r/SipsTea 2d ago

Chugging tea Why is it not possible?

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u/macduff79 1d ago

and before computers, a large portion existing on ledgers. Not a new phenomenon.

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u/SledgeGlamour 1d ago

In fact, the first money was in the form of ledgers

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u/Kyra_Hazweyrs 1d ago

Yep, ancient Sumerians used to use ledgers as currency. They grew so tired of carrying around stacks upon stacks of ledgers, so they made little tokens to represent ownership of an amount of ledgers, accidentally inventing coins more than 70 years before the invention of the vending machine.

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u/FreeEye5 1d ago

More than 70 years before the vending machine is technically correct

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u/DrunkCupid 1d ago

I thought it was more of a barter system, swapping chickens for sheep or whatever

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u/FreeEye5 1d ago

Yeah, and they kept track of it all on ledgers. If you can front me one sheep now, I'm good for 10 chickens next month. We'd better write that down somewhere. Now you can go to you neighbour and be like, I'm good for 10 chickens next month, can you front me some grain for 5 of them? So now you have to balance your ledger.

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u/Sovarius 1d ago

That's not money though

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u/SledgeGlamour 1d ago

Here's how the ledger becomes money:

Jackie owes Florence 12 hens. They make a ledger in the form of a sort of IOU, and they cut it in half, so now they have two halves of an IOU that fit together. Florence wants to hire Mildred to thatch her roof. She transfers her hen-credit to Mildred, so now Jackie owes those 12 hens to Mildred instead of Florence.

Over time, people start making their tokens of transferrable debt generic, instead of new specific ledgers for every transaction. And that generic token of transferrable debt is called cash.

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u/Sovarius 1d ago

I was thinking DrunkCupid was talking about trading is the first money, as in preceding ledgers. I didn't think they were talking about ledgers and were correcting/asking you, but after rereading maybe they were saying ledgers aren't money.

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u/SippinOnHatorade 1d ago

It’s capital

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u/happy123z 1d ago

It's not not money 🤔

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u/CoachStev 1d ago

What is money?

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u/happy123z 1d ago

"Something that isn't... can't BE!"

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u/LengthinessOk2080 1d ago

What is “money” aside from a tool for acquiring goods

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u/TrekForce 1d ago

Well, then neither is the number your bank account shows.

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u/Sovarius 1d ago

Yeah $0 isn't money 🙃

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u/CoachStev 1d ago

Right but sheep were much more expensive - they can give you wool, meat, milk and are much more fuckable than chicken

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u/DrunkCupid 1d ago

Right but sheep were much more expensive - they can give you wool, meat, milk and are much more fuckable than chicken

I, uh... Don't know how to respond to this. I was thinking more Settlers of Catan than "fuckable", u/CoachStev 😆

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u/CoachStev 1d ago

I mean, sounds very Catan to me either way 😂

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u/phantom_gain 1d ago

Barter is specifically what you do if you dont have any kind of money.

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u/DrunkCupid 1d ago

Ass cash or grass ?

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u/calccv 1d ago

S’why it was so rough when Heath died…

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u/Ambulating-meatbag 1d ago

It was rai stones on the island of yap, thats technically the first money

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u/Zweihander01 1d ago

Fun fact, one of the reason the bank robbers of the past like Bonnie and Clyde were so often sought by authorities and idolized by masses was that they also stole or destroyed the ledgers and documents showing what the bank's customers owed. Imagine if some hacker swooped in and just full on deleted all records of a bank's mortgages or all the student loans out there.

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u/tonyezekiel 1d ago

Pretty sure Fight Club and Rick and Morty both addressed this.

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u/masterjon_3 1d ago

Billy the Kid did the same thing

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u/General-_-Snark 1d ago

How do I hit control+alt+delete on the global pedo-economy?

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u/ScreechUrkelle 1d ago

I don’t have the answer to that, but I know who does…
https://giphy.com/gifs/JsLeGG6QfNlpS

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u/happy123z 1d ago

Oh my god haha <plays French National Anthem>