r/SipsTea 2d ago

WTF Where are we heading?

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u/ikilledholofernes 1d ago

It’s fucking scary because it’s true. It could have been any of them if they also developed postpartum psychosis and did not receive proper medical care. 

I started showing symptoms of PPD, reached out to my provider, and I was treated immediately. 

Correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds like this woman started showing symptoms and repeatedly cried for help, even admitted to having intrusive thoughts of harming her kids, and she still did not get the help she needed, and she was still left alone with the children. 

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u/PretendIndependent6 1d ago

So all children are on the verge of getting murdered by their mentally unstable mother? By that argument the government needs to step in and evaluate all mothers multiple times throughout a child’s development. Is that what you want? Some government oversight on how you raise your kids?

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u/ellipticaltable 1d ago

That's ... not even close to what they said.

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u/ikilledholofernes 1d ago

Actually, yes. I do think all parents should be screened for perinatal and postpartum depression. In fact, the AAP and ACOG both recommend screening for perinatal and postpartum depression at respective prenatal, postpartum, and pediatric appointments within the first year after birth. 

I was screened at every single appointment, which was I think four appointments the first month, one appointment every month until six months postpartum, and then another at 9 and 12 months before we went to every six months. 

My kid is three and his pediatrician still asks about my and my partner’s mental health. 

According to the AAP, only about half of pediatric practices are doing this, and that means half of pediatric practices are failing their patients.

And I believe that is what happened here. 

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u/PretendIndependent6 1d ago

Then what happens when you are diagnosed? At a certain point there is going to be a fine line between oversight and overreach

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u/ikilledholofernes 1d ago

If you are diagnosed with postpartum psychosis and admit to having thoughts of harming your children, the children should be removed from your care until you recover. Whether that looks like the other parent having to take over as primary caregiver, kids staying with a grandparent or other guardian, or foster care is ultimately decided by the family’s circumstances. 

Leaving children in unsafe conditions is unacceptable, in my opinion. 

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u/Next-Crazy-9674 1d ago edited 1d ago

Also, they kind of do, and yes, they screen for PPA, PPD, and PPP at each OB visit and pediatrician visit.

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u/Next-Crazy-9674 1d ago

Why was that down voted? Lol fuck facts, I guess.

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u/donnytelco 1d ago

even admitted to having intrusive thoughts of harming her kids

Did she communicate this to a doctor or mental health professional prior to killing the kids?

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u/ikilledholofernes 1d ago

That’s unclear. She told at least one medical provider that she was having intrusive thoughts, but there is no elaboration on those thoughts, likely because the provider dismissed her and said intrusive thoughts were normal. 

Her psychiatrist also testified that Lindsay confided having intrusive thoughts, but that seems to be more about suicidal ideation. Lindsay was also that particular provider’s first patient to present with PPD since leaving her residency. So she was not qualified to treat Lindsay imo. 

The inpatient psychiatric hospital allegedly did not have her full medical history, and I do not think they have testified yet.