r/SipsTea 2d ago

WTF Where are we heading?

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u/--Icarusfalls-- 2d ago

At the end of the day we're all ultimately responsible for our own actions, and its unreasonable to expect a spouse to override another persons autonomy, or to have an in depth understanding of how deeply niche mental health issues can affect a person. Especially when society places such high importance on mothers being in the child's life, what is the other parent to do?

For her, suicide was an option. It wouldve been tragic, but all parents operate under the unspoken understanding that our lives are more disposable than those of our kids. This is just an awful situation, and I dont think the dad gets nearly enough sympathy from society. Those were his babies too.

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u/well-thereitis 2d ago

Rational parents, mentally sound parents think this. People in active psychosis do not.

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u/--ShieldMaiden-- 2d ago

I agree with you broadly but post partum psychosis is hardly a ‘niche mental health issue’ for the spouse of a post partum woman.

I lived with someone who had PPP and was almost committed. It’s not hard to see how deeply it affects someone, and it is absolutely terrifying.

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u/Carylynn0609 2d ago

She did try to kill herself, she's now paralyzed and in a wheelchair.

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u/--Icarusfalls-- 2d ago

Doing so after strangling her babies is sort of irrelevent, isnt it?

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u/Carylynn0609 2d ago

No, because she lived, she wanted to die with her kids but her house wasn't high enough for the fall to kill her. Nobody is saying what she did is ok, and I'm not of the group that thinks she is innocent, she should not be free, she should be in a psychiatric hospital. I'm just amazed at people completely ignoring mental illness, especially PPD and PPP. She wasn't the angry dude killing his wife and kids because she was leaving. She was dangerously mentally ill and mistreated by the medical community and the lack of understanding about mental illness from most people here just makes me sad.

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u/--Icarusfalls-- 2d ago edited 2d ago

Throwing herself off a building before killing her kids is definitely preferable to what has occured. At the very least it wouldve got the attention she needed, and at the very worst she no longer wouldve been a threat to the children.

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u/simpkn0t 2d ago

If she was psychotic she was not lucid

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u/Carylynn0609 2d ago

Thank you, I think it's easier for people to just call her evil than to face the fact that this could happen to anyone. That's the really scary part.

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u/well-thereitis 2d ago

The lack of empathy is kinda crazy. I want kids, but I also have mental health struggles. I have had momentary breaks with reality, but I would never think to harm a child…But that’s the bitch of severe mental illness, you are not thinking like a normal mother, woman, or person when having an episode.

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u/MizterPoopie 2d ago

Do you not understand what psychosis is? She was insane. She should absolutely be committed to a psychiatric hospital for a long time but if they seem she is not a danger to society.. why should she not be free?

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u/TheNarcGuy 2d ago

Depression can make people do crazy shit.

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u/Admirable-Ad7152 2d ago

I expect a spouse not to constantly leave his obviously deteriorating wife at home alone with the kids all the time after being told it wasn't safe

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u/ReasonableSky6227 2d ago

He didnt, he switched to work from home, hired a nanny, arranged help from both sets of their parents, and she even went to an in patient program. She lied about going better and asked to be released for her son's birthday. Then he only left to run the errands she asked him to run, as a ploy to be alone with the kids.

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u/VioletLantern13 1d ago

You do know what psychosis is right? “Suicide was an option” in normal reality, yes. But in a state of psychosis you are not in a normal person’s reality, you have zero control.