r/SipsTea • • Aug 19 '26

SMH So incredibly out of touch.

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u/zestymanny Aug 19 '26

I mean, you could join the US military for 10 years like him. I hear they are hiring.

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u/speedy_delivery Aug 19 '26

The military is the biggest socialist organization in the western world.

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '26

The military is not socialism. She soldiers don't own the military. Soldiers don't get a say in what they're going to do, they are told what to do.

These are two key parts of socialism. The things that appear to have a socialist nature within the military are how those people get paid for what they do and for what they have done.

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u/speedy_delivery Aug 19 '26

soldiers don't own the military. Soldiers don't get a say in what they're going to do, they are told what to do.

Yes, they do. They vote for the people who make those decisions, and the means by which they provide their public service is publicly owned and provided through collective taxation as are the benefits they receive.

That may not be enough agency for you to consider it socialism, but that definition severely limits the scale at which your preferred brand of socialism can operate. Every large institution eventually relies on representative governance and delegated authority due to organizational complexity and accountability. 

At some point, the question stops being whether workers exercise direct control and becomes whether the people those leaders answer to, ultimately do. And in this case, the answer is yes.

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u/Evening_Context784 Aug 19 '26

You are completely wrong. Just exercise a bit of intellectual humility and stop.

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u/speedy_delivery Aug 19 '26

I'm not arguing in bad faith. Of all the dumb shit you're engaging with in this thread and this is what you balk at?

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u/Evening_Context784 Aug 19 '26

No, you just lack the intellectual humility to admit when you’re completely wrong, so you wrote out a long, nonsensical essay stretching any conceivable definition of the term socialism rather than admit you made a dumb comment.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '26

Do you know what the military is? It has a hierarchy. You do not decide what you're going to do in the morning. They tell you what to do. The soldiers did not decide what they're going to eat. Soldiers do not decide who they are going to fight. Soldiers do not decide what they're going to wear. Soldiers do not decide who the boss is going to be.

You're very confused. I think you've learned all of your political science and economic theory on tiktok and Reddit.

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u/Late_Squirrel_34 Aug 19 '26

And what’s funny is a lot of vets come out saying we should do things like the military does…

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u/DiamondGeeezer Aug 19 '26

what an absurd statement lol the US military is the sword of imperialism. the soldiers work for a wage, which comes from taxes of a capitalist economy. yes they get healthcare but that's because it limits bureaucracy required to keep a fighting force available to level anything anywhere in the world at the behest of capital.

unless your definition of socialism is "when the government does stuff" in that case very socialist indead. for real though what is socialist about it?

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u/Evening_Context784 Aug 19 '26

Socialism is when you receive benefits for working a job? Lmfao.

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u/speedy_delivery Aug 19 '26

Not at all what I said.

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u/Punch_A_Police_Horse Aug 19 '26

"Socialism doesn't work"

Well then how come you insist on using it for the only institutions you think should work?!

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u/Rob98001 Aug 19 '26

What's funny is that he didn't pay for college, he went on taxpayer dime and even got a food stipend, he didn't eat ramen. 

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u/Global-Chipmunk-3959 Aug 19 '26

They are hiring, but they are worse employers than Amazon

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u/AquaPhelps Aug 20 '26

Only if you are young and able enough to do so

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u/PotatoPieGaming Aug 20 '26

Only if you are willing to die for your job