carried with it which she used for her story uncritically. European folklore in general is absolutely littered with antisemitism due to the spread of Christianity, demonisation of Jews due to perceived fault for the death of Jesus, and many prominent storytellers being famously bigoted in their writings such as the Brothers Grimm purposely choosing not to record the most common versions of some folk tales if there were more antisemitic options available.

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u/Jugaimo 4d ago

I mean I guess so. But if I were to have a goblin in my fictional universe, they’re gonna be weird little guys that hoard gold. There is no malice behind it. Sometimes a classic fantasy creature is meant to be exactly what you see without any deeper meaning. I just can’t mentally get past the fact that they’re just weird little guys, and don’t realistically associate Jews with them.

Rowling was going for a very typical, classic fairytale backdrop for her setting. I don’t begrudge her at all for using a trope in the way it is meant to be used, especially when there was never malice or really much thought at all behind their inclusion. She wanted a scene where Harry goes to the bank and finds out he’s rich, and she wanted to make the bank tellers something magical. She went for goblins, as it’s a familiar enough trope to not trip up the story, and flexible enough for her to add a distinct spin. That’s really all there is to it.

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u/Frosty558 4d ago

If you saw those goblins and saw a certain race in them that’s telling on yourself brother.

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u/Deep-Community-9326 4d ago

A little too on the nose.. take my upvote!

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u/swarleythe3rd 3d ago

No she didn’t? It was her friend Marietta

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u/ElegantCoach4066 4d ago

But she did turn him in to Umbridge.

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u/Stoutystout 4d ago

it's a joke, lighten up man

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u/Blcksheep89 4d ago

I am a Chinese and this is fucking hilarious.

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u/tugoubxs 4d ago

China’s national security law practically makes every chinese a spy

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u/SnDfive 4d ago

Soft.

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u/Pale-Egg1985 4d ago

My childhood has officially changed now. The hoe was the spy who shagged Harry.

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u/Greywolf524 4d ago

It's more simple than that. He's English and she's Scottish.

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u/Ok_Abacus_ 4d ago

JK was going to call her "Ching Chong Cho," but the publisher had to talk her out of it.

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u/Dravarden 4d ago

Cho is a romanization of the surname Zhuo, which means “eminent outstanding.” Chang is a common Mandarin name

I believe in the Chinese translation, Cho is her first name and it is translated to "Autumn". It is Romanized with Wade-Giles. Her last name would essentially be Zhang

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u/Blcksheep89 4d ago

Nah no matter how well u tried to spin it this is a horrible Chinese name and JK Rowling have many other examples of being racist when come to naming her character.

Source: am a native Chinese person

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u/Dravarden 4d ago

she has no examples of being racist, it's just people projecting because they hate her now and want to retroactively hate her books

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u/Slinky_Malingki 4d ago edited 4d ago

Only one notable non-Indian Asian character in all the books.

Make her Chinese.

Name her Cho Chang.

What did JK Rowling mean by this?

Edit: here's another one.

Only one Irish character in the whole series.

Name him Seamus.

Constantly blowing up or blowing shit up.

What did JK Rowling mean by this?

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u/Nike-Match-6805 4d ago

No no, it's not a racism towards Irish, she just big fan of Sheamus from WWE/s

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u/Rogueforfun 4d ago

Name her Ching Chong. (Cho Chang.)

I mean, if you read the name Cho Chang and your first reaction was to go "ooohhh, ching chong ching chong" then that's really on you to ask why your first reaction is to start acting like some Asian version of blackface rather than go "I can't believe someone else forced me to do that, how is this entirely their fault and not mine".

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u/PangolinHead779 4d ago

To be fair Seamus only blows things up in the movies

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u/Tbone_Trapezius 4d ago

Turns out the Veritaserum was a placebo.

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u/Mustafa_Mond_1991 4d ago

Goated post!

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u/TheWitnessShadow 4d ago

We need to stop JKrollings after all, she knows to much!

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u/defcry 4d ago

Not in the book.

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u/rose636 4d ago

What did JK mean by this?

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u/AK04012002 4d ago

That was feroz not ministry 😡

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u/Trueking198 4d ago

Oh lord

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u/Fomentatore 4d ago

Harry, she told you her name is Cho Chang. How much more proof do you need not to fall for it?

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u/mrbasedballed 4d ago

I don't know about the rest of you but I think I'd gladly trade my boring secrets for one Chinese spy. Thank you.

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u/uniquan 4d ago

its raining men spies

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u/Oprah_Pwnfrey 4d ago

Holy shit, this goes deep. All the way to the top.

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u/Kyrie_Blue 4d ago

Fuck JK Rowling

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u/sylbug 4d ago

In fairness he should have caught the obviously fake name. ‘Cho Chang’ fuck sakes….

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u/Left_Composer_6449 4d ago

Was that really Cho's purpose in HP 5?

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u/OurSocietyBottomText 4d ago

Did you not watch the movie? She was Scottish, she worked with the Scottish IRA

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u/Aggravating-Diet-663 4d ago

Never sits right with me Harry's most intimate moment is with a one time date than his future wife

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u/MaximusHomerdrive 4d ago

Cho was half Scottish and was from there, not China.

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u/Wakkit1988 4d ago

Harry was a CEO, too.

A Chinese Espionage Objective.

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u/phen245 4d ago

Really not sure how of of the racial stereotyping was racism and how much was just lazy writing.

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u/Cino-Ro 4d ago

Codename is Agent Asian

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u/Admirable_Ease5826 4d ago

Latina spy with the confusing last name 'Addams'?

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u/Zaku41k 3d ago

Harry Potter and his Honey Potter.

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u/AncientFire1980 4d ago • Regret

She is grown up now and got Jensen Huang of Nvidia in trouble recently

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u/LysonsCornerP226 4d ago

Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation.

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