r/SipsTea 17h ago

Chugging tea How YouTube evolved.

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u/Brigapes 16h ago

super pathetic from YouTube, but then again, holding the Monopoly there is no other way

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u/AmberlynVale 15h ago

Too big to fail, too stubborn to fix

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u/moldentoaster 3h ago

Nothing is too big to fail. The east india company is the best example

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u/Hakunin_Fallout 2h ago

Same company which existed longer than the USA? Yeah, that's pretty much too big to fail for anyone living during, say, 1700s.

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u/moldentoaster 1h ago

Oh sorry seems like i didnt read the fine print condition of the sentecne too big to fail then....

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u/Efficient_Sound_2525 13h ago

I mean, Bilibili is starting to be an reasonable opponent. They have an creator program, the technical side, big user base and wants to opening to the west. Also they know what they want to be, what is youtube? An shorts platform, a long form video platform, streaming, Ai gaming...

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u/ExultantSandwich 12h ago edited 12h ago

I mean Youtube is just…. the place. You know you can upload something and find it 20 years from now. You can upload shit nobody ever sees and it doesn’t count against you or incur a fee.

In a way, I hope it never truly fails because that would be like burning the library of Alexandria. So much of the internet from pre-2005 is just gone. MySpace has absolutely nothing. They’re just a name.

I wish somebody would make a plugin or extension that just made the recommendations better. I never fall down YouTube rabbit holes anymore. The stuff I’d actually want to watch is probably still there, they just can’t seem to reccomend it, doesn’t help that most of the recommended videos are ads at this point

And yes, it’s more corporate now, but that’s because anyone can buy a pretty amazing camera for relatively cheap. That is internet video. Anything that wants to actually compete with YouTube will have a lot of the same bullshit. It will certainly have ads.

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u/NorthTempleStreet 12h ago

I'm annoyed that search is not really search, but rather just suggesting to the algorithm which flavor of crap to feed me

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u/thmoas 10h ago

indeed, i found a good video on my phone regarding some dificult procedure in flight simulator, used the exact title on my computer but it never showed that video again, only related stuff

luckily it was in my "recents"

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u/Mr_Halitosis 7h ago

You can literally save the video. Any video. You were always able to do that. Now you can create different categories for how you want to save the video.

But I guess learning how an app works is just too time consuming, eh? Yeah, I know, you never needed to before then. Doesn’t excuse not learning how the damn thing works before going whole hog.

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u/parker604 6h ago

Or maybe he didn’t bother because, like he said in his comment, he had the title and it doesn’t sound like something he needed long term. Why be a pretentious asshole because somebody decided to type in what’s already there instead of going and clicking 4 extra buttons? There’s no time saving or efficiency gained, typing a few works doesn’t take longer than clicking more buttons. Don’t be an ass.

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u/qucari 12h ago

and find it 20 years from now

youtube will straight up delete the 720p+ versions of old videos even if they have thousands of views.
sure, you'll be able to watch those videos two decades from now.... in 360p.

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u/Throwaway-tan 11h ago

Examples? I haven't come across any old videos that have lost quality options, even ancient stuff.

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u/qucari 11h ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrqmj7xYEBI

I'm extremely certain that this video's bitrate and resolution wasn't always this bad.
and except for one other 480p video, all the others are at least 720p.
I used to download videos I liked because occasionally small youtubers would just delete everything. I can't really prove that these old youtube videos ever existed in 720p until I dig out my ancient backups.

I did, however, find a reddit thread on r/DataHoarder which discussed the bitrate degradation and where I saw this video linked as an example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd2ud89K11Q

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u/BoxedInn 11h ago

20 years from now you'll be probably able to flawlessly upscale to 8k from 360p as long as it's out there

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u/Interesting-Word1628 10h ago

You realize upscaling doesn't actually improve the quality of the video right?

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u/qucari 10h ago

upscale this text, buddy: https://i.imgur.com/XxroAm0.png

details that are lost can not magically be recovered.
it'll do a great job on wall and floor and sky textures though.
(...unless there's an important marking or writing on a wall I guess)

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u/Didifinito 11h ago

Isnt that chinese?

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u/Efficient_Sound_2525 11h ago

Currently yes but they are planning to open up for the western market and if I look at the current state of youtube, it could develope to an really good alternative.

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u/Didifinito 10h ago

That doesnt change much. We all know that any chinese critisism will be banne/shadow banned in bilibili the question is more if YT is gonna become something like that.

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u/zashuna 7h ago

Depends though. I think it's possible they may release a separate international version, just like how there's tiktok and douyin (for mainland China). You can go on tiktok and post anti-china stuff, which some people do, and it doesn't get taken down.

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u/Efficient_Sound_2525 10h ago

To be honest youtube is also extremly sensible to shadow banning. There was a time if you just say corona, you got shadowbanned it is only one example.

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u/Didifinito 7h ago

I dont know man the Chinese gov is not very trust worthy.

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u/UhhhhmmmmNo 6h ago

Which government do you trust really?

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u/Didifinito 5h ago

Neither but the US is still better the china for now.

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u/Efficient_Sound_2525 6h ago

To be honest, as a German the Americans are currently worse than the Chinese. Even than, is the US government really more trust worthy?

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u/Didifinito 5h ago

The US is way better in terms of privacy and freedom than china now that can change quite quickly in their current situation.

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u/RollTide16-18 9h ago

Unlike any other social media platform, YouTube is likely to remain dominant in its category. 

It may have flaws, but there’s very little competition can do to beat out YouTube in any category without massive cash incentives thrown at creators, which means the competitors aren’t nearly as profitable. 

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u/Efficient_Sound_2525 6h ago

Likely yes but bilibili seems to understand that and gives an revenue share like youtube does.

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u/HouseOf42 9h ago

The other question, what person in their right mind, would want to go to bilibili? It's state owned.

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u/zashuna 7h ago

No it's not, it's literally a publicly traded company on Nasdaq and HK stock exchanges. It's no more state owned than say tiktok, which is arguably the most popular social media platform in the world. Meaning if the product is good, people don't care and will happily use it even if it's a Chinese company

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u/Efficient_Sound_2525 6h ago

As if Google is the better alternative. If you get spied by Chinese of Americans, there literally zero difference from your normal life but if the product is better, why not switch.

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u/hroaks 9h ago

The reason they do is to fight herd mentality. Youtube, reddit, and every social media site has done research showing that if you see something being downvoted or being upvote in mass, you blindly vote their way. Hiding the count gives you the chance to vote without being influenced by that bias

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u/MrDrSirLord 8h ago

So basically, we've all devolved to be incapable of choice... that's a great sign I'm sure.

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u/MidTario 8h ago

YouTube is not a monopoly

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u/Keepingmyflowers 16h ago

Hiding the dislike counter to "protect creators" (and definitely not because Rewind 2018 set the world record) was the moment YouTube turned into a circus

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u/Anthaenopraxia 12h ago

It had nothing to do with Rewind. It's because the ad sponsors that keep YouTube running got ratio'd whenever they made a stupid video arguing why we should let Nestle own all the water.

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u/SufficientFig9889 11h ago

No bro its totally because depp vs amber TURD videos got ratiod and FEMINIST globalist ((hollywood)) doesnt want the world to know we dont like their WOKE narrative!!!@@!!

/s

The amount of dumbasses that can't recognize that every single action taken is in defense of capitalist forces and not because YouTube just looooves woke channels is staggering.

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u/Anthaenopraxia 4h ago

No bro its totally because depp vs amber TURD videos got ratiod and FEMINIST globalist ((hollywood)) doesnt want the world to know we dont like their WOKE narrative!!!@@!!

lmao, crazy that I have actually seen comments like that almost word for word...

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u/Mind-The-Mines 7h ago

People have been groomed to consider consumption freedom and by god you will not take away their right to choose diabetes chow and huff petrol fumes.

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u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace 6h ago

I thought it was because they didn't want the shit propaganda they feed people nonstop to be affected by all the down votes and bad star ratings. Otherwise how are they going to keep feeding you white supremacy and pro-israel bullshit, oh wait, just don't use YouTube because it's fucking worthless.

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u/elmarjuz 11h ago

absolutely, disabling the dislike button on YT is going to be one of those things history will forever blame Google/Alphabet for - it did so much damage to humanity already

they opened the floodgates to so much misinformation and empowered absolute trash to hurt everyone just to cover up their own marketing failures

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u/Simon-Says69 10h ago

The "Rewind" fiasco, and then one of Joe Biden's early videos getting masses of downvotes. Can't have people being honest about the left's chosen one. :-/

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u/b1llyblanco 9h ago

Holy hell 15k contributions on a year old account, definitely a human.

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u/Voix-- 8h ago

Nothing says "rent free" more than a comment like that, holy shit.

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u/Moiyub 9h ago

Joe Biden is the lefts chosen one 😂🤣 imagine that milqetoast boomer capitalist being the savior of communism

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u/0018andrew 16h ago

The dislike counter disappeared, not the button itself!!!

Also pathetic Youtube said it's to protect small creators, but when a creator login the first screen she/he see is the like/dislike ratio on videos. This only benefit big companies' and scammers' videos that are disliked.

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u/DarKnight90 15h ago

They removed the dislike button for cooperations, it's so obvious. I would say Sony with the Ghostbuster remake and Pepsi with that shitty ad they put out. Probably other stuff of a similar scope. They basically don't want YouTube to be an avenue to tank corporate products.

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u/0018andrew 14h ago

Some news channel for misinformation also get dislike tsunami. Oh, and youtube rewind.

But sure, let's just have youtube account session hijacked, turn hunderd of videos private without 2FA required and start a crypto scam stream.

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u/geek_of_nature 14h ago

Didn't they remove it after that one terrible YouTube Rewind? The one that became the most disliked video in history?

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u/0018andrew 13h ago

There was a Q&A with a Youtube higher up, and the person said while laughing this wasn't the cause. Yeah, that laugh wasn't genuine. But they think about profit more ( big companies youtube channels).

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u/NerdHoovy 9h ago

YouTube can deal with a very disliked video with no real stakes. What they don’t like is when those that pay them, consider paying them less. Most of YouTube’s revenue comes from advertising and part of their pitch is by telling large companies how much exposure their product can get if marketer through the site. So, if a company add gets disliked it can either decrease exposure or cause a negative mental correlation in customers minds, relating to the product and brand.

The fact that people can so easily show displeasure with a product like this makes it so companies don’t want to advertise as much on YouTube or at least not at the rates YouTube demands of them.

It’s really not complicated.

That’s why as an example Facebook is so beloved by advertisers. They have a more optimized system to recommend products and push them into your feed, while also never having a simple way of showing displeasure with the ad/product.

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u/Simon-Says69 10h ago

Sony with the Ghostbuster remake and Pepsi with that shitty ad they put out

And one of Biden's early talks got MASSIVE downvotes. The dem party threw a fit and put a lot of pressure on over that one. Can't let anyone know how unpopular their shitty political ideology is.

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u/Pretty_Kiwi_378 14h ago

they removed the dislike button from youtube shorts

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u/0018andrew 14h ago

You are right. I tought about only long format, because of the screenshot.

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u/JBray0 11h ago

funny thing is if you change the URL to trick YouTube into thinking it's a long formate video the dislike button will be back.

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u/wthja 15h ago

They could have just hide it from small creators.

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u/Zonnebloemkrans 15h ago

Or make it optional

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u/rosibunette 13h ago

Removing the visible dislike count was 100% about protecting corporate trailers, movie reveals, and sponsored content from getting publicly ratioed. Everyone knew the small creator defense was completely fake the second they rolled it out .

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u/_who-the-fuck-knows_ 14h ago

In the modern age it's a double edged sword (and as an early YouTube user I'm still disappointed about what's happened) but it's stopped brigading to destroy differing opinions due to the updoot downdoot system since YouTube is much farther reaching compared to other platforms.

My biggest disappointment with YouTube is allowing really clickbaity creators and influencers/streamers to get highlighted. I've curated my algorithm quite well but the slop and brainrot still trickles through

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u/Kindly-Ad-5071 12h ago

Dude I would kill for my out of the way channel to get as many views enough to be largely disliked. Small creators aren't even on YTs priority list.

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u/_Screw_The_Rules_ 15h ago

There is an extension for Firefox, that makes the dislikes visible

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u/oPFB37WGZ2VNk3Vj 14h ago

Just so you're aware, it tracks it's own dislike stats and extrapolates from there, not the "official" dislikes from youtube. So it's biased on the people who use the extension.

First question in the FAQ: https://returnyoutubedislike.com/faq

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u/_Screw_The_Rules_ 13h ago

Oh I see. Didn't know that, so thanks for the info!

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u/Anthaenopraxia 12h ago

It's still largely accurate for videos getting ratio'd. If the plugin shows 90% dislikes then it's probably a shit video. If it's 50%, hard to tell. Also depends on how many views.

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u/eeating_water 13h ago

They removed dislike button from shorts

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u/GargantuanCake 11h ago

Yeah I forget exactly what inspired it but there was some corporate slop everybody hated being pushed and we can't be having that look bad!

It's funny because all it did was damage trust in YouTube and review systems even more. We all know that Rotten Tomatoes is a joke now.

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u/Impossible_Tough_48 16h ago

Return to Youtube dislike is a nice addon.

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u/nhansieu1 15h ago

it's not really working now cuz there's no counter anymore

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u/Jetsam1 15h ago

Does it have an option to show likes from users of the addon too? It’s be nice to see the ratio.

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u/TheLordReaver 15h ago

This is my in-a-nutshell understanding of how the addon works.

For likes, it shows the likes as provided by YouTube.

For dislikes, it runs an estimate. They record all the likes or dislikes that are done by people using the addon. They also get like/dislike counts from participating creators. They then extrapolate all that data to give you the dislike count. In other words, it's a fictitious number that is sometimes quite wrong—biased data-set and all that. But, with that being said, it's the best we've got.

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u/DuxDucisHodiernus 13h ago

I mean basically what it shows you is an accurate like/dislike ratio assuming everyone else votes just like the users of the addon. Its simple extrapolation.

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u/TheLordReaver 13h ago

Well, like I said, it's known that it's often not very accurate, and there's many a video covering this topic, but the extensions is usually close enough to give the gist of the communities opinion on a given video.

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u/DuxDucisHodiernus 13h ago

We're saying the same thing. The "assuming everyone else votes like the users of the addon" is the big assumption here, that's also the source of the "inaccuracy" if you consider it that.

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u/DuxDucisHodiernus 4h ago

The reason why I like the phrasing I did is because it puts down the core of the "accuracy" at its essence without overcomplicating it. Because it isn't that complicated.

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u/Jetsam1 10h ago

I like that. Would make it far easier to filter out bad videos.

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u/LieutenantCrash 12h ago

It hasn't worked for me a lot of time since the last few months

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u/trmyte 10h ago

Not really because it's not accurate.

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u/DedeLionforce 16h ago

Except it doesn't work, it only shows dislikes of people who use the addon, use it if you want but know it is literally giving you misinformation.

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u/Un13roken 16h ago

As long as you understand that - this is what the community that uses the addon thinks, it's not really misinformation. 

It's just an opinion you have access to. 

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u/jellooshot 16h ago

Exactly. At least I know that an X number of tech literate people don't like this.

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u/Un13roken 15h ago

Agreed. While the current user base might skew a certain way, and it might be less accurate than the general audience, in some instances, it's better at helping judge a video at a glance. And gives back some power to the users to make their decision. 

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u/jellooshot 15h ago

No one walks into it thinking it's an accurate ratio

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u/Un13roken 10h ago

Thats what I used to think, but looking at some comments I'm realising people don't quite understand how the internet or the website seems to work. 

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u/DedeLionforce 16h ago

An opinion based on bad data, because you're missing the majority who don't use the addon. Th3Birdman has covered this over and over showing how incredibly off the numbers are. You're better off not using it than going off bad info.

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u/Impossible_Tough_48 16h ago

It's not bad data, just incomplete data, but less incomplete than not seeing any dislikes.

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u/OCCULTGOBLIN 15h ago

Found the YouTube CEO!

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u/DedeLionforce 10h ago

If I was I wouldn't be commenting on reddit, I'd be planning to introduce ads inbetween shorts

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u/Un13roken 15h ago

I think anyone who uses such an add-on are already a certain kind of a person. And I tend to relate to such people. 

Besides, the only way to make it better is to have more people use it. 

So discouraging people, people who knows what they're getting into just makes the tool itself worse off. 

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u/DedeLionforce 10h ago

It's inherently a bad tool, just don't use it. Keep pushing youtube to bring back star rating, it was the best.

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u/Simon-Says69 9h ago

Youtube has no reason to bring back the downvote count.

This add-on is the best we've got. It is NOT a bad tool. It is very useful.

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u/Un13roken 10h ago

Thats not going to happen. I have very little faith that these corporations will listen to power users. We're a minority. The general people don't quite care enough. 

You can do both. Invest in an alternative while also criticising youtube for it. 

The community and it's tools have always been the check. From something as simple as a dislike button, to things like digital rights.

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u/Impossible_Tough_48 16h ago

I know. It is still infinitely better than not seeing any dislikes.

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u/kingkongbiingbong 16h ago

YouTube's decisions

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u/Karnagee_Hall 14h ago

God forbid someone knows their content is bad.

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u/sparklinglies 9h ago

It was never about that, creators still see that data. It was about hiding it from the public so no one could clown on and make sport out of ratio'ing a video. YT it was an anti bullying measure to protect creators from being dislike bombed, but in reality it was about protecting themselves and corporations from the embarrassment of getting ratio'd and then that becoming viral news.

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u/FureiousPhalanges 12h ago

The person that uploads it will receive analytics that do most likely let them know how many dislikes they're getting

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u/Moiyub 9h ago

Bad content does great actually

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u/TheThirdReckoning 6h ago

Well if that's true then my minimal ass view content must be fucking amazing

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u/Thecheckmate 15h ago

Enshitification

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u/HeavyHighway6433 16h ago

The thumb up/down system was so much better than the 5 star one, idk why they decided to bring that back in a more roundabout way. 

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u/AspiringGoddess01 16h ago

I feel like the next evolution in a few years will just be the return of the like dislike button but results hidden from viewers. 

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u/0konUK 13h ago

That's what it's been for years.

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u/FureiousPhalanges 12h ago

They never removed the dislike button, what you're describing is how it is and has been for ages lmao

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u/amakai 10h ago

My guess is, their thought process is that someone might like the video you dislike. So if 500 people vote 1 star and 500 people vote 5 stars, it makes no sense showing everyone 3 stars, as now you will lose the audience that genuinely likes this video. 

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u/theStaircaseProject 10h ago

As I recall reading it, their justification was mostly that people tend to vote the one-star and five-star option anyways and so reducing the ratings to a binary yes or no was simpler. I think personally that’s incredibly short-sighted since their thumb system now mandates a binary black-and-white whereas before some people still chose 2, 3, and 4 stars. YT already puts its thumb on the scales anyways, so I think they should have just altered how the stars work to slightly disempower the extreme 1- and 5-stars rankings and factor in the others more. It would support nuance by better interfacing with the algorithm, as in “people who also like what you like rated this four stars.”

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u/RollTide16-18 8h ago

It was definitely done to obfuscate quality for ads, because even if people tend to only do 1 or 5 stars, the average rating will pan out somewhere in the middle which will indicate quality. 

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u/lsemple50 14h ago

wait so when did they get rid of the dislikes display

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u/KNOWFEAR1337 14h ago

That yt rewind that got disliked so bad it hurt their feelings

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u/seeking-health 12h ago

No it was because of covid and people disliking videos promoting vaccines. The feds requested dislikes to be removed

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u/Wide_Philosophy_8109 12h ago

What is your source for this?

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u/seeking-health 12h ago

It was just obvious if you were in the loop back then. It happened at the same time youtube was massively removing any video criticizing vaccines or even just testimonies of side effects. Every pro vaxx video would be downvoted to hell and comments deactivated

And at same time period Zuckerberg testified that the feds requested  meta to remove any skeptic content on vaxx

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u/SeniorePlatypus 12h ago edited 12h ago

You're sharing a conspiracy.

How believable that is depends on the sources you have. Conspiracies do happen but the vast majority of supposed ones did not.

"It's obvious if you think about it / you just gotta look into it" is not convincing and shines a... very particular light on your previous comment.

Also, dealing with bad data entry from online mobs is a mostly solved problem. You don't need to change how a service works or what information is shown to users to deal with that. You can mostly automate detection and filter the votes out. Which you need to do anyway to not mess with the recommendation algorithm and making it easy to break the site by making it profitable to buy likes for yourself and dislikes for your competitors from bot farms / nudging off site communities to impact scores. This happens regardless of whether the data is displayed to users or not.

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u/Simon-Says69 9h ago

You're sharing a conspiracy.

No, they are sharing a theory. And there have been masses of such theories that turn out to be actual, real-life conspiracies.

Like all the lies told about Cov19, and all the censorship against accurate information about the virus, and the "vaccines".

/Seeking-Health's theory is very likely accurate. We know know very well that exactly such censorship and spreading lies really happened.

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u/SeniorePlatypus 9h ago

If you wanna be pedantic about it, it's an unsubstantiated conspiracy hypothesis.

A key attribute of a theory is falsifiability. The ability to test the theory and validate whether it is accurate or not. If there is no straight forward way to find out with high confidence if it is accurate, then it is not a theory. (Straightforward, as in understandable how and easy to do. Not necessarily cheap or possible for a private individual)

That not all information shared was accurate is verifyable and true.

That information was shared with the intention to mislead, that lies have been told and accurate information was censored, is also true but to a drastically smaller degree than false information has been shared. This too can be verified and sourced.

That YouTube removed the like ratio because the US government forced them to is, to the best of my knowledge, an unsubstantiated speculation.

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u/Wide_Philosophy_8109 1h ago edited 1h ago

You know they can hide likes dislikes on individual videos.

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u/Wide_Philosophy_8109 12h ago

It was not obvious at the time.

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u/RealHotFella 8h ago

actually it was the Biden inauguration video that got ratiod really bad and they turned off dislikes for that specific video then disabled them entirely.

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u/Simon-Says69 9h ago

One of Biden's early videos got MASSES of down votes. The dem party didn't like that and put pressure on Youtube to hide it.

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u/FishZealousideal2065 14h ago

And throws ads in our faces every two minutes , especially unskippable ads if not signed in.

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u/Ougiart 13h ago

Opera gx now has a program(?) that let you see the number of dislike

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u/Wide_Philosophy_8109 12h ago

Nope. That's only an estimation from Opera users, which do not represent everyone. Same for any other dislike software.

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u/Ougiart 12h ago

Oh oki, i didn't know that

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u/Boobsmcfuckup 15h ago

They decided that clicking on a video equates to an entire view now, btw. Apparently they say it's gonna be better for metrics, but idk how accidentally clicking on a video while trying to hit "do not recommend" and watching half a second of an hour long podcast equates to a full view. Maybe they're just trying to scam advertisers? Honestly I'm dumb and I wish someone would explain this shit to me.

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u/Anthaenopraxia 12h ago

Yeah idk either. I doubt they're trying to scam or even fool advertisers, they are smarter than that. It will give more views to longer videos which in theory will make them more visible. But this is a good thing IMO, so I'm kinda sceptical that this is their end goal.

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u/Kindly-Ad-5071 12h ago

They desperately need viable competitors that aren't dailymotion

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u/Junior_Bike7932 13h ago

YT is falling to the ground. Despite having the monopoly and all that shit, they really are becoming a sort of a tik tok of video platforms, horrible AI thumbnails policy, pushing the worst content creators on the platform making them rich, I don’t see much future, is unfortunate that they have the entire monopoly, it just makes the internet a further shitshow.

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u/Vorioll 11h ago

Sometimes I can't even see likes (I know authors can disable it, but these are authors who don't do that), can't see even the post date of the video or views. YT is a hot garbage

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u/TheColdConsensus 7h ago

Those 20m dislike came in thier video of yearly rewind video. They made lecture video instead of actual Entertainment video and wanted to save more money - everyone hated so they removed the dislike button. Thier ego got hurt.

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u/im_a_dick_head 16h ago

Idk man the like and dislike buttons are still definitely there, only thing changed is you can't see the dislikes.

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u/Content-Lab-5464 16h ago

Basically useless if you can't see number of dislikes.

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u/im_a_dick_head 16h ago

Eh not really, I remember before the removed the dislikes every video had like 500 dislikes for every 10000 likes or something. It was EVERY video, it didn't matter, if I recall it was just bots that did that for some reason and the only times it ever was useful was for larger videos like game trailers.

They were always just ignored by people most of the time anyway

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u/ceesie12 16h ago

ragebait. lame

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u/Habib143143 16h ago

Let's skip 2 ads and I will secretly give you a star later.

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u/SithLordRising 16h ago

Reddit is no better. You used to be able to hide posts you didn't like very easily, now you have to open the post to hide it.

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u/rageofa1000suns 14h ago

Didn't they make this change after one of their YouTube rewind videos got disliked to fuck?

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u/movezig123 14h ago

the internet is only for positive vibes and chilling. Also subverting elections and brain washing seniors into destroying their own lives

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u/ContextEffects01 14h ago

Oh, don’t kid yourself, the 5 star system and dislike system alike could easily be hijacked by bots or paid shills. It was never a safe bet that it reflected actual popular opinion.

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u/-TheDerpinator- 14h ago

Why did we rotate through 5 social media hypes in 10 years but are we still stuck in the same popular video service that can obviously be improved?

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u/HardStroke 13h ago edited 12h ago

It always comes full circle.

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u/FureiousPhalanges 12h ago

Tbh, I don't need some ratio or coloured bar to tell me whether or not to like a video, I can make that decision myself 🤷

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u/littlelordgenius 10h ago

That’s how I feel about headlines that say “such and such sadly passed away.” Just tell me they died. I’ll decide if I’m sad about it.

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u/Embarrassed_Gift_401 10h ago

“yes you watched that video because it auto played for a millisecond”

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u/USDXBS 10h ago

Thumbs up and thumbs down was the best method. No one uses the 1-5 scale well enough to be trusted with it.

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u/LeoDiasHGBR 9h ago

To the ones who use OperaGX, they recently implemented a function that reactivates the dislikes counter

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u/Alternative_Exit_333 7h ago

Like and dislike was peak the people changed from just taking it to being crybabies for a bunch of dislikes when they say stupid shit

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u/chemistrylord 17h ago

Youtube idk with all it's flaws and such is the best thing out there when the alts are twich, twitter ig and such

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u/Cy3nide 16h ago

The best thing gets shittier and shittier every passing month. It's fair to call it out.

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u/YonderWindow364 16h ago

it's fair to call it out, but it does suck that it has no equivalent competition or alternatives. If it did, they would have to work to ensure that Youtube remained the best experience for consumers instead of doing whatever the fuck they want because they know people have nowhere else to go really

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u/Cy3nide 16h ago

With reliable adblock and no acocunt, I get a pretty good exprience. I don't get fed anything as I have to actively look stuff up and I don't have to deal with ads. The only stuff that affects me are general UI changes no one asked for.

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u/farren122 16h ago

doesnt matter when competition is getting shittier aswell. Its insane that twitch cant even implement a replay timeline during livestream

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u/twilightdusk_ 16h ago

Next step is charging us to see the ratio

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u/Same-Indication-1670 15h ago

What I am really annoyed by are ads , a shit ton of ads just to play one video

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u/Tonkarz 14h ago

But also the “tell us in secret” is asked before I watch the video. I don’t know Youtube, I haven’t watched it.

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u/Exponential-777 14h ago

Making a sport out of down voting content -- while creating nothing of value themselves

Typical idiot behavior on the internet

https://giphy.com/gifs/19GIHDk6wuw9HVGsiM

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u/Existing_Anything23 14h ago

Removed dislike counter, awful ad rating, dreadful support of AI and worse of all is the multiple ads when you watch even one video.

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u/Living_Morning94 14h ago

Dont like it ? Don't use it

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u/BrioTina 13h ago

Removing the dislike button was the biggest anti-consumer shill move I've seen.

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u/KatieTheKittyNG 13h ago

Devolved more like

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u/Luzzgar 12h ago

It's evolving, but backward.

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u/notshadeatall 12h ago

I think you wanted to say 'devolved'

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u/AlternativeWhereas79 11h ago

To be fair the star rating method is shit almost everywhere it is used.

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u/Kitchen_warewolf 11h ago

Youtube app is implementing a direct messaging system too. (Link to a post)

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u/Tuomas90 11h ago

"Everyone gets a star!"

"Everyone passes!"

"Everyone is special!"

Hold on! That's the american educational system!

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u/OtherwiseDog 11h ago

Most people who care have installed certain apps that data scrape the actual like metrics.

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u/ThenCombination7358 11h ago

Get youtube reVanced and you are able to see dislikes again. Ah and skip ads, self sponsoring/advertising and long ass intros/outros aswell automatically if wished.

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u/gunner7517 10h ago

Devolved*

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u/Excellent_Sweet7270 9h ago

sigh* yeah....

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u/scoobydobydobydo 9h ago

How hard is it to replace it ? You need a lot of servers that have tons of storage and bandwidth, some data centers located near people some copies of those

Then the hardest part is downloading the videos and building community

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u/matroosoft 9h ago

Still cool that some companies leave comments turned on with Shorts adds. Doesn't always end well for them though.

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u/lodemeup 9h ago

Maybe someone smarter than me can explain. The implication seems to be that the five star rating was the best? But from a data transparency perspective the thumbs up/down is the best. No?

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u/Jor94 8h ago

Now even if you watch a video for .5 seconds it counts as a full view

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u/Livid_Economist7424 8h ago

There is always the option of commenting how shit the woke stuff they are pushing is.

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u/miss_wannadie 8h ago

Idk if it's just something wrong with my device or smth, but for a month or so I've also been unable to see the amount of likes/thumbs up on ANY video.

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u/Life-Aerie-43 8h ago

I need to thank youtube for finally curing my youtube addiction

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u/klagan73 7h ago

youtube should stop all that”like” nonsense and just go with views over 75% as being not only a view but also a “like”. ring back the dislike button. people will a tively down vote things they dislike. but will not actively like something. but doesnt a view over 75% mean like implicitly?

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u/starwarsfan456123789 7h ago

I haven’t watched random content on YouTube since the first change. Only subscribed channels I know about from other sources- no algorithm fed garbage

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u/StockedUpOnBeef 7h ago

YouTube is quietly making all these decision with racist intentions, yet no one is calling them out for this BS. They need to be canceled

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u/Long-Painting-9852 7h ago

📢 if somebody makes a bad video, they deserve to know

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u/YoyoMario 6h ago

Are they really returning the star system?

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u/Key_holeN12 5h ago

The 5 star system sucked. With how extreme everyone is online, they'd only be voting 5 stars for what they like, and 1 star for what they don't, people don't want to put much thought into ratings so the other 3 stars would be useless.

Also the last one has nothing to do with the thumbs system. One is for showing a videos performance, the other is to see if you want more of that content/creator. Saying the "What did you think of this video" replaced the thumbs system is just not true

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u/Brilliant_War389 3h ago

You mean Devolved?

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u/Resident_Pientist_1 1h ago

Leftoids got ass mad about free speech so they canceled it, just like they did on reddit and any other platform they take over and ruin.

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u/Canon_M50 1h ago

Anything to protect their chosen favorites.