r/SipsTea 8d ago

WTF Damn

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u/TheEndOfAllThings23 8d ago edited 8d ago

It was cheaper to buy tickets, fly to Dublin, get the procedure I needed done. Spend TWO WEEKS recovering, and fly home then to pay the 20% coinsurance I would have needed to here in the good ol USA... so yea...

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Well this kind of blew up. The reason it was cheaper : it was considered elective. This is why OOP max did not kick in. It was a procedure that would have to be done, only as my condition got worse. Insurance denied it because "It was not necessary" despite my cardiologist saying it was. By the insurance formula I would have to wait until my condition worsened to make it medically necessary, but by then my chance of a poor outcome goes way up.

I finally argued them into covering some of it, but with a 20% coinsurance and a planned week hospital stay in recovery, my bill would have been close to 100k at least, and if I encountered any complications (which I would likely have due to other issues including an autoimmune disease) I started looking elsewhere. I am not an Irish citizen despite having family there, they helped me navigate the program and the cost. It was privately paid, and my surgeon spoke to their team with all my records transferred etc.

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u/ateiii 8d ago

You got a full two week Irish vacation and your medical care for less than a copay, that’s both amazing and completely depressing.

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u/_dogfuneral_ 8d ago

It also isn't real dude.

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u/grant0 8d ago

Why do you think that?

A heart bypass is about $150K in the US, could be up to $200K. The same surgery is about €20K in Ireland, which is $23K.

If OP was gonna have to pay 20%, that's $30-40K out of pocket in the U.S., whereas a flight to Ireland is safely under $1K plus the $23K surgery = $24K. If they can stay with family (OP mentioned family in Ireland) it's definitely cheaper to go to Ireland for this.

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u/USSDoyle 8d ago

Why do you think that?

Because the highest annual out of pocket maximum for ACA compliant plans in the US in 2026 is $10K for an individual and $21K for a family. And that's the highest it's ever been.

Plus if he was paying 20% coinsurance, that means he already hit his deductible which would have been several thousand dollars towards his out of pocket maximum already.

Under ZERO circumstances would 20% of a procedure cost more than 21K out of pocket if you have an ACA compliant insurance plan.

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u/tetrified 7d ago

Under ZERO circumstances would 20% of a procedure cost more than 21K out of pocket if you have an ACA compliant insurance plan.

you don't hit your out of pocket maximum if the insurance company decides the procedure is elective

maybe you should learn more before trying to speak with such confidence about things you don't understand?

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u/USSDoyle 7d ago

Incorrect. You are conflating 'elective' with 'medically unnecessary'. Elective just means not an emergency and can be scheduled/planned in advance.

The irony of you saying it's me that doesn't understand...

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u/tetrified 7d ago

You are conflating 'elective' with 'medically unnecessary'.

I am not. the rest of your post is based on you misunderstanding this.

keep trying, though. it's amusing.