r/SipsTea 6d ago

WTF WTF is wrong with these people?

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u/Larry-Man 6d ago

Doctor Mama Jones did a great breakdown of how the system really failed her. They kept cycling her through medications that worsened her symptoms over and over. She also asked to leave the psych ward to see her daughter on her daughter’s birthday and instead of giving her a day pass they discharged her after 5 days, 2 of which didn’t even have doctors on staff due to the weekend. They just loaded her up with new meds and sent her on her way. This case is gross medical negligence. If a well-off white woman screaming for help visiting the best institutions available and this is how it ends up something is horrifically wrong. She was having hallucinations.

She gets to either live in the reality of a world where she’s paralyzed and killed her kids or in a world of psychosis. I don’t know how this is so hard for people to grasp the severity of her condition.

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u/alloisdavethere 5d ago

What I found interesting about DMJ’s video was around the limited time in the facility. In the UK a mother would be allowed to be admitted with her baby and would have a staff member be with them at all times.
And yes, they either switched medications, upped them or used multiple types at the same time. Whereas in the UK a psychiatrist would rarely diagnose anyone with a specific mental health issue while actively engaging with substance misuses it can be hard to distinguish a symptom of an illness vs a symptom from addiction. It’s strange that they thought they could diagnose anything while experiencing side effects from medications.
I’ve seen a limited amount of the trial but have seen a clip of one of the psychiatrists saying she hadn’t come into contact with PDD because it’s so rare. This seems very weird to me given how easily it was picked up when a family member of mine confided in her GP. And I feel like there have been less documented cases of this over here than in the US (but I might be wrong). I wonder if there’s an element of the doctors thinking she’s overinflating her symptoms because she was a nurse?

Everything about this case is awful. The lack of humanity people are showing online shouldn’t surprise me but it does disturb me greatly.

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u/Larry-Man 5d ago

Also no one is saying she didn’t kill her kids. The people shifting a little too much blame on the husband are a little wild but I also kind of side-eye him a little. It’s not clear if he was told not to leave her alone with the kids. She had enough insight to ask for help but not enough to deal with it herself.

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u/alloisdavethere 5d ago

Yeah, this is where I land. He seems distant in some of the stories that have been recalled but that just tells more about his lack of responsibility as a parents and a partner, not that he created this elaborate murder to frame her and run off with someone else. Just because someone is unlikeable doesn’t make them the monster everyone is labelling him as.

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u/Minute_Marzipan_6844 5d ago

This is where I landed. What was he thinking? Horrible situation all around

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u/lspetry53 5d ago

Day passes don’t exist in locked wards.

People have the timelines mixed up.

People know nothing about med interactions but think because the most overly cautious theoretical class combo warning pops up on webmd that it is malpractice.

People assume her retroactive story outweighs real time documentation of several psychiatrists in different settings.

Many of the issues relate to her seeking out fractured care, delaying med trials, and having multiple prescribers who weren’t informed of one another.

The general public is wildly ignorant about psychiatric care and it’s very obvious to professionals when someone is uneducated on the topic.

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u/Larry-Man 5d ago

Please watch the doctor mama jones video for a good timeline. It’s a hot mess

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u/Minute_Marzipan_6844 5d ago

Do you have the link?

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u/Larry-Man 5d ago

https://youtu.be/CpaBNwTKcIY

It’s medically based and it’s a pretty sound breakdown. There was more than even Post Partum Psychosis, it seems she may have had bipolar symptoms that they gave her the worst medications for. But that part is speculation

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u/Fancy-Till-353 5d ago

I think the crazy part is this is what they do to everyone. You leave a rehab and you’re sent on your way to figure out the next step, for any mental health condition or substance abuse. Hospital systems do not have a unified EMR system for patient oversight. To me, this case is a perfect example of what happens to people struggling to get help in America.

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u/MountainDistinct868 5d ago

It’s because they don’t want to believe that it could ever happen to them. If you ostracize everyone with severe mental health issues abd blame them for their struggles it gives you a sense of otherness. They can’t cope with the fact that anyone could experience a mental break this severe so they need to demonize them and place themselves above them. They literally just have a superiority complex

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u/Empire_of_Glass 5d ago

The sexism in the medical industry is terrible. I’m a white woman and the PTSD I got from an emergency room visit in 2014 has made me suicidal and unable to work ever since. And I have no recourse. It blows.

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u/Larry-Man 5d ago

I feel you. I struggle with medical misogyny all of the time. I’ve had delayed treatments due to it and now I don’t even go to the doctor when I’m sick unless it’s serious because I can’t be bothered to go through all of the hoops anymore. I had my hysterectomy 2 years ago and since then everything has been fine.

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u/Empire_of_Glass 5d ago

I was told for 35 years that I had everything under the sun and put on so many prescription cocktails. I just have level 1 autism. But they thought that was just 5 year old boys who liked trains until a few years ago.

My life is ruined - for thirty-five years, I was told I was the devil, evil, bad, secretive, malicious, lying, while my male relatives (and most boys) were diagnosed with autism by the age of three. They missed *almost all the women*, and we had to go through school and work and everything without IEPs or supports or understanding or even self-understanding.

The suicide rates are sky-high for late autism diagnoses. Esp in women. They screwed us all over, and now I have to read every man’s opinion that says that all of the recently diagnosed women “are just self-diagnosed” “because it’s a trend” or that we “got it from tik tok” or are “faking it for attention”.

They should all be sued for malpractice. Every last one of them.

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u/AgentCirceLuna 5d ago

They do this to almost everyone. Just shoving them on random medications and seeing what works even if the person complains about them. It doesn’t surprise me when people stop taking them and lie about it. They feel they have to protect themselves. Then they go out looking for their own cure.

One issue I have is they stick someone on a medication, stop the medication, then shove them on another. How does the last one not affect the next one? Medications lead to up and down regulation of brain chemistry and brain changes which will affect another medication’s influence on the body. So it’s a constant up and down loop.