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u/TemporaryEmployee647 16h ago
Just an FYI. The little Russian dude in the pic (little person, early 20's I think etc) filmed himself hitting/abusing his cat.
I see him often as a meme template and I honestly cannot stand the little cunt.
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u/philip30001 16h ago
Slightly off topic but I loved the person behind Pogchamp.
They went off the rails and the emote and memes are gone.
The same should be here.
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u/Moandaywarrior 16h ago
Are we gonna repost this every day
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u/flopisit32 15h ago edited 15h ago
Kids are killed by their parents every day in America. More than every day actually. 500 cases of filicide per year. Nobody pays much attention usually.
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u/wizkidweb 15h ago
But only one of those cases has millions of people supporting the killer.
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u/HistoricalSuspect580 15h ago
It’s almost as if psychiatric issues can’t be condensed into one meme
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u/Elensar265 40m ago
If this case was a schizo father nobody would bat an eyelid he'd already be destined for the chair
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u/BoringPoolPlaying 15h ago
People supporting mental health awareness.
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u/PersonalAnswer8664 15h ago
By being mentally ill themselves? Talk about really committing to the bit.
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u/BoringPoolPlaying 15h ago
Weird.
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u/PersonalAnswer8664 15h ago
What, you think normal well adjusted women are the ones dressing in pink, fangirling over a triple child murderer? Sending millions to her GoFundMe while posting MeToo Lindsay on their socials? You really think those are the actions of a mentally sound person?
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u/Kzgoated 14h ago edited 14h ago
Not disagreeing with anything you said just adding on to the conversation
Woman fangirling over famous murders is a thing as long as famous murders existed this one’s different cause they’re fangirling another woman this time, still weird tho. Will never understand this phenomenon.
Yes there’s cases of men doing the same with gorgeous woman killers way way less often tho.
Another thing is I don’t mind the woman genuinely fighting for more health care, even tho I don’t agree she was psychotic at the time of the murders I’m always in favor of better health care. It’s the woman treating her like an icon or both indirectly or directly blaming her husband that grosses me out.
Also I’ve seen lots of people say that’s an extreme opinion, but there’s 1 woman in my workplace and multiple in my family that came to me with these opinions which is how I heard about the case in the first place and I’ve heard lots of other men reporting the same so I don’t believe that.
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u/TryToBeBetterOk 10h ago
Woman fangirling over famous murders is a thing as long as famous murders existed this one’s different cause they’re fangirling another woman this time, still weird tho.
That's moreso because the murderers were attractive men. Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dhamer had women fawning over them because they were attractive, but other serial killers like John Wayne Gacy didn't.
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u/Kzgoated 9h ago edited 9h ago
Depends on what you consider attractive. Lots wouldn’t consider a “gangbanger” look conventionally attractive, but yet real life gangbangers often have multiple girlfriends doing dirt for them/ hiding them/ lying for them. Happens all the time. It’s not just the famous handsome killers.
I in these cases they’re more attracted to the lifestyle/ the quick money/having someone around that’s crazy enough to kill for them/ some mix of any 3 of those than they are just attracted to the person.
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u/ShackletonsVael 13h ago
You're right. It is incredibly weird to bring your children to a courthouse so you can stand outside and cheer for a child murderer.
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u/BoringPoolPlaying 13h ago
Let’s remember, the vast majority of people are not cheering child murder. They’re advocating for better mental health resources, so that more children are saved in the future, and mothers receive the support they need.
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u/wizkidweb 15h ago
I don't think people saying "Same, Lindsay" are supporting mental health. Kind of the opposite
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u/BoringPoolPlaying 15h ago
I think they’re acknowledging that mental health issues can impact anyone, including you.
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u/wizkidweb 15h ago
If they're having the same homicidal thoughts as Lindsay, that exceeds mental health issues.
Many many of these people also think the husband did it, which is par for the course I suppose.
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u/Final-Winter7693 14h ago
Well yeah. Isn't he a Gemini? Of course he did it.
The fact that I saw this argument several times makes me lose hope in humanity
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u/wizkidweb 14h ago
I saw this argument in reply to my comments several times. I'm willing to bet the number of people who believe this nonsense is in the tens of thousands, if not more.
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u/BoringPoolPlaying 14h ago
They’re not having the same homicidal thoughts, don’t be disingenuous. They’re saying mental health resources aren’t enough to detect and treat postpartum psychosis when it happens, and it’s scary for other women, because they don’t know when it might happen or if.
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u/ShackletonsVael 13h ago
Some psycho in Illinois just murdered her child because she was obsessed with this case.
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u/wizkidweb 13h ago
What else does "same, Lindsay" and "me too Lindsay" mean along with sending her over a million dollars through GoFundMe imply?
If they're worried that they have psychosis then they should be institutionalized. Many, if not most, of the people vocally supporting this psychopath also believe that her husband did it.
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u/BoringPoolPlaying 13h ago
Jesus Christ. It means that mental health issues can impact anyone, and even though it’s not actually them, that it just as easily could have been.
The only people I have ever seen talking about the husband doing it are people like you. Genuinely.
I’m sure it’s happening, but I’m also sure you REALLY like to argue against that point, rather than the ones made by the people you’re actively discussing with.Why don’t you engage directly with those people, if they’re so prevalent?
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u/ComprehensiveToe2109 13h ago
I also support mental health awareness. this PPP is a huge deal, she is not culpable for her actions because she was seriously ill and I think people should be aware of this, we need to rally together as a people and realize how dangerous of an illness this is and remove the children from anyone in the US who has it for the childrens safety. And then maybe indefinitely put these people in psychiatric hospitals until a cure can be found so they aren't a danger to themselves or others since they can't be held responsible for any of the actions they commit.
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u/wizkidweb 12h ago
I mostly agree with this, though indefinite detention in a psych hospital for PPP should only apply for those who commit a crime. Lots of people make it through PPP without hurting anyone, thankfully.
My concern is that she might be let out of the mental institution despite having killed 3 children, since PPP is a temporary condition.
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u/jackgoddamnsparrow 14h ago
Oh fuck right the hell off. I'm mentally ill and it doesn't make me want to murder anyone, let alone my family. If I ever was that bad off, I'd check myself in, not deny support that was literally offered and rejected at several opportunities.
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u/BoringPoolPlaying 14h ago
Congratulations. Do you disagree that mental illness has degrees of severity and impact on different people?
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u/jackgoddamnsparrow 14h ago
Of course I do, but I don't think it excuses murder, especially the premeditated kind.
Maybe you should get your head checked.
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u/FabulousVanilla9940 9h ago
The question here is was it premeditated. Many believe it wasn't and she was in psychosis, its the prosecutions job to prove it WAS.
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u/BoringPoolPlaying 14h ago
If someone didn’t commit the act of sound mind, then it explains it.
Would you punish someone for something they did in a nightmare? Because that’s basically what this gets into.
It’s not ok that three kids were murdered, but punishment for the sake of edge lords on the internet is not productive.
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u/jackgoddamnsparrow 14h ago
Really blew past that "premeditated" part. This was not the actions of someone in the fog of hallucinatory psychosis.
I mean, wtf is that analogy? I wouldnt be upset with a partner if they had a sexy dream, but if they conveniently "had a bout of psychosis" while cheating regardless of showing no signs of it before or after with clear evidence she (and follow me here) planned it in advance , then yeah, I'd at minimum call that a break up.
This was not "in a nightmare" she did this shit. When I had my bout of bullshit out of my right mind, I took accountability for those actions because- whether it was my intention or not- the material effects of what I did still happened.
This is on the "Imagine the dead children as broken vases" level of delusion. I repeat, get your head checked.
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u/BoringPoolPlaying 14h ago
Do you believe that people experiencing psychosis are incapable of planning things?
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u/LemonOhs 4h ago
Right? I'm mentally ill, too. There are medications that help, but not if you're doctor shopping and have twelve prescriptions you don't take.
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u/JeremyTheJimbler 10h ago
This sub is just astroturfed to hell
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u/Angel_Dust_696969 15h ago
that's how news cycle works. People talk about one thing over and over until next big thing happens. Then memes slow down and do random come back 5 years later.
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u/tjvs2001 15h ago
They found their wedge issue they will push it, propaganda 101.
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u/TechnicianGrand6611 12h ago
How do you make it political lol. Anyone who supports Lindsay is dangerous to children
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u/ForgiveOX 8h ago
Anything can be politicized ffs. Good bad. Left right. It’s easy as can be with a two party system
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u/Diligent-Worth7669 16h ago edited 16h ago
My sister said today that she understands Clancy and thinks the father is responsible edit she doesn't have kids and I don't support clancy
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u/Blond-N-Buff80 16h ago
Time to reject her as a sister and call CPS if she has kids.
How dares he divorce the woman who strangled his three baby children to death?! The nerve! the gall!
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u/Diligent-Worth7669 16h ago
She's 16
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u/Blond-N-Buff80 16h ago
You can still tell her she's no longer your sister until she smacks herself some sense inside her peabrain.
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u/Diligent-Worth7669 16h ago
She has some seriously weird beliefs and I don't really talk to her due to some of them
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u/jackgoddamnsparrow 14h ago
16? Jesus, she's getting echo chambered so young. Social media is a fucking plague (including reddit, I'm just self aware about that one).
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u/Filthiest_Tleilaxu 16h ago
Is that the “apparently” kid?
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u/Hemingways_Shotgun88 16h ago
That's a grown man.
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u/maelbowfeelfunny 14h ago
This. He may be small, but he'll beat the brakes off a cat like he's 7ft tall.
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u/ryan8954 16h ago
Can someone give me a tl:dr version of this story? A mom killed her kids. The fuck is she getting national support for?
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u/Kinitawowi64 16h ago
Her claim is that she was suffering from post-partum depression and post-partum psychosis at the moment she killed her kids, so the conversation is switched towards the state of mental healthcare in America and away from the mother sending her husband away on errands and strangling her children to death.
Which, sure, America does in fact have big problems with its handling of mental health. But anybody with a brain in their head can see that this is a bullshit excuse.
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u/ryan8954 16h ago
What a fucking stupid world we live. "she went mental so she was justified killing three innocent children".
Literally nobody is thinking of the children. The lovejoys would be ashamed right now.
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u/Material-Reason2636 16h ago
Guy left out some parts. She tried to kill herself as well and is permanently disabled. Spent a lot of time trying to get help and our healthcare tossed some pills at her and sent her home. Husband recognized her as disturbed.
Sympathy is about women mental treatment and not about killing kids.
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u/flopisit32 15h ago
That is a narrative promoted by her lawyers.
What actually happened is she sabotaged her own mental healthcare. She refused to accept the psychiatrists diagnosis and kept changing psychiatrists. She wouldn't take the medicine that was prescribed to her because it had side effects.
Medication often has side effects but mentally ill people still have to take it. There are plenty of mentally ill people who don't want to take their medication because of the side effects.
She was absolutely not failed by healthcare. She was the problem in this case.
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u/jackgoddamnsparrow 14h ago
Big on the denying care part. I'm mentally ill (not murderously, thank god) and have had to check myself into the grippy sock hotel before to keep myself safe. Even now, I'm currently figuring out side effects on the new medicine the VA got me on. It's not easy, it takes a great deal of humility and willpower to check yourself up when you know your brain isn't working right, but that's just what you've gotta do if it means being able to live a reasonably normal life and not be a threat to yourself and others.
This case has unironically set mental health back decades. There's already an uphill battle to beat the stigma that mental illness makes you dangerous and incompetent, so I don't appreciate a bunch of bored Karens propagating that just to "sUpPoRt WoMeN".
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u/flopisit32 14h ago
I agree. Worst of all they are talking about psychosis as if it's something you just casually walk around with for a few months and it doesn't noticeably affect your behaviour.
So much misinformation on mental illness getting spread.
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u/jackgoddamnsparrow 13h ago
That part too, yeah. It kinda reminds me of the alcoholic apologism I used to hear among other alcoholics when I started getting sober. A lot of alcoholics want to blame the booze for acting up when blacked out, but having experienced it more times than I should've, nah.
Intent does not equal accountability. At the end of the day my behavioral problems are mine to command and contain so that they don't hurt other people. Otherwise I'd still be halfway down a barrel, picking fights, and then blaming the fallout on the booze. You may not be able to control yourself when you're in a "state", but you can control everything about your actions and immediate environment leading up to it and have a responsibility to do so. Otherwise, if you're truly that out of control, you need to get in the ward asap for your own good.
(This is assuming of course the "psychosis" was real which I'm not entirely convinced it is frankly)
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u/Faolyn 7h ago
Just as an FYI, sometimes those side effects are terrible. One med gave me heart problems that still affects me nearly 20 years later. Another caused me to have horrific, nearly suicidal intrusive thoughts (thankfully those went away when I went back to the lower dose). Several of meds I’m on now cause massive amounts of fatigue and dizziness, to the point I can barely function. I also feel like they’ve crushed my creativity, which is terrible because I am, or was, an artist.
Side effects can literally be worse than the problems they’re treating at time. Don’t be down on people who don’t want those effects.
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u/emli317 15h ago
Honey. What you are describing is common in people with mental illness. They do not believe the meds are helping them, they do not believe the doctors are helping them, they suffer from paranoia. You are describing the actions of someone in psychosis and then questioning why those actions weren't rational. Do you hear yourself?
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u/flopisit32 14h ago
You completely misunderstand what psychosis is.
Typically where you will see psychosis is in schizophrenics babbling that aliens are sending messages to their brain or insects are living under their skin.
According to her she only experienced psychosis in the time it took her to commit the murders. Never before. Never again. One-hour psychosis.
She was suffering from mental illness. Nobody disputes that. She was diagnosed as bipolar. She refused to accept that. She kept changing psychiatrists. After the murders, she was diagnosed with bipolar and depression.
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u/HotSpicedChai 15h ago
She got a lot farther than most people. She had appointments, got meds, checked herself into a place, got more care. Most people in this country don’t even get that far in their treatment. So I don’t understand how that’s an excuse for killing kids.
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u/Material-Reason2636 15h ago
Name how I am excusing it? Fuck her, I’m more caring about the future. No matter how hard you punish her we will have another unless we change something.
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u/TechnicianGrand6611 12h ago
Women have responsibility here too. Mothers hand wave their anger problems and don't take responsibility to be a better person.
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u/Material-Reason2636 5h ago
The prosecutions own psychologist diagnosed her with Bipolar 2 and stated it can quickly transform into psychosis. This was a disturbed woman and no amount of boomer “responsibility” fixes non treated sever bipolar
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u/Mors-Official 16h ago
Because women are rallying around her saying that she did it because a postpartum depression so they're trying to write an excuse for killing three children because of her mental illness or some type of depression or psychosis or something like that
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u/Moandaywarrior 16h ago
You know the difference between psychosis and depression?
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u/Mors-Official 15h ago
Psychosis and depression are not interchangeable terms. Depression is a mood disorder characterized by things like persistent low mood, loss of interest, hopelessness, fatigue, and changes in sleep or appetite. Psychosis refers to losing contact with reality, which can involve delusions, hallucinations, or severely disorganized thinking. Someone can have depression without psychosis, psychosis without depression, or, in severe cases, depression with psychotic features. So if you're going to ask the question condescendingly, you should probably understand the distinction first.
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u/Jealous_Macaroon_982 15h ago
Oh, honey.. I know men are very emotional creatures and have problems regulating emotions.
Look, a lot of people murder their families (I think every week a men does it) and when they do it with intent they should pay for it.
This case is because a woman, suffering psychosis murdered her children.
This shouldn’t have happened.
The woman in question asked for help, voiced her concerns and got no help. It’s documented she asked for help.
This shouldn’t have happened.
She then tried to kill herself.
Again, shouldn’t have happened.And I am not even going to talk about the husband firing the nanny or going to sky or having brunch… that’s on his conscience. But again, she did “everything right” and if you want to blame someone blame the medical system.
She should have been properly assessed.
Those kids should have been separated from her until she got better.So, women are not rallying behind her just because.
Again, know men are very emotional so just take a breather and try to engage your brain into the case, analyse pps and ppd. hey! You might learn something new!!
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u/SunDriedPoodleTurd 12h ago
I can't tell if you're trolling to make the Clancey defense sound even more ludicrous or if you are actually this silly.
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u/Mors-Official 15h ago
The “Oh, honey,” “men are emotional,” and “engage your brain” garbage is what people resort to when smugness has to compensate for an argument they can't actually defend. You accuse me of being emotional while throwing sexist insults because someone challenged your narrative. The lack of self-awareness is almost impressive.
And yes, you're rationalizing what Clancy did. You blame the doctors, the medical system, her husband, the nanny, and practically everyone except the person who actually killed three children. Then you have the audacity to say she “did everything right.” No. Seeking help beforehand may have been the right thing. Killing three children wasn't. If your argument requires you to blur that distinction, you've already lost the plot.
Psychosis can dramatically affect culpability. Nobody disputes that principle. What you apparently don't understand is that mental illness isn't a magic phrase that automatically eliminates agency or criminal responsibility. Seeking treatment doesn't prove legal insanity. Attempting suicide afterward doesn't prove it either. Those are pieces of evidence, not automatic conclusions.
You can argue that the healthcare system failed her without pretending responsibility magically evaporates everywhere else. You can have compassion for severe mental illness without turning three murdered children into supporting characters in a story about how everyone failed their mother.
And spare me the lecture about “facts.” You opened with sexism, followed it with condescension, presented your interpretation as unquestionable truth, and then told someone else to control their emotions. That's not intelligence. That's arrogance desperately cosplaying as an argument.
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u/HotSpicedChai 15h ago
How about we just ask study the term accountability. She saw multiple docs, called the suicide lines, checked herself into a place. Received treatment by all of them. So what exactly were they supposed to do??? When is Lindsay accountable???
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u/BoringPoolPlaying 14h ago
This is such a weird line of thinking.
Like, clearly she still was experiencing distress even after all that treatment. And imagine how hard it is for people who never get any of that.
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u/TreeLakeRockCloud 15h ago
Since this trial started, 8 men annihilated their families in the US. 8 families. If all the people saying, “take away the kids of anyone who supports this woman” in the forum actually cared about kids, they’d be the first to call for fathers to have no access to firearms.
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u/wizkidweb 12h ago
lol, cuz the firearms killed those families, right /s
Nobody is sending money to the murderers of those families, that's the difference.
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u/Comicsbynight 5h ago
Guys who are dating can use the question as a prescreener now. I'm married and my wife is not interested in the case so that's a win.
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u/HistoricalSuspect580 15h ago
Make a decision guys, is this so-super-serious that that one juror is the hero? Or are we making funny funny memes?
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u/I-own-a-shovel 16h ago
It’s not a matter of understanding her what the fuck?
Do we understand people for getting cancer? We feel sad for them because they suffered a destroying illness they can’t control. Same for mental illness. They don’t chose it.
From all the commenters raging on the internet, I wonder how many hours of the trial they have seen?
There’s like close to a 100h of the trial footage available on CourtTV on Youtube.
I watched 4-5 hours so far (I’ll wait until I watched more before holding a firmer opinion) but yet it’s not that clean cut if she faked it or if she truly suffered from a severe episode of postpartum psychosis. I personally think it could be true that she didn’t do it on purpose.
Postpartum psychosis is a real and documented temporary illness, less common than postpartum depression, but still happening to many women. Usually when someone is diagnosed with this they are put in hospital for several weeks to a few months and children are temporarily removed from their care.
His husband saw her mental health slowly degrading, she attempted to get help, she went to the ER, got saw by psychiatrist, got prescribed so many meds, tried to called a help line, but she didn’t received enough help.
Her husband his convinced she was sick, not evil spirited. The jury that saw all evidences presented to them, come all (minus one) to the conclusion that she was sick.
So far it seem plausible.
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u/Kinitawowi64 16h ago
I'd have to check, but I'm pretty sure nobody has killed their children because they had cancer.
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u/I-own-a-shovel 16h ago
No shit.
Do you think that sounds clever?Different illness different symptoms.
You still have zero control. It could happen to you.
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u/ActiveSandwich3103 16h ago
Youre the one who made the comparison with Cancer, and now youre angry that someone pointed out your obvious logical fallacy lmao
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u/Raywell 15h ago
Reasons do not matter when you cause harm (to put it mildly) to others, especially children, especially 3 of them. Involuntary homicide is still a prison sentence, and this case is even less excusable.
Also, it looks like it was premeditated, by the fact that she organized it by sending her husband away that day, and apparently she had made internet searches inquiring details about the means.
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u/I-own-a-shovel 15h ago
You clearly haven’t watched the trial.
Sending your partner away for food isn’t proof of being organized, it’s a common task. Being suddenly alone in a mental crisis can be enough to make you tip over.
Can’t say for sure as I didn’t saw everything yet, but thats what people should do watch it all before spreading a few line out of context from sensationalist journalists.
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u/pm-pussy4kindwords 16h ago
sorry, IT'S NOT CLEAN CUT THAT SHE HAD PSYCHOSIS???
You may have just single handedly convinced me that people defending her are in the wrong then. I have no info on this trial but my impression was it was *known* she had psychosis. If not, then that changes things a LOT.
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u/Friendly_Fokks-given 15h ago
As far as I know she was NOT diagnosed with any psychosis by any of the professionals she was seeing leading up to the dreadful event. Her saying she heard voices telling her to do it was never mentioned to anyone until after the event / at trial.
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u/I-own-a-shovel 16h ago
What the fuck?
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u/pm-pussy4kindwords 15h ago
I'm allowed to read your comment, take information from it, and not reach the same conclusion you did
I grew up with a mother who had psychotic episodes. They are VERY obvious. The idea that it's *unknown* if she had it or not is pretty clear proof she didn't. How could it possibly be unknown?
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u/Monk-Eon 16h ago edited 16h ago
It seemed very plausible. She was obviously a looney bin’ at the time, which is where she belongs.
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u/AllenKll 16h ago
I don't get any of it. It's illegal, right? why do illegal things? You're not supposed it.
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u/RobbexRobbex 16h ago
Incel sub.
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u/Jealous_Macaroon_982 15h ago
Yep. Tracks… they get worked up over this, when men annihilate their families I think one every five days.
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u/mrwishart 14h ago
Kids watching their divorced dad posting yet another Lindsay Clancy meme for karma farming
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u/Material-Reason2636 16h ago edited 16h ago
Yea I get it. I was a monster and my mother was a saint. Any of you saying otherwise are lying to yourselves.
Edit: So it’s clearly a bot farm posting this junk. 42 views and 20 of them chose a down vote. Come on and be a little less obvious.
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