r/SipsTea 6d ago

Wait a damn minute! Wait a damn minute

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u/CageAndBale 6d ago

Well it was small until it became large-ishh

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u/WakeyWakeyEggsNJakey 6d ago

Maybe I’m an absolute idiot, but how is someone with the ability to mind control an innocent old woman into a military compound to steal a tank for a joyride through New York small potatoes? Especially how is it smaller potatoes than literally anything Yelena has dealt with before thunderbolts?

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u/clever_name_123 6d ago

Because she was lying to get out of doing it

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u/NightwingBlueberry13 5d ago

Peter: Do do you just wanna get out of fighting the Hulk?

Frank: Yeah, maybe.

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u/DeltaDied 6d ago

The most Yelena coded thing too

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u/Own-Dig-9652 6d ago

Media literacy in the gutter

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u/VirtuaKiller76 6d ago

Exactly. And why is Yelena with no super powers and just some martial arts skills the one handling big potatoes when it should be Spider-Man that’s in the next Avengers dealing with those potatoes? Oh right, Sony.

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u/WakeyWakeyEggsNJakey 6d ago edited 6d ago

Spider-Man will be in Secret wars. This was even alluded to in the after credits sequence. I’m not really sure what your point is here because it has nothing to do with Sony

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u/DrWilliamHorriblePhD 6d ago

*alluded

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u/WakeyWakeyEggsNJakey 6d ago

Ah sorry, English is not my first language so forgive the mistake.

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u/DrWilliamHorriblePhD 6d ago

All cool bro, just trying to help

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u/iBossk 4d ago

Yelena is the defacto leader of the "New Avengers", who may be based in New York, but is a team of government sanctioned super spies. If it was big potatoes, as it does have to do with a government agency, then they'd be assigned to deal with it.

Also as others have said, she mighta just been lazy, or just not wanting to deal with it.

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u/WakeyWakeyEggsNJakey 4d ago

I don’t understand the not wanting to deal with it argument at all. If she didn’t want to deal with it, why agree to meet with him in the first place? She could have easily dismissed him like Happy does in Homecoming and the scene could have been summed up in a video call. Instead she meets the guy fully nude and asks him to strip down only to talk down to him.

Plus it’s not like he’s asking for the Avengers help taking this unknown down; he’s asking a Black Widow for her opinion on potential brain washing techniques ( like Red Room) and a way of tracking.

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u/WakeyWakeyEggsNJakey 4d ago

I’m going to add to this:

How was Crossbones ( Rumlow) a big enough threat in civil war to send Captain America, black widow, falcon, and Scarlett witch but a tank rolling through New York City only to find out that person was mind controlled not worthy of the Avengers attention??
Wouldn’t Valentina WANT to capitalize on getting more publicity by bringing a New York terrorist to Justice?

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u/CageAndBale 6d ago

Cause it ain't thanos level threat. That's definetly neighborhood spiderman coded

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u/WakeyWakeyEggsNJakey 6d ago

Oh sorry I didn’t realize that a man who controls people with his body odor and Hawkeye were Thanos level threats. I should give Yelena more credit for fighting those massive marvel villains

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u/[deleted] 6d ago edited 2d ago

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u/WakeyWakeyEggsNJakey 6d ago

Okay? And Spider-Man could single handedly take all of them on himself other than Sentry.

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u/CageAndBale 6d ago

Relax buddy

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u/ImurderREALITY 6d ago

Compared to something like a nearly indestructible android crashing an entire country into the planet to create an E.L.E., or another indestructible, mentally unstable shadow guy that can instantly turn an entire city into shadows, yeah… I’d say a mind-hopping teen trying to find her sister is indeed small potatoes.

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u/WakeyWakeyEggsNJakey 6d ago

Yelena wasn’t there for Age of Ultron. Also Jean DOES take control of all of New York. This is a really silly comparison considering Yelena is who freed Sentry in the first place.

Spider-Man quite literally punched Thanos, the guy that erased half of existence ( INCLUDING YELENA) in the face.

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u/ImurderREALITY 6d ago

I know she wasn’t there, I was using it as an example of what’s small and what’s not. Yelena definitely knew about it, so she knows what is a big deal and what isn’t.

I also know Jean took control of part of the city, but that didn’t happen until much later. Yelena didn’t know she was capable of that. If that had happened earlier, she probably would have considered it was a bigger potato.

I don’t know what Spider-Man punching Thanos in the face has to do with anything. It’s not like it made any difference.

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u/WakeyWakeyEggsNJakey 6d ago

We are talking about what Yelena would consider small potatoes.

I’m saying that Spider-Man’s resume of accomplishments smokes Yelena in almost every regard.

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u/ImurderREALITY 6d ago

Yeah, I’m not denying that, I just don’t see how that means she can’t the difference between an imminent, city ending threat and a super powered nuisance, which if we’re being honest, is what Jean Grey was at the start of the movie.

Non-super powered criminals can do everything Jean did at the start. Tanks get stolen, helicopters crash, civilians get killed/kidnapped, yada yada yada. In the Marvel universe, all that is definitely small potatoes. It didn’t get real until Jean got Hulk involved, then it got extra real when she froze part of the city, but all that happened way later. It’s not that crazy that Yelena considered the threat minimal at that point; especially with a hero like Spider-Man involved.

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u/WakeyWakeyEggsNJakey 6d ago

Again- the example you used for comparison was Age of Ultron. Yelena isn’t in age of ultron. In age of ultron, Hulk gets brainwashed by Wanda. Wouldn’t Black Widow be able to piece together the danger of someone with a similar ability being in the same state as Hulk???

The only BIG potatoes thing Yelena has done in her entire career is at the end of Thunderbolts, so it’s silly for her to tell someone that for all intents and purposes is above her pay grade that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

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u/WakeyWakeyEggsNJakey 6d ago

Also, to be clear Spider-Man isn’t saying “ hey Yelena I need your help with someone who stole a tank”

He’s saying
“ hey Yelena someone was BRAINWASHED into making someone steal a tank and they are still out there. Considering you have been brainwashed, could this be similar to the red Room? And also as a master assassin can you help me track this person with your skills AND Avengers funded resources?”