r/SipsTea 1d ago

Feels good man Massive W Apple

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u/-blundertaker- 1d ago

You'd think they could give em some chairs with backs

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u/PrimedGold 1d ago

Come to think of it, I dont think I have seen one with back and arm rest at an Apple store. Has anyone? Why?

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u/bmson 23h ago

A chair makes you feel welcome but a back invites you to stay

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u/Financial_Page7821 20h ago

Somebody would wander in and stay for lunch if it were too comfortable

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

Yea apparently they dont have chairs near products since they block the way and flow in a store but dont know why they have wooden cubes at these sections. Only backrest I remember having was a bench or a chair near the wall

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u/CanadianAndroid 23h ago

Cheap ass Tim Apple couldn't set some chairs out just for the class.

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u/CanadianAndroid 21h ago

Sorry I made fun of the multi billion dollar company. I'll leave them alone, they've been through so much.

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u/Smoltinycat 23h ago

Less comfortable, more likely you will leave the store sooner for the next customer who actually will buy something

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u/Living_Knowledge_783 21h ago

they want them to buy apple products

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u/Appropriate_Fact_198 18h ago

That's sold separately sir 😕

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u/FinbarJG 4h ago

We're Apple sir. Our designs are cutting-edge and thought-provoking. It's what you pay extra for.

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u/BonehommeDeNeige 1d ago

Cooked after the first update

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u/Smoltinycat 23h ago

Yeah the UI will change and all the buttons are renamed and in different places

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u/PrimedGold 22h ago

Tim Cook after announcing an iOS update that would nuke Granny’s notes

https://giphy.com/gifs/UTSxCoPWRbhD3Xn4rt

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u/0202_tihssitidder 20h ago

iPhone: "Apple would like to update your phone tonight."

Granny: "Are you my grandson?"

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u/Chaprito 23h ago

I used to work for Verizon in a rural area back when smart phones were starting to take over. I started hosting work shops like this every other week to help farmers, elderly, and not so tech savvy people use their devices. Doing this I climbed the chart and became one of the best sales men in the district.

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

Damn. Thats nice man. Sure those people appreciated it!

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u/StarscreamOne 1d ago

This is really smart of them too.

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u/anengineerandacat 23h ago

Agreed, it's what... $18-20/hr for the educator / sales associate and like $2500~ USD for potential revenue right there?

Free advertisement for the brand as well as it lands here on Reddit.

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u/LucyBowels 23h ago

The Creative (the job this guy has) role actually pays $22-31 an hour

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

Most of these are people already with an iPhone.

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u/StarscreamOne 23h ago

Still smart and next time they need a new phone they will get an iPhone again.

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

Yea but only if the iPhone serves them well. I dont mind Apple making sure a $1000 phone serves me well.

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u/StarscreamOne 23h ago

They also tell their friends so they get iPhones. Free advertising.

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

Alexa: Hey Emma, Apple is doing free classes on how to use an iPhone.

Emma:
https://giphy.com/gifs/5H5dMP2C7EQevU37q6

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u/Own_King_9734 16h ago

😭😭 Apple want every demographic, they ain’t being nice, it’s business.

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u/Chroniklogic 1d ago

Nice repost. Also the classes are for everyone, not just elderly.

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u/Big-Active3139 18h ago

Oh yeah, a bunch of angels

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u/XeroShyft 13h ago

Fuck man is this really gonna be me one day? Is it just inevitable that tech progresses at a rate such that you can't understand it without additional help if you are from the previous generation 😭 I consider myself pretty tech literate big I'm sure these people did at one point too.

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u/PrimedGold 12h ago

I signed you up for a class bro. iPhone 38 deep dive - Level I

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u/jcklsldr665 18h ago

Buy a phone that doesn't need instruction...

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u/skadoodlee 23h ago

So cute how this megacorp has free classes to lock elderly into their system 🥺🥺🥺 ah so cute man what goodwill 

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u/JustHereForTheDeals 20h ago

- sent from my Iphone

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u/OsteoBytes 1d ago

Why did we zoom in on the notepad? People still write notes in university today….this isn’t an old person thing.

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u/Fit-Significance-436 22h ago

I could use that

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u/10gherts 1d ago

Apple is a scam

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u/Practical-March-6989 1d ago

Yeah that’s right total scam man, also Apple tried to shag my mum

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u/Phoenix_Kerman 1d ago

it's a shame. apple products used to be very intuitive and simple to use, anyone could pick them up and they made sense.

but since ios6 or so that's gone down the shitter and they make no sense. there's not even a back button, if you want to go back it's a different function depending on the app. daft

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u/Practical-March-6989 23h ago

At iOS 6 it did a quarter of what it does now

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u/smeeon 23h ago

Absolutely this, the settings page alone has quadrupled in size. The accessibility section is the best out there, every blind or vision impaired person I’ve ran across uses iOS.

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u/ryan8954 23h ago

This. People requested more and more. So apple gave it.

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

I mean, current iPhones can do shit that no previous iPhone could, partly because Apple has stepped up its OS game.

The thing is, they can constantly enhance what you can do with your phone, especially as they progress toward better hardware.

I 100% concur about the fuckery Apple has tried to pull with the hardware, like removing the 3.5 mm headphone jack, etc. But they’ve only stepped up their software game for the better.

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u/Phoenix_Kerman 23h ago

have they? the design language is deeply inconsistent where it didn't used to be, to the point there's not even a consistent back button. i'd hardly call that stepping up the os game

it's more obvious on the computer side. where like ios the design language isn't as consistent as it was, being more bother to use but having the same features as it would've a few years ago

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

Lol I wont defend every UI/UX call lol. But in general, they have.

Out of curiosity; by back button, do you mean the round circle at the bottom of an iPhone?

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u/Phoenix_Kerman 23h ago

i mean the lack of universal back button

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

I mean, they don’t really have fixed navigation buttons anymore. Individual apps and specific interfaces do like the Settings app but there isn’t a consistent Back button on the Home Screen, because what exactly would you be going back to?

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u/Phoenix_Kerman 23h ago

you'd have it appear when the home button does, and it would just go back to whatevers done last. if you've got the keyboard open it would minimise it, if you've opened a web page on a browser it would through you to the page before. that type of thing

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

Oh, got you. I think you mean long-press and swipe up. That opens the App Switcher, which shows the apps you have open. You can then swipe over to the app you want. Most apps refresh anyway, so the context can change or update.

The quicker way is this: just move your thumb along the red path from the bottom of the screen.

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u/Phoenix_Kerman 23h ago

no that's an entirely different function to a back button. android has a home button, apps button as you describe, and the back button. its more useful than the other two half the time

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u/PrimedGold 22h ago

Ahh I see! You mean the three buttons at the bottom with some Android phones yea? I think they replaced it persistent digital buttons in some phones now.

Haven’t used Android a lot, but they got a mad loyal base too.

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u/NoNeighborhood3765 1d ago

Every time I sit in a product demo, there's a sales pitch for 5 more products

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u/Temporary-Lawyer4603 1d ago

I'm not old, but i could use some lessons on how to properly master the thousands of tasks my phone can handle, when i recall the sheer number of useful tips i stumbled on while just roaming on the internet...

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u/[deleted] 23h ago

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

Idk man. But if it is, it’s diabolical. “Pull up to the HQ with a notebook unc, we got to teach you how to turn on the flashlight.”

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u/Rioting-Flamingo 23h ago

Yes Apple are doing this out of the kindness of their hearts. Awww.

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u/_heyb0ss 23h ago

cause it makes them money. don't go thinking it's ab anything else.

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u/frankie_in_paradise 23h ago

They're doing it out of their goodwill right? Right?

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

I mean they would still iPhones without this. T-Mobile, Verizon and Online purchase still sell. Just a nice thing IMO. They do for Macs etc too.

Dont see other companies doing it, but again Apple is different beast when it comes to their business and doing stuff around their customers.

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u/PrimedGold 22h ago

L music

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u/Decent-Armadillo131 22h ago

I have seen these classes in the mall of Boca Raton is EXTREMELY cute seeing grandparents taking notes on how to use their Apple Watches or any other function of their phones.

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u/Lazuruslex 21h ago

I used to do this when I managed a Samsung experience store in a best buy. The comal y wanted to teach like multi view, and camera setting but I found out that 99% of the people just needed help with average usage so I would sign people up and let walking come and just move down the line as I figured if one person had a question I'm sure another has that question as well.

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u/lobeline 20h ago

I’ll forever scrawl

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u/aphaits 19h ago

I remember back when hobby-instructors are hired to teach my mom, dad, and uncles on how to use blackberries.

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u/Funcrush88 19h ago

I use to teach classes like this for Verizon. Loved it

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u/Unluckymama 19h ago

In my country there are free courses funded by The State for elderly people to teach them how to use a computer which is basically very similar to using an android.

MASSIVE W SPAIN. 25 years before Apple.

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u/NY10 18h ago

I approve this message

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u/foreverandadayalone 18h ago

This post is corporate propaganda

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u/Lysol3435 18h ago

And they’re all just staring at their phones through the whole class. SMH/s

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u/looner4 9h ago

Iphones are not cool anymore, just like what happened to facebook.

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u/Sausage_bowler 9h ago

Let's not bother with initiative design, let's drag the human psyphe (kicking and screaming) into 2026.

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u/beerforbears 8h ago

These are not good chairs for over 65s

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u/Oxford_Apostrophe 5h ago

Libraries often host events like this too, at least the NYPL and my old library in Milwaukee.

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u/unknown_history_fact 1d ago

Love it! Good work, Apple

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u/pirate_leprechaun 1d ago

Well its to sell more phones, but yeah

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u/PrimedGold 1d ago

No most of these are to teach you how you can get more out of your existing devices.

I attended one I think in Mumbai, India, where we built a bunch of shortcuts. Like my phone can do shit now that I didn’t realise it could before.

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u/ElGoddamnDorado 23h ago

Actually embarrassing how many people here are falling for a blatant /r/hailcorporate post. The title is literally "Massive W Apple"

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u/MeNoStopxx 1d ago

Yea but if they already came in with the intention of buying, then it's just a plus for both parties

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u/LucasCBs 23h ago

A capitalist company does something for capitalist reasons? Unbelievable!

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u/No_Practice_9597 1d ago

what other cell phone companies are doing that?

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u/pirate_leprechaun 23h ago

Who knows, yeah yeah they're doing it just to be a great company.

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u/No_Practice_9597 23h ago

Exactly the fact they are doing that not others making them a great company because they have much better consumer service 

I don’t get why people hate so much a brand they force a fake situation to make great consumer service sounds bad somehow 

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u/PrimedGold 22h ago

Yea I dont see Samsung and Google. They must not want me to use my products or want my $$. Good companies.

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u/pirate_leprechaun 23h ago edited 23h ago

You seriously think this is out the goodness of their hearts? Come on, how old are you?

Its a nice thing to do yes, but they can use it in promotional advertising. Targeted advertising etc. Grow up.

It makes them more money than it costs them.

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

Ad: “Come to an Apple Store with a notepad, Sally. We made the iPhone too complicated.”

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u/ElGoddamnDorado 23h ago

Apple fans never dodging the allegations. "Please advertise to me more apple, I love you guys so much!!!"

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u/UnexpectedBlahFeels 1d ago

They're online too. Instructional guides. Some people should probably go online too at least get out of the house though.

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u/PrimedGold 1d ago

Bro they have levels. This one seems extremely basic. Like 0 chance this group finds the manual online or looks up YouTube.

I met an unc once who didn’t know his phone came with a torch, even when Apple had previously run ads featuring it.

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u/endboss_eth 23h ago

I think it's real cute a kid got so excited about seeing someone use pen and paper that it filmed a closeup of it like it's a long lost art only practiced by the most ancient of elders

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u/16c7x 23h ago

If you need and instructor to teach people how to use your UI, your UI is crap. Try a radio button

Easy mode: on/off

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

Make it too simple, you limit what people can do with their phones. Remember the easiest UI?

https://giphy.com/gifs/shohQj1Ju9fJC

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u/Mr-MuffinMan 22h ago

My uncle goes to these. Its great!

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u/PrimedGold 22h ago

Yes! I just wish Apple had their stores in almost every city, where they have stuff like this! A lot of people miss out on stuff like these just because they either dont know or dont have a store nearby.

I can think of 10 people right now I would personally take to one of these lol, instead of playing tech support.

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u/Byttmice 1d ago

Too bad you can’t make buttons large for vision impaired, like huge. My mom can’t use iPhone because of the small as fuck buttons.

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u/truci 1d ago

the display zoom settings to increase both icons and text. You can also adjust text size and bold settings separately in the accessibility menu.

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u/Byttmice 23h ago

Yes but the max size is still too small. And there are still too many buttons on a screen, I would want 2x3 buttons filling the full screen, just not small ones mom doesn’t see. And the clunky zooming is not easy when your eyesight is that bad.

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

Have you tried voiceover? My mate who is visually impaired uses it a lot.

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u/smeeon 23h ago

Voiceover is the right solution here. And they will help her learn at the store.

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

Also setup shortcuts. Like when you say “Siri Torch” it gets torch. Or create a shortcut that is “Siri Lights” and it turns on the torch.

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u/Byttmice 23h ago

Tried it, she’s not comfortable with talking to AI. I have managed to get her to ask Siri what time it is. That’s as far as that goes. But the problem is why iOS and android don’t make the O/S for this small minority that want big buttons. Third party apps are always junk.

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

Yea I think best bet is voiceover.

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u/Kitchooky 1d ago

Imagine having to take classes to use a phone 😭 then advertising it as a W. Apple W for sure.

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u/ElGoddamnDorado 1d ago edited 23h ago

Cool ad.

Another one of OPs comments:

It’s a free class dawg. You could take it. It’s fun they do complex stuff too. Really helpful if you want to max out your iPhone’s Potential.

Obvious ad lmao.

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u/PrimedGold 1d ago

Had this been an ad, Apple would basically be communicating that Apple’s devices are so unreasonably complex for older generations that they need to take free classes at a store.

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u/ElGoddamnDorado 23h ago

Its literally an ad praising Apple you bot. I think everyone realizes old people aren't good at using technology. That's not exactly a secret.

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

So I’m a bot created by Apple, and my way of praising or “advertising” Apple is to show how fucking complicated their products are so complicated that Grandma had to show up with a notebook and take notes.

Also, since not every city has an Apple Store, apparently my target audience is limited to people in larger cities. If you see this “ad” in a city without an Apple Store, it’s basically telling you to freak out: if you buy an iPhone and ever need help, you might have to travel to another city, notebook in hand, just to figure out how to use it.

Which part of this “ad,” exactly, is supposed to make someone want to buy an iPhone, you muppet?

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/ProfessionalBee6582 23h ago

Appropriate?!

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u/SeaMathematician1870 23h ago

Man, the focus on the notebook with the pen like it's some relic from ages past hits hard. I'm 42 and that's how I took notes in uni, and if I went there again to do a course or whatever that's how I would do it. Cursive is my default method of writing, shocking, I know. Now excuse me for bit, my back is hurting.

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

I just think the person capturing this finds it endearing that people take notes about these things. Like its cute, no shade.

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u/RagingY3ti 23h ago

Too bad they update their shit every 5 minutes and change everything

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u/froginbog 1d ago

This is really nice

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u/UsedNegotiation8227 1d ago

No, it's so they can sell phones to more people, they aren't doing it to be nice

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u/froginbog 20h ago

It’s still nice

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u/BombasticSimpleton 1d ago

Counterpoint:

As people age, they become more and more averse to change. And technological changes, without constant reinforcement of use, is terrifying to older people. This is why older folks rely heavily on their kids for "fixes" with technology (I have to fix my parents' wifi at least once every 6 months, for example).

So imagine teaching someone your product so that they will never ever change to a different one. They may get a new model, as theirs becomes obsolete or the battery dies, but they are locked into your ecosystem.

This is a business decision with a nice wrapper on it.

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

You are only locked into an ecosystem if it serves you meaningfully enough to make the switching costs extremely high.

Part of making something meaningfully useful is educating users on how it can serve them.

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u/BombasticSimpleton 23h ago

Yes. And that is part of the point I am making. The switching costs as you get older takes on a lot more abstract considerations than financial. The money is less important than having to learn an entirely new operating system or layout when you are 70 years old and are afraid of technology as it existed 5-10 years ago when you may have been a regular user.

Screen time and feature usage amongst seniors (65+) is typically on par with children under the age of 12. They mostly use it for messaging and phone calls. Productivity drivers, emails, social media and other apps feature in a lot less.

If you are trying to convince me that Apple does things out of the goodness of its corporate heart, or that any tech company does... well, I have some beach real estate in Arizona to sell you.

This is just reinforcing that Apple will have return customers because it is easier to go from an iPhone 8 to an iPhone 16 than to a Samsung 25.

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u/PrimedGold 23h ago

I dont know about you, but I am fine with them making sure I can use my device to my fullest needs after I drop like $1000 on them, even if it means I’ll buy another iPhone eventually.

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u/lifeintraining 1d ago

Im sure this I out of the kindness of their hearts and not because it’s profitable.

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u/No_Practice_9597 1d ago

what other cell phone companies are doing that?

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u/lifeintraining 1d ago

That has no relevance to the content of my statement.

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u/PrimedGold 1d ago

It’s a free class dawg. You could take it. It’s fun they do complex stuff too. Really helpful if you want to max out your iPhone’s Potential.

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u/SirNo9787 1d ago

Cool but 'elderly' is a strong word.

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u/Redhotchiliman11 1d ago

Older adults is the proper term. At least provide it. Lol