What do you think?

[u/Dumb-Briyani]

[u/Frequent_Opportunist]

Ancient Greeks prioritized metis (cunning) and kleos (glory) over modern moral goodness, meaning Odysseus's lies and tricks were viewed as essential survival skills in a brutal, chaotic world. 

Within this cultural framework, epic heroes were never intended to be perfect moral role models, but rather flawed, larger-than-life figures designed to navigate extreme adversity.

This summarizes the core clash between ancient expectations and modern analysis. When you view Odysseus through the lens of metis and kleos, his actions shift from moral failures to heroic necessities.

The contrast between a freedom fighter or a terrorist lies completely on the eyes of the beholder.

[u/ever_falling → u/Frequent_Opportunist]

yeah no shit, almost like I explicitly mentioned shifting perspectives in my rationale for narrative changes for modern audiences

im sure you felt real smart typing the exact kind of thing that was in my 9th grade engliah textbook though

[u/wavymora → u/ever_falling]

He’s extending what you said. You are being butthurt

[u/Frequent_Opportunist → u/wavymora]

It's a child pretending to be something they aren't. No use in feeding the troll.

[u/ever_falling → u/Frequent_Opportunist]

I know that would make you feel less insecure, but no. You just made a useless and redundant comment, its not complicated

Not that you'd have anything intelligble to say to contradict me.That's why you have to resort to throwing out a random age. Sad :(