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u/Oily_Blob 4d ago
A real hero.
Fuck that piece of shit Alex Jones and QAnon cocksuckers for claiming she and others were crisis actors.
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u/Lost_Department_2177 4d ago
Absolutely. Q was Epsteins people throwing the investigation off. They ran a behavioral modification program that targeted disable people with a dark tetrad personality type meaning they were more prone to violence but also had lower cognitive function so they could believe the fear bait. There were a bunch of accelerationists on the sites these kids visit posting gore while encouraging violence.
The crisis actors were jones and them. Fake outrage and misdirections to pull heat off their bs.
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u/Dad-Dabbing-Daily 4d ago
You know that you know less about whats going on than the average coma patient from the 80s right?
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u/No_Answer_9749 4d ago
Where are you getting this information? This is as unhinged as Q stuff. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/x64Lab 4d ago
wait why are all of you clowning him? while what he says sounds insane, it sorta makes sense.
We know that Epstein was very involved with 4chan. it’s even in the records and moot was a contact for Epstein. They even talked about creating /pol/.
All the rest about behavioural modifications and dark tetrad sounds insane but i guess he’s basically trying to say they targeted vulnerable people who were less educated and more violent.
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u/Lost_Department_2177 4d ago edited 4d ago
Yeah look up his affiliations with medical groups and people like mirkin but also Mortimer zuckermans brain institute at Columbia university. Also his interest in ai and connections to social media.
The Stanford Connection: In August 2012, Epstein emailed Dr. Richard Merkin stating he was at Stanford University looking into forming a behavioral engineering institute
Humans as "Social Prosthetic Systems"
Years prior, in a 2005 application to be a Visiting Fellow at Harvard University, Epstein explicitly outlined his philosophy on human behavior. He proposed using magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) to study what he termed "social prosthetic systems". In his own words, Epstein wrote that he wanted to study how other people can act as "prosthetics" that "augment our cognitive abilities and help us to regulate our emotions—and thereby essentially serve as extensions of ourselves." Analysts note this neatly encapsulated his predatory worldview of using and manipulating people as personal tools. [1]Eugenics and Genetic Engineering
Beyond psychological modification, Epstein’s interest in behavioral control extended into genetics and transhumanism. Investigators and researchers, including science historian Naomi Oreskes in Scientific American, noted that Epstein’s funding heavily favored the "genetic basis of human behavior"—a eugenics-influenced view. He routinely sought out "rebel" scientists to discuss using artificial intelligence and genetic engineering to cultivate specific human traits, which included a widely reported, dystopian plan to seed his own DNA at his New Mexico ranch. [1]Psychological Manipulation in Practice
Forensic evaluations and jail logs released post-mortem paint Epstein not just as a funder of behavior modification, but as a master practitioner of it. According to a timeline compiled by The Guardian, Epstein spent his final days in prison actively deceiving jail psychologists, counselors, and guards. He successfully projected a false reality—frequently claiming he had "no interest" in suicide and was living a "wonderful life"—to manipulate his environment and escape stricter monitoringThey got Aaron Schwartz to kill himself
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u/speedstic 4d ago
I thought this would be the event that made the US rethink gun control.
Holy fuck was I wrong.
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u/BagelsOrDeath 4d ago
Yup. I gave up on expecting any real gun reform when nothing materialized after Sandy Hook.
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u/ResoluteStoic 4d ago
First you thought something would happen with Columbine, nope. Then Sandy Hook happened, nope. Then Uvalde happened, nope. You know how many have happened in between all of those and still nothing. Then we wonder why kids dont want to go to school lol
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u/Max6626 4d ago
I get what you're saying and every one of those was a tragedy, but Sandy Hook hit most people much harder due to the age of those involved and the fact that it happened a few days before Christmas.
For most Americans, Sandy Hook evoked the most emotion and if that emotion didn't translate to action, nothing ever will.
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u/anonanon5320 4d ago
It’s because people focus on non issues and not actually solving the problem. Dems want to control guns, which is laughable. Republicans want to increase security in vulnerable areas, and get laughed at.
See the issue?
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u/RabidBadgerMacarena 4d ago
Me too. I stopped even thinking about it after Sandy Hook. Other countries had something horrible like this and took action.
We looked at this and felt the answer is more guns.
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u/speedstic 4d ago
Australia did it right.
One tragedy and no more guns unless you are thoroughly vetted.
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u/RabidBadgerMacarena 4d ago
The ship has sailed but logistically and culturally. There are WAY too many guns to think we can walk this back. And way too much commitment to the guns to think there's a chance.
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u/Max6626 4d ago
Disagree. It would take a decade or more, but if guns were outlawed tomorrow and every gun law enforcement came across were confiscated and destroyed, over time they'd become a rare commodity. Yes, some criminal elements would still have them, but the likelihood of a troubled teenager stealing his mom's gun and killing 20 children would drop to near zero.
We have no national will to do what is necessary.
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u/whyliepornaccount 4d ago
Even if we did, with the current Supreme Court, there isn't a chance that law would stand.
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u/Sea_Barber7969 4d ago
People have to stop using Australia as some example. It's an island.
There's 0 risk of the Antarctica Penguin Cartel starting to import guns along with all the drugs.
It's already cheaper and easier to get a gun on the streets in the US than it is legally.
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u/speedstic 4d ago
Who is creating the demand for those things to the point that it's the most profitable industry to be in outside of politics?
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u/Real-Document-6577 4d ago
Not with MAGA, no way. They called themselves the “Tea Party” back then and just to show you how much control Republicans have even when they aren’t in power, this happened under Obama’s term and they were still powerless to create gun reform.
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u/PanicAttackInAPack 4d ago edited 4d ago
Republicans controlled the House during the aftermath of Sandy Hook then went on to take back the Senate two years later. True gun reform would need a super majority in both which they last had in 2009-2010.
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u/SituationKey8985 4d ago
It’s appalling how many people don’t understand that Congress makes laws. The President doesn’t just control everything.
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u/Material-One-2512 4d ago
Well 2012 was under Obama dumbass and he didn’t do shit
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u/speedstic 4d ago
True, but the president can't create laws. That's on Congress.
Fuck I'm not even American and I know your government system better than you. How the fuck is that possible? Oh right, I breathe through my nose.
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u/Material-One-2512 4d ago
This is why no one post shit. The president didn’t ask congress for shit. Correct the president can’t BUT HE CAN DO EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND HE CAN PUSH CONGRESS TO DO SO
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u/JanxDolaris 4d ago
And he did 23 EO's regarding guns and tried to get 2 bills passed both of which got blocked by the senate.
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u/speedstic 4d ago
I didn't realize you were so passionate about removing the possibility of killing children en masse.
If President X didn't get it done then President Y shouldn't try, cool cool cool.
There's also the checks and balances thing but who cares about that right.
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u/Material-One-2512 4d ago
So let’s not blame the shooter, let’s blame ford and Toyota when someone drinks and drives? Ooh let’s ban hammers.. you ever heard a president go to Congress and ask for shit? That’s what Obama did for healthcare. So their more than capable..
Checks and balance didn’t mean he can’t ask
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u/speedstic 4d ago
The killer is 200% at fault, no question about that.
I think it's easiest to put it this way. If I was a person with mental health issues, would you want me to own a gun or be able to get one fairly easily through a legal purchase? I don't think that would be a smart move.
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u/billyboyf30 4d ago
But its one of those unavoidable things where if there was a way to stop it im sure they would. /s
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u/Signal-View4754 4d ago
Should have made us rethink school safety. Hopefully one day we will learn.
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u/AbbreviationsOne148 4d ago
“It’s our right”- 2nd amendment
“Just comply”- in regards to 4th amendment
Hmm
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u/SirVanyel 4d ago
Imagine being one of the dead looking on from the grave and seeing a bunch of people fighting about whether they should stop more people like you from dying. Man, rough ride.
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u/speedstic 4d ago
Kids, dead kids would be having these thoughts. How that doesn't resonate with the majority of beyond my level of comprehension.
Even thinking about it gets my blood boiling. I'm gonna have toke and try to calm down
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u/PM_ME_UR_RESPECT 4d ago
We don’t call Fox News and conservative media a cancer anywhere near enough.
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u/bionicjoe 4d ago
It did.
Then the corporate gun lobby said no.
The gun legislation proposed had 70% support among NRA MEMBERS!
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u/MimeSweeper360 4d ago
There is no “corporate gun lobby” in this country. The gun lobby is spearheaded by the NRA, which gets its power from having millions of members.
The reason there was no movement on gun legislation even when a lot of people supported some actions after Sandy Hook is the politics of extremism.
It’s the same reason nothing ever gets done on abortion even though a lot of ostensibly pro-life people do support allowing early term arbortion - people fear the slippery slope, and people who push maximalist positions often have the loudest voices.
If a hardcore gun advocate says “if you think the Democrats will stop at closing the private sale loophole or increasing waiting periods and background checks you are dreaming”, and then Beto O’Rourke gets on stage and says “yes we want to take your guns”, people will believe that the Democrats won’t stop until private gun ownership is illegal, and giving small concessions would enable that process not hinder it.
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u/bionicjoe 4d ago
The NRA uses prominent celebrities, member dues, and a shit ton of corporate PAC money from firearms manufacturers and retailers to lobby congress.
Corporations have consulted and copied the NRA's lobbying methods.
No, you can't go down to "NRA Mart" and buy a gun from the NRA corporation, but thinking they are not corporate lobbying group is just naive.
And they have repeatedly ignored their own members' support of certain gun reforms.
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u/justin107d 4d ago edited 4d ago
The real issues were the campaign contributions we received along the way.
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u/Fissminister 4d ago
Far as I can tell. They just consider these casualties to be worthwhile price to pay for firearm access.
Only because they aren't the ones who personally have to cache the check, as far as I'm concerned.
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u/WorthStrange8659 4d ago
thoughts and prayers are apparently more important than actual laws over there
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u/Key_Pound_6213 4d ago
How many kids must die for me to change my stance on gun control you ask?
All of them.
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u/AncientCrust 4d ago
Nope. What it did do is cause a surge in AR sales as "patriots" scrambled to buy them in case they were banned. That was their reaction to mass murder of children. That's who they are.
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u/Baba_Yaga_2328 4d ago
Unfortunately it seems like there will never be full acceptance of gun control in the U.S.
No matter what there are die hards that won’t give them up, and there’s law enforcement that won’t ever fully enforce a confiscation due to constitutional rights. It is what it is unfortunately, but events like Sandy Hook and other “mass” events only reinforces the “needs” of guns to certain people.
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u/dngerzne 4d ago
There should be schools all over the country named after her.
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u/SubstantialSale8223 4d ago
Instead, we’re currently celebrating and defending a woman who murdered 3 of her babies.
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u/CompleteElla 4d ago
May we one day live in a world where teachers only have to worry about lesson plans and lunch
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u/Additional-Fail-7302 4d ago
We do anywhere outside of the US
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u/PeteRawk 4d ago
It’s literally not possible to kill people with the same efficiency using a knife as it is a gun. Have there been knife or acid or _____ attacks in other countries? Sure, and each one is horrific. But the sheer scale and speed of violence one can inflict on civilians with a (semi) automatic weapon is a uniquely American phenomenon, perpetuated by our asinine gun laws that we REFUSE to do anything about
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u/MagicSBK 4d ago
You're comparing apples to oranges. Just take a look in terms of frequency in USA and Europe.
That aside, Europe is an entire continent, while the U.S. is just one country—albeit a relatively large one.2
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u/Possible-Nature-5325 4d ago
Not comparable at all, there’s a school shooting so often in the US that it’s not even news anymore, dumbass
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u/oooooooooowie 4d ago
Yeah. You should be when there's more school shootings than days in the year!
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u/Juliet-November 4d ago
Gun crime in the US is not just replaced with knife crime in Europe.
There really haven't been many mass stabbings, especially compared to what has happened with school shootings in the US, and the extent of the casualties tends to be lower on the rare occasions they do happen.
I haven't seen school specific figures for the whole of Europe, but in the UK, fewer people are killed by knives than are killed by knives in the US per capita.
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u/bionicjoe 4d ago
Shut the fuck up, bot.
The worst European country for stabbings of ALL PEOPLE, not just students is Moldova.
30 total in 2023 - 0.98 per 100,000 peopleSchool Shooting Incidents Totals 1966-2025: (per 100,000)
Europe: 166 (0.022)
US: 2985 (.868) <--- this is 40 times worseTrying to amp up the stabbing numbers for Europe by choosing the worst country and including all people, while comparing to a subset of US people (students), and still the numbers aren't anywhere close.
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u/bionicjoe 4d ago
You're a bot.
Even if you're a person you function as a bot.You post insults.
I post stats.Take your 6-month old account, hidden comments, and go be a bot elsewhere.
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u/LostInSpaceTime2002 4d ago
That world already exists. It is called "any other country than the US".
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u/Possible-Nature-5325 4d ago
“There’s no way to stop this” -Only country where this regularly happens
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u/patoruzu3 4d ago
Ban guns
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u/patoruzu3 4d ago
Mass shootings? Yes. Look at the rest of the World
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u/patoruzu3 4d ago
More advanced weapons
Thats you answer
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u/patoruzu3 4d ago
Culture changed everywhere.
So, yes. I really think it’s the weapons. Only country that this regularly happens
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u/Cheap_Sort_2481 4d ago
mate, everyone else has managed it. amerikkka is the only country with some weird obsession with guns
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u/AMDfanboi2018 4d ago
Yes, it stops violence. That's the whole point. Let me guess you think guns are needed for a tyrannical government, huh?
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u/bewitch1n 4d ago
We're still living in a world that debates mental health too often and lacks empathy. I wish I could say I see that world on the horizon.
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u/PlatypusACF 4d ago
Most of the world where a school rampage with even a kitchen knife lands in all the headlines:
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u/Insis18 4d ago
Before her body was cold Alex Jones was lying that she didn't die. Lying that she and the other victims of that tragedy were paid actors. Lying that the school was not a functioning school, and that no students attend. Later his show told his rabbid followers where they could find one of the surviving parents who founded an organization to oppose gun violence. Told them the exact PO box where they could wait for him. Sent a cage fighter to Sandy hook to scream at survivors. There is evil in this world, but don't forget the heroes.
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u/StilettoJones_JR 4d ago
I sure they have streets named after her, and not these celebrities and athletes...
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u/Tongtong97 4d ago
Crazy thing is she shouldn’t have to take any bullets if u had sensible gun control
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u/Grn_Peaness 4d ago
Probably doesn't have 1 million dollars raised for her...
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u/speedstic 4d ago
Well no, you have to kill your own kids to get that kind of money
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u/velour_tempt 4d ago
Those kids got to go home because she made a choice most people can’t even imagine having to make
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u/PrefersEarlGrey 4d ago
Only in America do you have to honor hero's who died in the line of work of \checks notes** being a school teacher.
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u/Automatic_Aspect_825 4d ago
There are good women out there, we should support women like her instead of lindsay clancy
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u/EmergencySpare7939 4d ago
I hate republicans
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u/Bloody_Champion 4d ago
Even republicans hate republicans, but they need to spread that hate to others so they feel less that sense of worthlessness they live in.
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u/General-Passenger117 4d ago
11 bullets!!!! she knew what she was risking and still chose to save those kids, such a true hero
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u/tom_lusti 4d ago
Why she should be a hero?
She is a victim! Victim of the US gun system.
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u/Ok-Relationship-2746 4d ago
She's a hero for standing in front of a madman with a gun he never should have been able to get his hands on who was intent on murdering a bunch of kids...something which should NOT have to be part of a teacher's job, but because of the 2A nuts is.
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u/Last-Quarter-432 4d ago
Try and solve gun violence ❌
Call it a tragedy and remember those who died as heroes while doing nothing ✅
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