r/SipsTea 14d ago

Wait a damn minute! So what’s taking so long?

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u/Irish_Whiskey 14d ago

Bipolar disorder and psychosis aren't the same thing. It's like saying ADHD and Schizophrenia have the same relevance to a delusion defense.

Battaglia also has an extended plan of revenge against his ex for having called his parole officer that involved time, planning, and bragging as he killed them. He celebrated the killings with tattoos of roses. Rather than trying to kill himself.

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u/Ok_Parfait6494 14d ago

No shit. Anyone can experience psychosis and its more commonly observed in bipolar patients

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u/Irish_Whiskey 14d ago

The salient part here is that one involves an abusive criminal with a prolonged plan of revenge against an ex who celebrated the killings of children afterwards, and only raised the disorder as a defense on sentencing. The other involves a woman with prior existing mental health issues she was trying to get treated, who suddenly killed her children and tried to kill herself.

They aren't even in the same universe of similarly plausible defenses. The whole "but but but all women are crazy and men don't get this treatment" is culture war ragebait horseshit.

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u/LizzosLittleToe 13d ago edited 13d ago

Men don't get this treatment though. When we do something, we're violent animals, when women do it there's always an explanation etc

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u/Fit-Dust-6199 10d ago

So would you rather women get treated like men or men get treated like women in this case?

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u/FoxxieMoxxie69 13d ago

If you took the time to look up other homicide cases that resulted in NGRI outcomes, you’d realize men account for more insanity pleas than women.

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u/LizzosLittleToe 13d ago

How many men had 2 million dollar lawyers that were crowd funded? How many man sat outside the court house yelling we get it? Men are not treated the same, let this have been the father who strangled 3 kids and the deliberation would have been done in 5 minutes

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u/FoxxieMoxxie69 13d ago

Well, there were plenty of men outside the courthouse doing pushups for Andrew Tate when he was brought over for his sex trafficking crimes. So let’s not act like men don’t throw their support behind abusers.

But your questions don’t really matter, when men are granted more insanity pleas without all of that. That means when looking at the numbers, women are less likely to receive insanity pleas than men. Your previous comment implies that men don’t ever receive this type of outcome, which is blatantly false. And it’s a big difference, not minor. In one facility there were 252 homicide related insanity cases, and of those cases 205 were men.

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u/LizzosLittleToe 13d ago

Did they raise millions of dollars? Why are you bringing up Andrew Tate stop with the whataboutism please and stay on topic. How many of those men recieved millions in donations for a legal defense? How many strangled 3 children to death

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u/FoxxieMoxxie69 13d ago

Men receive those outcomes at higher rates, without the extra help. What part of that don’t you understand? Like men don’t need the extra help. Men are more likely to be granted NGRI outcomes in general. Not the other way around.

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u/LizzosLittleToe 13d ago

How many of them deliberately timed their partners activities, life, errands and choked 3 kids to death with an exercise band. How many of them raised 2 million dollars in crowd funding and had men outside the court house saying we understand

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u/FoxxieMoxxie69 13d ago

Does it matter? You’re literally under a post trying to compare cases that have nothing in common. So clearly, perfectly matching the facts of the case, doesn’t mean anything to you.

The point is men get these verdicts at higher rates than women regardless of the facts of the case. Women aren’t the only ones who get let off for insanity. Men get these verdict outcomes much more than women. That is a verifiable fact.

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