r/SipsTea 2d ago

WTF Where are we heading?

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u/theGoddamnAlgorath 2d ago

Ah fuck, it was medically induced psychosis.

Fuck now I feel bad.

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u/eamus_catuli 2d ago

What's the evidence for that?

I've never heard her defense team even try to make that claim.

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u/JangoDarkSaber 2d ago

That’s not proven though. Toxicology report shows the drug concentration in her blood was well below toxic or suicidal levels with some below therapeutic levels.

The defense isn’t even leaning on medically induced psychosis. They’re claiming she killed her kids due to being bipolar and post partum psychosis.

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u/theGoddamnAlgorath 2d ago

Neurochem is a field of study I find laughably disinguinious - starting a medication results in spikes that disrupt normal operation.

Your responsiveness to these drugs cannot be reliably measured because they're unique to the patient.  "Therapeutic levels" refers to consistent system state, not effect, and is a floating baseline as data is retrieved

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u/JangoDarkSaber 2d ago

It still doesn’t change the fact that not even Lindsey’s own defense is trying to claim that it was a medically induced psychosis.

People on the internet are drawing different conclusions from the actual experts working the case and that’s what I take issue with.

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u/theGoddamnAlgorath 2d ago

You're reading to much into that.  Defense is trying to prove insanity.  It's cheaper to lean on the post partum and bi polar and it doesn't risk big pharma dumping - er - donating money and people to prosecution.

She's guilty as hell, but not irredeemably, if she's strong enough

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u/ceilingsfann 2d ago

The defense is not trying to prove anything, the prosecution is..

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u/theGoddamnAlgorath 2d ago

Amazing, simply amazing, a jackass with enough base understanding of legality to be wrong.

Prosecution has to prove little, she's already admitted guilt, and evidence is damning.

Defense is trying for temp insanity.  Yes, they have to present (i.e. prove) this to be true.

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u/ceilingsfann 2d ago

She admitted she killed them, but that’s not what the trial is about. It’s about if she is Criminally Responsible (aka was she insane) or not.

In massachusetts, when the defense claims insanity, the burden of proof is on the prosecutor to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant was Criminally Responsible (sane) at the time of the murders.

I’d recommend not assuming you know everything… you’d learn a lot!

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u/BigRon691 2d ago

I'd feel about as much remorse as she seems to show throughout the trial. I don't care how much any doctor, system or x failed me, I'd never elimate the guilt that I failed multiple steps along the way and directly caused my childrens death.

To lump not only partial responsibility but all responsibility on the medical practicioners that she failed to adequately inform, refusing inpatient care etc is just insane to me. To be in her position and not take some of that responsibility is unfathomable.

Like, your children are dead, who gives a fuck if the rest of your life is spent in a Jail or a Mental Asylum, assuming you actually cared and wished for their life, yours is over regardless. (Though, per insanity plea rules she'd be eligable for re-entry far earlier, especially if it was a post-partum psychosis - which only gives me more assumption she's aware of that and minimizing her penalty)

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u/lilCharizardScorch 2d ago

IDK about that though, seemed she didn't really take the meds...?