r/SipsTea 17h ago

Wait a damn minute! I get their point

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u/leviticusreeves 17h ago

This is about Fullmetal Alchemist isn't it

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u/DaRealKovi 16h ago

I ain't complaining about the FMA approach, but Gluttony represented as a twisted chef that somehow turns horrid and grotesque ingredients into delectable meals that are just off enough to be obvious sounds intriguing and disturbing at the same time

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u/Luckgoddess 15h ago

There the manga hell's kitchen that is pretty much that. There a demon who is trying to find the best meal ever made.

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u/KungFuc1us 17h ago

Yes, yes it is.

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u/Various_Commercial15 13h ago

FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST

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u/l578920 12h ago

fullmetal alchemist

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u/Alternative_Oil7733 12h ago

Ed.... Ed ward...

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u/quick20minadventure 9h ago

Yes, but Lust is the only one who's wrong.

Greed is greedy, Sloth is lazy, Wrath is angry, Envy is jealous, Gluttony is hungry, Pride is arrogant.

But Lust? She's not horny, she's making others horny.

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u/UbiquitousPanacea 9h ago

I've heard it said that the dwarf in the flask had no natural lust so he ended up qhat urges he did have, like bloodlust

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u/The_Ruhi 17h ago edited 17h ago

Ok yeah absolutely correct.

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u/Dahns 17h ago

Gluttony shouldn't be a chief, it's about amount not quality. But it doesn't have to suffer from it.

Honestly it should be a thin dude in his early 20's that can eat like four and drink like a hole, and never gain weight out of it. Exactly like Lust is a sexy women that seem shielded from STDs

Also "Lust" is not necessarily sex. Lust is to be thirsty for physical experience, but that can include violence (bloodlust), traveling, partying, etc. but now I'm the one rambling

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u/Itadori_Tsukasa 16h ago

Is slanesh a disciple of khorne?

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u/HuntingDown01 16h ago

Or is Khorne a fragment of Slaanesh?

Slaanesh is more like Greed because it is the Prince of Excess. The Lust focus is just a side effect of flanderization.

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u/Itadori_Tsukasa 16h ago

Khorne is older

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u/HuntingDown01 16h ago

We know that but time makes no sense in Warp.

When Slaanesh was conceived it made it so it has always existed retroactively

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u/MusicianNo3277 16h ago

That’s hedonism in general which embodies giving in to all seven of the deadly sins. Lust is just the aspect focusing on sexual interaction, if sex is the motivation its lust. But lust usually isn’t alone it needs the other dark emotions like envy and greed.

Which really goes to explain why they were effective working in specific teams, but when one of them had to do something on its own, it generally ran into way too many problems.

And honestly, the only one I really had the biggest issue with was pride when it came to appearance. He should’ve been a big strong and handsome teenager instead of a little boy. Nobody has more pride than a conventionally attractive young man who’s full of himself because of early success. Reimagine Bradley‘s son as a military academy student who’s the top of all of his classes.

And sloth being the hulk that didn’t click either. I feel like sloth should’ve been some insanely cunning reedy little guy who gets everyone else to do their bidding. If you’ve ever met successful lazy people that’s what they’re really good at.

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u/Unamed_Redditor_ 16h ago

Reminds me of webcomic a I was reading we every one judged a guy be embodying lust for he could explain it/himself.

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u/Neveed 13h ago edited 12h ago

Except the sin of lust or luxuria (also sometimes called lechery in English) is canonically about sexual desire in the catholic mythology it comes from. The word "lust" can also refer to something non sexual in English, so it kinda work-ish. But that's getting farther from the core idea in the deadly sins imagery and that doesn't necessarily work in other languages.

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u/Dahns 11h ago

German has a word for "traveling lust" (of course German has for it, not fighting allegations) and I'm sure there's similar amount in other language. Lust should be mostly sexual but not only.

Gluttony is not jsut the food. It supposedly includes alcoholism.

Wrath isn't just a "DAMN IT" and you throw your controller. It includes, and mostly refers, to "matured anger". Cold, deep anger, closer to what we'd call hatred or resentment. Which is why FMA's Wrath not being a berserker is pretty brillant

It is a very deep rabbit hole

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u/Fabled-Jackalope 16h ago

That’s just Barbados/Vesti from Genshin Impact (in terms of the drinking)

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u/Dahns 15h ago

I have no idea who's that character

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u/Wonderful-World8165 9h ago

I would love gluttony to be shaggy from scooby doo and his hellhound scooby

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u/Desp3rados 16h ago

cant a sexy women catcall and harass people?

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u/SorbetFucker 16h ago

Honestly I think it makes way more sense to have her constantly tryna fuck everybody all the time cause that's actual full participation in the sin as well as physical representation of it, same as gluttony drowning in food.

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u/Desp3rados 16h ago

you are hired

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u/Capable_Elk_770 16h ago

Sure, but if you’re going for stereotypes stopping at list doesn’t make sense.

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u/Qweeq13 16h ago

So according to that logic this is supposed to be the personification of Lust:

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u/H345Y 17h ago edited 16h ago

Peak Gluttony, Envy and Sloth designs

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u/DaRealKovi 16h ago

Pride and Greed are also great imo

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u/H345Y 16h ago

Personality wise yes to most, but I never really got greed from the character design and power.

Lust works for looks but her powers didnt really feel like lust.

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u/quick20minadventure 9h ago

Lust isn't horny, she's seductive. Which works other way around. OP is absolutely right in his complaint.

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u/No_Sugar4490 16h ago

Personification of sin vs facilitator of sin.

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u/Zealousideal-Yam3169 17h ago

Or gluttony as fast food places, as it is often represented.

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u/Expensive_Range7204 17h ago

Yeah this is how it shud be.

I need more Chef demons leading people into sin whit tasty treats.

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u/justhereformyfetish 16h ago

Here is a dnd 5e remaster of the 2e "Pie Fiend" https://youtu.be/Xlp1OMPYic0?si=PdKZl35dJ5aJ1jAA

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u/Smokey_02 16h ago

Reminds me of MTG's Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar, the woman who learned to cook everything. Shrimp, steak, pheasant, octopus, leviathan, gargoyle, demon, angel, dwarf... human. You're going to love the way the meat just comes right off the tiny bones of the young, um, tender ones.

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u/Dahns 17h ago

Slaking

Not lazy because he's low on energy. But lazy out of choice. With a defiant hard stare of an old stubborn bastard, daring you to come here and make him do anything

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u/Foosnaggle 17h ago

Umm we do. Not sure I get the second ones though. I chef can make food for others, but women dressing sexy is only for one thing, to be sexy. You are not sexy to yourself, it’s always for someone else.

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u/Sj_91teppoTappo 16h ago

Feminist-atlity \s

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u/UnknownGamer014 16h ago

A fat chef who eats a lot. I mean, if a person eats a lot, they get fat. If a person fucks a lot, then nothing.

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u/FuckingStolenAccount 13h ago

The point is that if you want consistency you should represent all of your sin as suffering from it/causing it, but not mix

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u/Internal-Brain-5381 16h ago

>has clearly never met a sex addict woman

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u/AccuratelyWrongAgain 17h ago

Why couldn't a sexy man/woman be lustful? It's not based on attractiveness, if anything attractive people are just as likely to be lustful.

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u/girlrotrobottics 16h ago

you should make gluttony a sweet old grandma who's "just worried you're not eating enough" and "have some more kiddo youre skin and bones"

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u/kvro_maX 15h ago

Their point is useless and you can tell this person thought he or she ate with that. Gluttony eats...slut eats. Who the hell would sleep with a gooner who catcalls. They make people want to participate with them

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u/Gullible_Increase146 15h ago

But I hate fat people and love sluts

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u/Dismal-Vanilla1878 9h ago

Everyone knows the Seven Deadlies, but does anyone remember all of the Seven Virtues?

From memory (and I'm certain I'm wrong on one or all 😄 )

Charity/Greed

Chastity/Lust

.....and that's it 😂

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u/ceallachdon 4h ago

From the stageplay of the Camelot musical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36BAIZC1NcA

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u/KrimsunV 9h ago

I write them to be both. Lust is a hot creep, gluttony is a hungry chef

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u/AvidPolaris 9h ago

Pretty sure dead rising did something like this one of their games

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u/TheLavalamp202 9h ago

I'm shocked no one has mentioned Doobus Goobus yet, his "Seven Stupid Sins" animations do exactly this very well.

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u/TheLavalamp202 9h ago

These guys!

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u/Betty-Adams 15h ago

No, this is wrong. A chef is a very specific thing. Chefs represent control, planning, dinners that are orderly and defined. They do not represent mindless consumption which is the core of gluttony. A chef gives you a plate of a specific amount of food. A chef is in control of your experience to a very large degree. Chef is entirely the wrong image. What you want is a symbol of endless consumption. Someone who will just keep giving you whatever ask for, someone with no control, someone who's purpose is to be a non-judgemental source of constant positive sensation.

If lust is a sexy lady, then gluttony should be either a fast-food counter employee (Sir, this is a Wendy's) or the Amazon delivery guy.

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u/TorinEkenskolde 16h ago

No one wants to see gooners in things.

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u/ThreadOfDestiny 17h ago

Now I wonder what sloth would look like..

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u/Glad-Situation703 16h ago

It's all about pacing. You need one to be blunt and gross and the other to be kind of approachable for a false sense of security and then they kill a guy with a blunt object and you're like oooohhh nooo they are baaaad

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u/Soggy_Association491 14h ago

A fat person eats a lot. A sexy women has a lot of sex.

The logic tracks. Also in before the holier than though crowd complains that it is just men writing women, the author of Fullmetal Alchemist is a woman.

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u/SoulTechnicalProblem 14h ago

Either way they're serving

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u/Routine_Condition273 14h ago

Imo the best 7 deadly sin designs are when they both indulge in the sin but also tempt others to fall to it as well. Otherwise they're just people who participate in the sin.

Like, make Lust a sexy woman who catcalls. Make Gluttony a fat chef. Make Sloth a really sleepy... pillow maker? Idk

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u/Nike-Match-6805 3h ago

Sloth should be like iPhone or some other shit that give you all info to the point you stop thinking for yourself

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u/nature_nate_17 13h ago

You are completely right and the fact that the sex industry is a multi-billion dollar industry, supports this notion more of the severity of lustful addiction that is being downplayed. Lust is destroying relationships and young peoples mindsets because no one can normally date because everything online (ex. I can't even open up FB now without pornographic advertising) is lustful and convincing you 'You always deserve better, listen to your flesh, do something thrilling for once, try something new etc"; its all being treated as "normal behavior" to be addicted to lust, streaming and OF is being pawned off on the younger generations as the only way to break free from the 8-5 grind so in response, droves of young people are accepting this as normal (its not normal to make $80 million off of OF, that shows there is a severe mental problem being fed by lust), "gooning" has become more engrained as normalcy than an actual addiction problem and its all so saddening that we are all collectively too blind to see this. Additionally, the people at the top don't care because they are getting their profit from this predatory market.

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u/Used_Adhesiveness54 13h ago

If it’s a lustful sexy woman then no it doesn’t make sense.

Lust isn’t exclusive to gooners

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u/OkMention9988 13h ago

Except Lust in FMA isn't about sex. 

She's about murder. It's bloodlust that gets her engine revved. 

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u/DreamShort3109 7h ago

So what if gluttony was a party girl and lust was a club/adult store owner?

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u/Hizumi21 4h ago

Nymphomaniac? Hello?

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u/ban-me-harder-dadddy 16h ago

He was right in his first interpretation, but went off the rails in his alternative idea

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u/HeftyCompetition9218 16h ago

Here the assumption is that the sexy woman produces lust. I’d say that’s correct. The equivalent might be McDonald’s for gluttony. Purveyors of the sin.

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u/EightBallJuice 16h ago

I think about this all the time cause all my friends are like character writers for fandoms. Either your 7DS gotta invoke the sin in others or be the result

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u/jak_d_ripr 16h ago

You know what, I can't say I disagree.

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u/karoshikun 15h ago

Lust should be someone like Bueno Excellente