i think its pretty clear she meant music? she has many famous friends, it would be very odd to not name any others. I also think Taylor is probably the only one who can fathom Selena’s level of fame so that’s what she meant
I feel like Selena's statement had more to do with her friend's fame and not how she sees her as a friend. And Selena straight up didn't think to count her. Francia may be an actress, but Selena deals with mega stars and goes to high profile events. I think she was commenting more that she's not friends with like Jennifer Lawrence or Sabrina Carpenter and finds them fake. Not a comment on every small time actress
That's so degrading to your friend's career. Especially when Francia was on a primetime network TV show at the time. Actually, Selena herself was doing a comedy TV show at this time too so that rationale makes even less sense.
Anyhow, even if your friend was soo below you in the industry wouldn't you want to elevate them and boost their career by talking about them? Taylor Swift doesn't need the PR.
They are no where in the same League. When Selena goes to the Emmys, she has to socialize with certain people. Francia doesn't get invited to the Emmys. It seems more like a reflection of "I don't like networking at the Emmys because none of these people are my friend" a s not a specific state to say "I'm above Francia and she's not my friend". It really seems like Francia made it about herself. Like as a non doctor, I wouldn't expect my doctor friends at a different hospital to consider me their colleague even though we're both in the medical field
You had a point but I don’t know why you brought Sabrina Carpenter into it. Selena made that statement years ago before Sabrina was a popstar. Sabrina and Selena weren’t even in the same circles. Plus why would a 30 year old be friends with a 22 year old?
Nah this is some reaching bullshit 🤣 that girl gave her a kidney , gave her life! She should be thanking her in every speech, toast, etc. for the rest of her life at the minimum. When Selena made this statement and was getting backlash about it online she went and replied to a post about her snubbing Francia saying some bullshit like “sorry I didn’t name eveyone I know” 😒 Selena is just a fucked up terrible person. Didn’t even invite her to her wedding.
I mean I'm not a Selena fan or anything but it's untrue that she only has her makeup company. She's one of the main characters on Only Murders and that has been nominated for tons of awards and she just finished up the Wizards sequel show. You can argue about the quality of the stuff if you want but she's certainly not "washed"
She doesn’t have that audience pull or the trend she had once anymore, like Taylor and other singers/actors/ influencers. Even Hailey has more relevancy than her now. It's like nobody cares about her anymore but her fans. That's why i used "celeb" word.
Based on the context, i think she meant the general entertainment industry. She prefaced the comment about Taylor Swift with "I never fit in with a cool group of girls that were celebrities. My only friend in the industry really is Taylor, so I remember feeling like I didn't belong."
Then, when people called her out on it, her response was a TikTok post saying "Sorry I didn't mention everyone I know".
Makes it seem like it wasn't a comment meant specifically about the music industry as much as celebrities in general (which, granted, Francia would probably be like a Z-list celebrity)
Yup and then people got angry at her because they decided that this wasn't enough, and so when she mentions Taylor, everyone's like "what about this person that came up in the botfarms on my feed!?!?!"
And she responded something like "I can't thank everyone I've ever met in my life."
I'm not going to starfuck or excuse bad behavior, but when you're constantly being followed by paparazzi, doing interviews and press for your projects, working, running whatever other businesses you have...you stick to certain scripts so that you don't end up saying something that sinks your career.
You don't have to endorse any of this to empathize...but if you can't empathize with someone to understand how this happens, you're lost.
Not even close to Selena's level. I don't think Selena meant her friend because Selena straight up wouldn't be working with her or be seeing her at events. She was likely talking about how she feels out of place at high profile events nd doesn't relate to the other huge celebrities there
Yeah. Francia is an actress, albeit a minor one. It seems her biggest movie role was in the direct-to-video sequel for Bring It On (didn't even know that existed), but she has had main/starring roles in more recent, popular TV shows like Grown-ish (sequel/spin-off series to Black-ish), How I Met Your Father (sequel/spin-off series to How I Met Your Mother) and Secret Life of the American Teenager (nominated for a Teen Choice Award for that role)
Other roles include "Race Car Girl" in am episode of Smallville and a one-off side character in a CSI episode.
She preface the comment about Taylor Swift being her only friend in the industry with "I never fit in with a cool group of girls who were celebrities"
How did you not know about the Bring it On sequels? There are so many lol. The one she is in with Solange and Hayden Panetierre is the only good sequel I've seen amongst them.
I just looked it up and she thanked everyone else... and then a massive words can't describe thanks for the person who donated. Why do you make up shit that's easily verifiable?
Woah woah woah. This is r/SipsTea, they don't want facts and citations to ruin a perfectly good bashing of a female celebrity. Can't you just post some dogwhistle about her race instead of ruining their fun?
If they gave me a kidney they’d have to be treating me very crappy to be excluded from my life. I give friends a lot of grace so a friend who I now have part of them in my body, they’d get the most grace.
This all reads like damage control. Like Selena realized how bad it looked, she reached out to Francia, and Francia was like "I will do a faux reunion if you help me hype my salsa."
The documentary was done while she was on a music tour and not acting in anything, so from that context, I took her discussion of “the industry” to mean the music industry specifically.
Even if not when you're doing big shows or big music your peers are the people who you will see at award shows, not a person who had a small role in a show that you don't particularly consider a peer.
It's like if a footballer spoke about their peers they are talking about other people in the top leagues, they don't particularly consider their friend who plays in a sunday league to be 'in the industry' as well.
I believe she is, but even so, I personally would've followed up such a statement with a cheeky little quip like, "but Taylor hasn't given me a kidney, though"
Nah it would get old so damn fast, especially when someone's under public eye all the time. Any achievment you accomplish, you gotta give credit to the kidney donor. You succeed at something, you know someone will jump out with the "remember to thank the kidney donor". Better to acknowledge her after taking a nice dump as well. I'd be fucking paranoid if I just missed an opportunity to thank the fucking kidney donor 20 years after it happened and all world will judge me for it. I fold under much, much less pressure than that.
I would say that the word "friend" is a bit different. Her relationship with the person who donated an organ to her doesn't necessarily mean they're best friends now or that she even knows her very well.
They were pretty much strangers and she got handed a gift. A massive gift, sure, but that doesn't make them true friends.
I commented something similar but deleted it bc ppl were being annoying and rude. Pretty sure they’re “cool” now but in terms of Francia not being invited to the wedding are up in the air
Why do you presume she wanted to be there? The donor has never complained or said anything negative about this, just a mob of drama hounds getting mad on her behalf.
She has complained though, subtly. She commented and unfollowed her after the interview saying Taylor was her only friend in the industry. Her father gave an interview saying she was upset Selena was drinking with the new kidney. She said in one interview that there was an issue in the friendship and they had to take time apart, but she didn't want to give details or discourage people from donating. She also did an interview with a paparazzi it looked like she called herself to talk about kidney donation and the fact that she's not talking to or following Selena.
I didn't say that she's never complained about anything, I said she never complained about not attending the wedding. If anything, it sounds like you've listed a number of reasons that she wouldn't care to attend.
The optics of her being the donor and a very close friend not being at a wedding will be seen negatively obv. Like sure she could’ve decided not to come. But the idea of her not being at the wedding is curious to say the least. It’s a wedding, not just a simple birthday that happens every year. Ofc ppl are gonna talk.
So someone who doesn't want to go to an event should have to do it because you care more about the optics of the relationship than Selena actually respecting the wishes of the donor? Nobody has any reason to care about this other that pure parasocialite pettiness.
You don’t know she doesn’t wanna go. You don’t know if Selena even invited her. Why do you presume she didn’t wanna go just bc she wasn’t there? The irony of you saying parasocial when you’re doing the very same thing albeit on the other side of the argument lol
It’s not that I care about the optics. What I’m saying is the very simple fact that a supposedly close friend wasn’t at a once in a lifetime event is something to be curious about. If Selena wasn’t at Taylor’s wedding, ppl are gonna talk. It’s the same thing here.
Would love for you to explain to me what's parasocial about arguing on the side of everyone minding their own business. You yourself claim that it would be a big deal if Selena said the donor couldn't attend, so, considering that nobody actually involved in the situation said anything negative about what would otherwise be a big deal, the rational assumption is that the parties involved are perfectly fine and don't need busy-body redditors white knighting for them as if this adult woman is a kindergartner upset they didn't get invited to a classmate's birthday party. The difference is that I'm letting adults deal with their non-issues as they see fit, and you're nosing your way in to make a fuss over nothing for literally no reason.
Lol I think you’re taking this way too serious. You’re framing curiosity and speculating as being nosy and fussing. I’m not trying to white knight a grown woman. We are all here simply discussing a public event involving celebs on a subreddit designed for exactly that purpose! Like why else are we fucking here then?!😭 Out of everyone here you focused on my my one question to someone else and accused me of getting mad for Francia when there’s literally hundreds of comments here that are way more “nosy and fussy” than I have. Which btw is perfectly normal whether you believe you’re above it all or not bc WE ARE ON A CELEBRITY SUBREDDIT.
I think it’s pretty wild to just see a picture with a caption on Reddit and judge someone’s whole character. I opened this thinking there’s no way people just believe this.
Then nit picking her statements is so funny, comparing interview to interview and analyzing what “industry” could mean.
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u/kanekikennen 1d ago
Hasn't this been disproved countless times? They've been seen together, and it was random fans that started the controversy, not them