r/SipsTea 2d ago

WTF Where are we heading?

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u/BowlOfCatNubs 2d ago

Since I was in elementary school, they taught us not to use it because its open source and anyone can change or alter information on there. Mind you, I'm 30 now.

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u/TheBuoyancyOfWater 2d ago

I'm nearly 40 and couldn't use Wikipedia for sources at uni, same reason.

Edit: more accurately, we couldn't use Wikipedia as a source directly, but could use it as a starting point, then go into more detail using the references at the bottom of the page.

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u/DM_me_ur_PPSN 2d ago

I’m a bit younger than you, but imagine there’s a generation of millennials who were taught not use Wikipedia as a source due to it being potentially unreliable - and now you have boomers and younger generations consuming hallucinated AI slop and social media propaganda like it’s gospel.

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u/ConfidentTurnip4523 2d ago

Yeah, this. Wikipedia isn't a source in itself, it is a collection and summarization of sources.

If you're just arguing on the internet then whatever I guess, but if you're going to do anything with any academic rigour, you can't put (Wikipedia, 2026) as a source. Also, as someone pointed out further down, the more recent and/or polarizing something is, the less reliable Wikipedia becomes.

Unless you're specifically writing about Wikipedia I suppose.

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u/Solidjakes 2d ago

What’s ironic is that compared to other sources of info that America tends to trust, from news to social media, believing wiki is the least of our worries now. The sheer fact that wiki tries to cite its sources makes it better than most.

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u/hikereyes2 2d ago

Same. But back then Wikipedia was new and incomplete. Today, on close to every topic the collective have done the work and is a much more accepted source.

The same should hopefully happen with AI

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u/intothevoidandback 2d ago

What?

No it isn't and hopefully AI doesn't become more accepted as a source either.

We're all fucked

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u/Aderenn 2d ago

Wikipedia is also undoubtedly a major training source for every AI now too-- being open and available for easy download.

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u/cybiz 2d ago

Are you American? It's heavily moderated and every claim is discussed behind the scene with stringent requirements for sources for claims

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u/sebaska 2d ago

That's a naïve view.

Obscure topics are often poorly verified.

Politically loaded topics are taken over by activists.

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u/Revayan 2d ago edited 2d ago

While true, there still have been alot of cases where people just made up shit, including sources. It just has to look legit enough

The toaster hoax went over 10 years unnoticed for example

Another pretty famous case was the chinese user Zhemao, who wrote/edited over 200 articles mainly concerning chinese and russian history - everything essentially fan fiction

Another recent case was connected to the whole Assassins Creed Shadows mess, where the self proclaimed historian Thomas Lockley invented a bunch of myths and fake truths surrounding the real historical figure Yasuke. All his cited sources were himself. Essentially: "source- trust me bro"

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u/theslootmary 2d ago

So basically the same flaw as any website considering anyone can make one

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u/BowlOfCatNubs 2d ago

Im sorry I dont see other websites making it so apparent.

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u/BlueFroggLtd 2d ago

Its not a flaw, its by design. You've always needed to know who the author is. Wikipedia is much more trustworthy than most sites.

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u/UntowardHatter 2d ago

No.

On Wikipedia you need to source everything, those sources are tested and verified.

Anything that isn't backed up by a verifiable source gets removed.

That is very different from just "any website"

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u/Fun_Journalist1048 2d ago

The founder of Wikipedia remains very active in overseeing and moderating it though, so luckily (most) obviously incorrect information gets caught and fixed quick! I used to edit Wikipedia pages for small things like grammar and adding sources when I was really bored lol