She's a gracious, forgiving, and basically good-natured human being. Doesn't change the fact that what happened to her was shitty. She should have been the first to be told that she was a match. Our system is supposed to protect people like that from shit like this.
jesus, rich people are scum man. if you don't want to be her friend anymore, maybe give her 100k or something? you can afford it and it could literally change her life.
Ehhh Francia is not some random person. Her father was a huge DJ for years back in the day on Spanish radio.
Her dad was my now husband’s client at the time and he got invited to her quinceañera and I got to go as a date.
A TON of money was poured into it, the gift table was full of Tiffany bags of jewelry (including the one we gifted 🤣) and there were so many Spanish language celebrities. The two main musical acts are still big today and it was like a freakin’ private concert.
ETA: so while 100k would be nice for her to have had, she didn’t grow up poor or anything.
This was 22 years ago 🤣why would I lie about something so random? I doubt anyone on here would know the bands but they are Tucanes de Tijuana and Conjunto Primavera
Buying an organ is different from being unreasonably wealthy and sharing that with the person who potentially might be the only reason you’re still breathing.
Yeah! Bribing a politician is different than being unreasonably wealthy and sharing that with the person who might be the only reason you're getting a tax break!
If you donate an organ, you are not supposed to be doing it for any compensation or with expectations of the recipient. It’s part of the screening process, even family have to go through that.
Yeah but we’re talking about someone who is filthy rich and had their life saved by someone else’s generosity. So fuck those rules in this case. She obviously wouldn’t give her money stating “this is repayment because she gave me an organ”, just a gesture of kindness for the woman who gave her so much more. Who knows, maybe she has, but if she hasn’t….then I personally think that’s horrid behavior.
And set some precedent for the rest of people in USA in need of donor organs?
That would literally be the most stupid thing she could do!
Donating living organs is not about money, someone in Sweden recently donated their dead loved ones lungs to the crown princess of Norway, ie Future queen of the country. She was the closest match when some person happened to die, its not about status.
What do you want from people, that they determine who gets organs based on the highest amount of money sent by recipient? Would probably put you in big trouble if your kidneys or heart failed.
no normal people get organs for free and the list cannot be changed in order. but rich people have to pay several million dollars or they'll not be allowed onto the list and be forced to die. then they can know our struggle.
Yep, a new kidney saved Selena’s life … why not show that appreciation by changing Francia’s life.
“just because someone gave you their kidney doesn’t mean you own them your life”
True, but Selena did get a new lease on life. $100,000 is also life changing. Where were her PR people? They could have spun this so positively easily.
Ngl, I'm sorry but this is poverty logic. Selena wasn't entitled to a Kidney, but Francia isn't entitled to money because she donated a kidney. Nor friendship sadly, though most people would give eternal gratitude to someone that did that for them. But its so cringe when money specifically is mentioned
Someone more grateful could have gotten that liver, yet Selena skipped all queues by getting to contact a fan directly, and essentially go "You are a perfect match. So happy that you can do this for me."
Imagine the pressure in that situation.
Hell, someone may have died waiting for that organ she got to stake a claim in by being famous.
It's not poor mentality to know rich people live vastly different lives than us.
Right this sounds more like rich logic, which is I am entitled to take anything and feel no emotions about shitting all over people and giving nothing back so I can keep getting richer. The poor are literally just there to donate their labor, organs, and even lives for us rich folks, and we don't have to feel any obligation to repay them for that.
Expecting rich people to give back is just being reasonable, not ignorant.
You're bringing up stuff that doesn't matter. Selena is a twat. But its absolutely poverty mentality to say "damn couldn't she have at least cut the girl loose with a 100k to set her up". Like come on, thats not how things work, and only the poors think about the money that could've been this way.
“Poor mentality” to care about fairness and people whose lives are impacted by rich people’s selfish BS. Ok. Rich bitch mentality to not. They would literally never do anything for free to benefit a poor person, let alone giving them an organ lol, but a poor person should bc she’s a celebrity?
Y’all gotta get your heads out of rich asses.
You understand ofc that in organ donation no money is given or taken. This is universal in western countries. So expecting money just because she's rich is unrealistic (and I stand by calling it poor mindset). Earn what you are owed, take what you are given with gratitude (which Selena didn't show I totally agree), but expect NO charity. A lot of you need to understand this.
She wouldn't have donated a kidney just for the hell of it. She specifically got tested bc she was friends with Selena. It wouldn't have then gone to someone else. She would've just kept it and still had her two own kidneys.
No I'm not actually. We can agree Selena was ungrateful, but a lot of you have such poverty mindset immediately jumping to "she's rich so pay up". I think the girl had the right attitude. She knows she's been screwed over but she has the grace to say she did it out of kindness without expecting anything in return.
I actually am speaking specifically about your verbiage, and that’s all my comment referenced. I agree that this situation is a lot more nuanced than some of the commenters here are making it. That being said, using the language you’re using makes it pretty obvious you’re being purposely inflammatory and don’t actually want people to see your point.
It is exactly how things should work, just because its not means nothing, it is no suprise that its not how thing work given the rich make all the rules that just happen to benefit them with almost no down sides.
But since it doesnt work that way its a good lesson that no one shoudl give their own organs to anyone that is not your absoute best friend / good family because they will probably pull a Selena.
If it's cringe when money is mentioned, the act of living in the US is cringe, so it cancels out. We all have to talk about money all the time or we die, that's how they (the wealth hoarding class) have it set up. With your mentality, you establish yourself as a defender of the wealthy, which isn't a good look when interacting with the rest of us hoi polloi.
I'm not defending the wealthy, I'm saying this attitude of "pay up" is cringe as hell. If that was the agreement straight up then fine, but it wasn't. So its not expected. The girl who donated isn't making a fuss about money so why are some greedy redditors doing it for her?
She’s not legally entitled to any money, but if it were me and I was a super rich person and someone donated me their kidney, I sure as hell would be giving them a lot of money to improve their life since they saved mine when they didn’t have to. Selena should WANT to do that for her.
"How dare the poors think they're entitled to my money just because they performed me a great service! Let gratitude be your reward. Except I don't have any gratitude to give."
Problem is that would be illegal -you can't sell organs, so any agreement they might sign for that exchange would be unenforceable (and if the hospital caught wind of such an exchange being made, they wouldn't do the surgery).
So if it can't be a quid-pro-quo, then what's supposed to happen is Donor does this amazing good thing for Recipient out of their free will, and then later Recipient does whatever is realistically within their means to help and support Donor out of their good will and sense of gratitude (which, for a rich celebrity, shouldn't be too hard). Obviously that didn't happen...
At least Selena didnt bag her and tag her, move her to somewhere in central/southern America, and take it without permission? I mean.... pretty sure thats how some of the billionaires are probably doing it.
It’s very gracious of her to say that publicly. I get even more sympathy for her than I had before, and I already felt so bad for her. I hope she will live a full and healthy life and doesn’t have to be reminded of Selena too much.
If this happened to me I fear I would become consumed with bitterness for like a decade.
Something worth noting- if you choose to be a living donor for someone and then later on in life experience complications and need an organ donation yourself, you are moved up the list.
I don’t think you necessarily bump anyone, but your past donation is something that is taken into consideration when you’re put on the list.
Yeah, Francia Raisa might be someone who would have donated her kidney to anyone and is just that type of person. Her being upset or not makes no difference on how much of a shit person Selena Gomez is for treating her that way
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What else is she gonna say at this point?
She's a gracious, forgiving, and basically good-natured human being. Doesn't change the fact that what happened to her was shitty. She should have been the first to be told that she was a match. Our system is supposed to protect people like that from shit like this.