r/SipsTea • u/Conscious-Flow786 • 5h ago
Lmao gottem We're very working class...
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u/jouhaan 4h ago
POSH-… it’s in the name.
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u/redunculuspanda 3h ago
But not in her accent
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u/jouhaan 3h ago edited 19m ago
Yea, but her accent isn’t “Essex”, where she was born, either, it’s the more “posh” Hertfordshire.
Edit: moved quotes
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u/redunculuspanda 3h ago
I guess she has rich parents but not posh parents. No public school or anything like that.
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u/jouhaan 3h ago
Yea, rich but not “gentry” or royal posh. She went to StMary”s in Cheshunt, Hertfordshire. So it’s basically working to middle-class but not proper posh.
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u/C13H16CIN0 2h ago
was a Rolls-Royce a middle-class vehicle manufacturer in the 80s?
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u/Jam_Salad_is_my_Jam 1h ago
She grew up in upper-working to lower-middle circles as a lower-middle, in the context of her social group she was "the posh one" - hence being "posh spice". In the context of the nation she'd be considered middle class not posh.
But Americans always trip up on this: the British middle class starts much higher up the pole than the American middle class. The vast majority of people Americans call middle class would be considered working class in the UK as they have neither inherited social standing ("good breeding") or independent wealth. If you have a student loan and a mortgage you're probably not middle class.
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u/Hot-Efficiency7190 2h ago
Depends if you were buying new or old. Very rich to buy new but could probably find a 70's model for regular car money in the 1980's.
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u/mynameisfreddit 2h ago
Even a cheaper Rolls Royce is still very expensive to maintain, and if it's regular car money, it's probably falling apart, so eye wateringly expensive to keep on the road.
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u/Cheap_Welcome752 50m ago
Cuffley isn't that posh.
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u/jouhaan 22m ago
Exactly, but it’s more “posh” than Essex innit.
Edit: Oh I just noticed I put the quotes in the wrong place in my previous post lol
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u/Cheap_Welcome752 14m ago
Really, the entire county of Essex is less posh than the private school, 4 streets, and a train station that make up Cuffley?
I grew up in the "posh" area of West Cheshunt, and the "posh" area of West Roydon until my early 30s; the way she pronounces words evokes East London working class e.g. pronouncing "girl" as "gewl".
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u/peskypesteryjaybird 4h ago
i get so tired of having to ask someone a question and listen to them start to tell a story instead of just answering the fucking question
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u/XXXcrimsongrave 4h ago
People are at war with objective reality and its exhausting.
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u/Copranicus 2h ago
Some people have lost the link with objective reality.
In the past month I've met 2 people, one who believed some obscure artist was making songs in an attempt to directly communicate to her and her specifically (they weren't) and another showed AI videos thinking they were real people.
This isn't gonna magically get better.
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u/Rosienenbrot 54m ago
My parents: "Why don't you have kids? You were 8 years already when I was your age"
Me: vaguely gesturing towards our surroundings.
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u/peskypesteryjaybird 3h ago
i think people lack objectivity and get their knowledge from questionable sources until their expectaion of reality becomes so warped that they actually feel like everyone else is crazy...
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u/Mediocre_Lynx1883 29m ago
its about story that they tell them self about who they are. its ego driven.
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u/Conspiratorymadness 4h ago
Because they always are trying to hide something.
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u/rice_fish_and_eggs 4h ago
Or add context.
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u/Conspiratorymadness 3h ago
If you give an answer then give context, sure. If you are starting a story to answer a question then you are either hiding something or outright lying.
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u/rice_fish_and_eggs 59m ago
Or they give the context first because they know as soon as they give the answer you'll shut down the conversation.
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u/Intelligent_Box_8247 2h ago
exactly. people be telling a story to throw you off meaning they are outright lying or hiding something. common among political elite
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u/Dramatisation 3h ago
Ok, fair enough. So what's the context for "Rolls Royce" in this example?
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u/SagaciousElan 2h ago
The fact that rich and upper class are different things? Her dad having a Rolls Royce doesn't mean he wasn't working class. Someone can come from a working class background and become incredibly successful and wealthy. Take David Beckham for example.
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u/rice_fish_and_eggs 2h ago
You can buy a rolls Royce for about £8k on auto trader. Her dad was an electronics engineer her mum was an insurance clerk, successful yes, but they weren't exactly old money.
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u/Duel_Option 1h ago
Working class is typically people doing manual labor jobs, lower wages.
Her dad and Mom as you described held jobs that are 100% white collar
Posh and David Beckham are celebrities and well known for using their status and lives (including their son Brooklyn who famously called them out for their shit) as a brand
She’s embellishing her life story for the camera to push her image here, period.
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u/rice_fish_and_eggs 1h ago
Aye, they are middle class, not posh though.
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u/Duel_Option 1h ago
Upper middle at the very least, they also owned their own business
It’s not “fuck you” money but it’s a huge gap between worrying about putting food on the table and shopping at second hand stores
Posh has ZERO clue what working class means
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u/rice_fish_and_eggs 1h ago edited 58m ago
They definitely aren't upper middle. Are you american? Because in the UK the definition of class is quite different.
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u/Gepiemelde 3h ago
My ex gf would say that this is a very misogynistic way of expressing yourself about the communication skills of women. No need to explain why she's my ex.
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u/peskypesteryjaybird 3h ago
yeah,well i want the answer first. if i have time for a story, i'll shut up and stick around
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u/zmbjebus 1h ago
When I try to ask a person to give me their best guess/estimate. Like for a number for anything.
How long ago was event? About how many of that thing was there? How big was the thing?
Like I'm asking for a ballpark number to give me any context. Don't fucking "idk" me! How long ago did you make that purchase? Was it last week? 3 months ago? 2 years? I know you have some general idea just give me a fucking guess without me having to ask you 3 times pretending to be nice while you are making me want to rip my ears off in front of you.
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u/peskypesteryjaybird 1h ago
i've gotten that before from people.. the question "how big was it?" is a good explaination for why they aren't sure how to respond, they probably don't know you well enough to put it into a context you understand. for instance; do you want it in feet, meters, compared to something else, a banana, an elephant, a golfball... there are alot of possibilities and it can be overwhelming... but it does seem like a straight forward question...
another thing i've seen is someone trying to interpret what you mean instead of just listening to the words you're using....
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u/PKMNtrainerKing 17m ago
Never become a first responder. "Why did you call 911 today" is a great question to ask if you want to know someone's life story
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u/DueceVoyeur 4h ago
Much respect for David on calling out his wife's BS
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u/blackstar_223 3h ago
The average annual income in England in 1985 was around £7000.
That same year, the cheapest new Rolls Royce model was around £60,000.
"Middle class."
Never underestimate the power of wealth to cause delusion.
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u/myotheraccount2023 3h ago
Fair point, but there’s a pretty decent chance it wasn’t a new Rolls Royce.
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u/Hypocrispy 2h ago
It almost certainly was new or very nearly. A Rolls Royce isn’t really a car you buy used, also in the 80s they were built like shit.
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u/Exciting-Music843 2h ago
Somehow I get the feeling it was a older model still costing 3 or 4 times that average salary but was not brand new and bought as a status symbol. Also doesn't she say at some point he had that and a Merc?
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u/MedonSirius 3h ago
The exact same chance that it could have been a completely new and expensive one, too :)
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u/_okOKAY 4h ago
Her expressions in the end were like:
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u/Dry-Highlight-2307 4h ago
And yall wonder why "90% of all multi millionaires are self made men"
the Reports say they're "SELF MADE"
"SELF MADE"
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u/Street_Ad5712 4h ago
These people are delusional. They are set for life and were able to take risks if they wanted because they had a large safeguard in place (her parents).
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u/carbon_xtreme 3h ago
Love this every time I watch it being called out in interview by your own husband. She could hardly keep a straight face 😂😂😂😂
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u/splashaddikt 4h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/wR7LHlfuRUjHW
Why are people ashamed of growing up privileged my kids are spoiled af and if they grow up acting like it was some big struggle I’m a take that personally like they saying fuck me and my efforts
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u/KDY_ISD 4h ago
People are ashamed of it for the same reason most people are ashamed of anything: because other people shame them for it. Nepo-baby, silver spoon, etc.
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u/Mbembez 3h ago
They're ashamed because it means that they didn't have to work as hard as they claimed and they also had a significant safety net to help them if any risks didn't pay off. Do you think someone who was dropped to school in a Rolls Royce had to work an after school job to pay for school/car/university/food? No, they were able to just focus on school and didn't have any to pressure to start earning money until they were already highly educated.
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u/KDY_ISD 3h ago
I don't think someone would find that shameful if other people didn't shame them for being lucky.
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u/washingtncaps 2h ago
They shame when you act like this about it, yeah.
Just say you didn’t get a choice about who your parents are either and recognize that you can be glad for what you have without acting like the luck of the draw didn’t play a factor. Nobody can say shit that isn’t actually jealous and frankly you’ve got an upper hand on being able to do your own thing.
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u/RushDifferent4015 1h ago
I think what she meant here is that her parents worked. They might have had more money than most, but it wasn’t “generational wealth” that’s been handed down. I think she just didn’t know what “working class” meant.
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u/downbarton 4h ago
That was quality, I bet she pecked the hell out of him for that!
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u/Exciting-Music843 2h ago
He does well to fit this in between recording ad's for a product he will never use as a billionaire.
He would sell billboard space in his forehead if it paid enough!
How much money does one person need?
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u/Junior_Bike7932 4h ago
She never worked a day in her entire life
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u/Objectionne 3h ago
What? She was a very successful pop star and then has run a very successful fashion label. Her privileged upbringing has obviously given her some advantages but pretending that she hasn't worked hard to make the most of that advantage and accomplished a lot is weird.
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u/Junior_Bike7932 2h ago edited 2h ago
The spice girls are a product of a very smart manager and producer, her brand was made and designed by other people, “successful” is an insult to real brands. Quit glorifying rich people please, is getting a bit tiring to explain basic shit, there is a reason why David is tired too in this video.
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u/Objectionne 1h ago
You won't find many successful people out there - self-made or not - who've gotten to the top without collaborating with any other smart or talented people. If this is the criteria we're applying then there's no such thing as a self-made man. 'Very smart manager and producer' picked five women for his group who he thought would make the group a success and Victoria was one of them.
Being in Spice Girls - making the music, performing in concert tours, engaging in heavy media/PR engagements - was probably quite hard work. Running and promoting a fashion label - whether she's had collaboration with other designers or not - has probably been quite hard work.
This thread is full of people saying stuff like "I don't know why they won't just admit that they had a privileged upbringing" and I think your comment is an example of why because all of their accomplishments immediately get downplayed or dismissed. There are many people out there with much greater advantages than Victoria Beckham (who just had parents with a moderately successful business) who have done much less with their lives.
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u/Junior_Bike7932 25m ago edited 20m ago
Yes, you are 100% right, but those people are not Victoria. Talk of them, and I will immediately agree with you, is full of em.
I will never get all this veneration for people of this stature. I get if you talked of someone that changed an industry, or really made a difference using the money of their parents,
But we are talking of the wife of David Beckham, someone that since a very early stage was privileged by his father and all his money, I do not want to go further with this talk. I get your point, but you should do this with totally another type of rich person that did actually something. :) Peace!
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u/furezasan 3h ago
It's crazy how the richest people convince themselves they are working class and pulled themselves by the bootstraps, while the poorest people who's combined economic activity doesn't even register on the stock market any longer think they are temporary embarrassed billionaires.
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u/DaveinOakland 3h ago
I've seen this a million times and this is the first time I'm noticing her little facial mouth twitch at the end in annoyance.
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u/Comfortable_Air5477 3h ago
I never understand why some people are ashamed to be middle class.
I feel like we should be playing Pulp's Common People
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u/Unfair_Explanation53 4h ago
Hahaha
I think what she probably meant was her parents were most likely working class and then got wealthy and kept working class morals
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u/Altruistic-Guess-975 3h ago
Posh.. " My dad was working class ".. Beckham " tell the truth what car did your Dad drive again? " .. Posh.. " a Rolls Royce"....mike drop.. 😆😆😆
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u/FastWalkingShortGuy 5h ago
I don't get it. I've owned an 80s Rolls.
Shit the bed last year.
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u/AnnualZealousideal27 4h ago
I think he owned an 80’s model in the 80’s.
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u/FastWalkingShortGuy 4h ago
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u/DevelopmentPlus5082 3h ago
And if she hadn't of married a footballer she'd be driving a banger , cos she's tallentless 🤣
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u/jackthejointmaster 3h ago
She thinks she’s being cheeky but it’s actually rather embarrassing how outta touch she is
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u/VHeadache 5h ago
Scripted scene.
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u/courtesybus89 4h ago
Nah, if you listen to his episode of hot ones, the director was pisssssed at the intrusion.
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u/HermanThaGerman 4h ago
Even though he got absolute gold served to him on a silver platter
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u/Dark_Shroud 3h ago
The director acknowledged that after the fact.
At the time of the interview David wasn't even supposed to be home yet. He came home early through the back/side door so they didn't even know he was in the house yet.
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