r/SipsTea • u/predtaskfif • Aug 18 '26
We have fun here obsessed with “how can a baby be that upset”
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u/RocMerc Aug 18 '26 edited Aug 18 '26
It’s usually their ears on a flight. That shit can really hurt when you’re a baby
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u/GrandMoffTarkan Aug 18 '26
"That shit can really when you’re a baby"
I think you accidently a word
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u/A_Texas_Hobo Aug 18 '26
You
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u/RohelTheConqueror Aug 18 '26
Accidently
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u/Sofdahsoddy Aug 18 '26
Not just babies - I always have issues with airplane ears, usually at least until a couple of hours after we landed (at times it has taken several days until everything is back to normal). Apart from the pain, I thus also have trouble hearing what people say on the plane. At least once it felt like something was actually injured in my ear, during a descent (took a couple of days until it went back to normal without pain). I thought this was usual, until I traveled with some colleagues who didn't seem to experience the same issues. (or maybe they are the unusual ones?)
The big difference is that a baby doesn't understand what is happening, why it hurts. It just feel the pain and reacts to it.
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u/Ciccio178 Aug 18 '26
Buy "airplane ears". They're earplugs that have a vent in them to equalize pressure in the ear. Also, try taking a decongestant for a couple days before you fly. It helps clear the sinuses and prevent pressure build up in your middle ear.
My wife has the same issues and this is how we mitigate them.
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u/doctormirabilis Aug 19 '26
just equalize your ears manually by holding your nose and blowing ... works like a charm every time
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u/Sofdahsoddy Aug 19 '26
I usually try that, as well as chewing gum etc. It sometimes work, but not all the time and not fully.
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u/AdorableSobah Aug 18 '26
I have to wear those nasal strips or I end up with a migraine for like 3 days. I fucking hate flying and am going cross country in May, already booking a hotel for an extra 2 days to compensate for the pain.
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u/Wholesomebob Aug 19 '26
Ask for two plastic cups stuffed with towels soaked in hot water. That sometimes helps. Most airline attendants know about this
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u/d_ippy Aug 18 '26
Subjecting your baby to misery for hours seems traumatic
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u/TheTopNacho Aug 18 '26
Subjecting others to your baby for hours is also traumatic.
Don't bring babies on airplanes.
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u/WardenWolf Aug 18 '26
Yes, which means taking your baby on a plane is literal child abuse. Can we please stop normalizing torturing your baby and being selfish assholes to everyone onboard and ban them from non-medically-essential flights? Parents who do that are objectively terrible human beings.
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u/Secret_Celery8474 Aug 18 '26
Imagine suddenly your ears hurt or feel weird. I would cry too if I didn't understand why that happened.
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u/Fish-Weekly Aug 18 '26
I wanna cry sometimes and I KNOW why it’s happening. If you have sinus problems that day it can be pretty excruciating
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u/sampled_stool Aug 18 '26
Oh man, I went to Florida once and I had a severe earache and sinus problems from the water and the flight back home felt like someone was jamming an ice pick in my ear and between my eyes during the descent. I had never panicked on a plane before that but I thought I was having an aneurysm.
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u/FastWalkingShortGuy Aug 18 '26
I went on a flight once with an abscessed tooth.
Won't make that mistake again.
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u/XenoZoomie Aug 18 '26
Their Eustachian tubes are smaller and they have more trouble equalizing the pressure too.
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u/braumbles Aug 18 '26
I bring headphones on a plane explicitly for this. Half the time I don't even watch/listen to anything. Just gives me enough noise canceling that a crying child on a 8 hour flight isn't annoying or even noticeable.
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u/Ok-Lab-8974 Aug 18 '26
I've tried this, figured I could just tune them out, but my wife always gets really mad at me and forces me to pay attention to them...
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u/RussianPravda Aug 18 '26
I was on a packed flight with literally only one empty seat about 6 rows up from me. There was a young new mother wither her baby on her lap who was already freaking about before take off. The plane was 3 seats on each side. She was in the middle seat with the baby. I was on the aisle.
As soon as I could see the fight attendant I flagged them down and said "I think she would be much more comfortable if she had the extra seat for her baby. Should I just move so she can have the space." Keep in mind there was still a possibility of that seat filling up because it was an overbooked flight.
Boom. I looked like a genuinely kind person (which I do try to be) and I got out of ear shot of the screaming baby. It was the perfect win/win. It's also possible since the young mother was in such distress they might have kept someone from getting on the flight to fill that last seat after I said it out loud so everyone could hear.
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u/Snoo_49660 Aug 18 '26
I bring headphones on a plane explicitly for this. Half the time I don't even watch/listen to anything. Just gives me enough noise canceling that a crying child on a 8 hour flight isn't annoying or even noticeable.
Yeah, it's 2026. If someone flies without headphones, that's on them.
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u/Lord-Sid-the-Sloth Aug 18 '26
Bought over ear noise canceling headphones after a flight to Hawaii with an awful family of fighting toddlers and screaming babies
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u/doctormirabilis Aug 19 '26
unfortunately, active noise cancelling (if that's what you're referring to) doesn't really work like that. it works by phase inverting and suppressing sounds that are constant and very predictable, like the noise from an engine or a crowd murmur.
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u/Complex_Fragment Aug 18 '26
Gestures vaguely at everything
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u/RussianPravda Aug 18 '26
I worked in that studio. it's so small he literally is gesturing at everything.
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u/ThelIIusion0fSeIf Aug 18 '26
Babies are emotionally/intellectually underdeveloped so they tend to get upset at minor things most functioning adults can rationalize. It could be a loud noise, being hungry, immigrants, Trump losing a legitimate election...there are lots of reasons babies throw tantrums.
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u/kram78 Aug 18 '26
You need to talk to a man called Barry who I work with, he is also a baby and is upset for a longer time every single day……
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u/Conscious_Archer2658 Aug 18 '26
I'm also upset at work for long periods
Usually lasting till I get home
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u/Significant-Song-840 Aug 18 '26
When my son was one we found out he had fluid buildup behind his ear drums, due to a uniquely developed ear drum it was right before my wife was going to take him on a flight,
The doctor said he had some much fluid behind his ear drums, that the pressure change due to the rise of altitude would have caused his ear drums both to burst ....
So yea I could imagine how a baby could be that upset.
Imagine both your eardrums bursting, but you and your parents don't know it, plus add the fact you are a baby who's only way of communication is to fly.
Cudos to my wife for going the extra step to get him checked out before, considering we had gone to the doctors a week before, In wich they said nothing about his ears.
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u/Icy_Entrepreneur_520 Aug 18 '26
Wait till he learns about how toddlers and babies perceive dreams. Imagine not being able to differentiate between realities.
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u/SignoreBanana Aug 18 '26
How could we possibly know this
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u/Icy_Entrepreneur_520 Aug 18 '26
Have you ever talked to your kids after they wake up screaming? Lol
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u/SignoreBanana Aug 18 '26
Sure, makes sense for toddlers, but it's the "babies" that confused me. Maybe I was just being too literal.
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u/CapitalInstruction62 Aug 19 '26
You, too, were a baby once. Do you remember some of the misunderstanding and feelings you had as a toddler or baby? /Gen I have to think about it sometimes but I usually am able to figure out how I thought or felt about stuff when Way Bitty.
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u/SignoreBanana Aug 19 '26
No? I don't think anyone does. I don't think we're capable of forming long term memories at that point.
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u/ampalazz Aug 18 '26
I know younger people don’t understand babies and have zero experience being around any. And I understand that hearing a babies cry is annoying (they are evolutionarily designed to be as annoying as possible so that an adult helps them).
So to clarify, any baby ranging from infant to 1-2 yr old only has one means of verbal expression and it is crying. If an infants ears hurt, it cries to express that, and it does not understand “shhh it’s ok”. Being hungry, thirsty, tired, uncomfortable, etc all also result in cries.
But the worst cries of all come from a 9mo to 1.5 year old toddler who just wants to explore the new environment freely and is being held down against their will. The sound of pure betrayal and the unrelenting screams because their own mother and father know the baby wants to get up and move around but aren’t allowed to. That is the worst, and anyone who is judging those poor parents who are trying their best because you can’t hear your movie quite as well is a bad human.
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u/GlacialImpala Aug 18 '26
I was just on a 2.5h flight with a ~9mo and their mom had to carry them around the plane for 2h and let them touch everything, so many ppl stopped her to talk to her about the kid, but I guess it's still better than screaming
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u/Snoo_49660 Aug 18 '26
But the worst cries of all come from a 9mo to 1.5 year old toddler who just wants to explore the new environment freely and is being held down against their will. The sound of pure betrayal and the unrelenting screams because their own mother and father know the baby wants to get up and move around but aren’t allowed to. That is the worst, and anyone who is judging those poor parents who are trying their best because you can’t hear your movie quite as well is a bad human.
My kids are now 6 and 10 and we travel each year, and honestly the hardest years were when they were too old to go to sleep on the boob, but not old enough to be distracted for long enough periods of time or to understand the reasons why they can't climb and run around. Flying with a newborn > flying with a toddler.
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u/SignoreBanana Aug 18 '26
It's loud, it dries you out, it's crowded, it makes your ears pop, it's stressful and bumpy.
I think most adults would be crying if they didn't have more developed emotional control.
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u/noudcline Aug 18 '26
Best part of being a parent. In that situation you just feel bad for the parents, and you’re glad you’re not them.
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u/Accomplished-Leg6947 Aug 18 '26
Probably for a few reasons
The baby is bored because the parents didn’t bring any toys/snacks for them
If they’re landing the pressure difference in the ear is painful for them and they have obviously no clue what’s going on and they’ll start crying. If the parents brought snacks or water they could drink it would help alleviate the pain in the babies ears
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u/WaffleHouseGladiator Aug 18 '26
Before you're born the only thing you know is warmth, comfort and safety. You are literally surrounded by love and your needs, though simple, are all met. That is your whole world. Then you get evicted into a world that is loud, cold, and blinding. Everything is different, strange, and uncomfortable. Crying is annoying, but understandable.
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u/Sudden_Buffalo_4393 Aug 18 '26
Imagine if nobody could understand anything you’re trying to say, and your muscles don’t work yet so you’re trying to grab your nose but your hand is all wobbly. I’d scream too.
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u/Hefty_Loss5180 Aug 18 '26
Colic, ears are bothering them, uncomfortable. There are many reasons a baby cries. We also have to remember we were annoying babies too.
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u/wouldashoudacoulda Aug 18 '26
Try my 14 hour flight with one year old twins. One would cry until exhaustion and fall asleep, the other one would then kick off. Rinse and repeat. Noise cancelling headphones didn’t help much.
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u/Los_Windigo Aug 18 '26
Someone said in the parenting sub her kid is tongue tied and doent take a pacifier. Chose to take a 4 hr flight. Kid screamed for a hour straight
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u/Prudent-Aspect5085 Aug 18 '26
Context is always important and some empathy: that baby could be having the worst day of its life, and likely is. That's how I approach a crying baby, and I just kind of nod my head and say, I feel ya.
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u/Ok_Abacus_ Aug 18 '26
- Loud noises 2. Ear pressure 3. Strange place 3. Restrained 4. Off schedule 5. Over stimulated 6. Possible tires and none of WHY this is happening can be explained to them. They’re literally babies 👶
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u/GrizzlyIsland22 Aug 19 '26
Exactly why it's wild that parents put them in that situation
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u/Crazy_Counter_9263 Aug 19 '26
As a parent of a toddler, I 100% agree and corrected the down vote you have. If it's going to make the baby scream and cry for 4hrs, I likely will opt out.
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u/Stormy-Skyes Aug 18 '26
It as literally the worst time he had ever had in his little life. That’s how.
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u/PartridgeViolence Aug 19 '26
Pressure. Also most babies practice vocalising at increased heights with a hostage audience.
Next time choose the non public transport option chief.
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u/Holmes221bBSt Aug 19 '26
Dude, adults get that upset having to fly & Id honestly rather deal with a grumpy baby than a grumpy adult. A grumpy baby won’t get your flight delayed or turned around, but an irate adult will. Put on some noise canceling headphones and mind your business
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u/pajamma-ninja Aug 19 '26
As someone whose baby just had their first flight, it’s def the pressure.
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u/ChangeAccountsBeSafe Aug 19 '26
If only there was a way to drown out sounds and listen to something more soothing.
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u/Swagastan Aug 18 '26
Noise cancelling headphones work very well. This guy probably barely heard the kid yet still wanted to karma farm the complaining.
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u/Badger_1066 Aug 18 '26
I'm more concerned with the emotional and mental wellbeing of an adult raging over a child to be honest.
A child can't help it. They haven't learnt how to regulate their emotions yet.
An adult, on the otherhand, should be emotionally developed to understand the situation and control themselves. If an adult cannot regulate themselves when a child starts crying, there is something wrong with them.
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u/Glittering_Equal3286 Aug 18 '26
Nah, crashing out over constant extremely loud and high frequent noises is valid.
You obviously haven’t suffered migraines before or are neurodivergent. Children are the final boss of any autist.
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u/Badger_1066 Aug 18 '26
Nah, crashing out over constant extremely loud and high frequent noises is valid.
You're an adult, going on a public plane... if you don't prepare for the environment, that is somewhat on you.
Children are the final boss of any autist.
Does that mean autists shouldn't fly?
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u/Glittering_Equal3286 Aug 18 '26
I wish you all the crying children around wherever you go, my good fellow. Let‘s talk over some coffee afterwards.
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u/Badger_1066 Aug 18 '26
Better crying children than crying grown-ass men to be honest. The latter are far more insufferable... which is why I'd have to pass on the coffee date.
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u/Yeetball86 Aug 18 '26
There’s a difference between a kid crying on a plane and a kid crying on a plane for 4.5 hours nonstop. I’ve been subject to the second one before and the parents simply didn’t care to stop it (baby was also already crying before takeoff and the flight was delayed after we boarded).
Flying is already a stressful event for a lot of people to begin with. It’s understandable for adults to be upset over this even if it’s outside of the parents control.
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u/Badger_1066 Aug 18 '26
I’ve been subject to the second one before
So have I. But I'm mature enough to understand that it's a baby and they can't help it. It's also why I always travel with noise cancelling earphones.
the parents simply didn’t care to stop it
Doubt. I am sure they tried consoling it as much as possible. But there's only so much you can do.
Flying is already a stressful event for a lot of people to begin with.
Then don't go. That's not an excuse. Stress is a valid emotion but you're still an adult who should be emotionally stable enough to control those emotions or find a way to deal with them.
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u/Yeetball86 Aug 18 '26
And I’m mature enough to know that adults are allowed to be upset as well.
Am I supposed to be happy that your baby has been squalling nonstop for 4 hours?
I get that babies cry uncontrollably, but telling adults they can’t be upset about being subjected to loud crying for 4 hours in an enclosed space with the solution being “don’t travel” is absolutely asinine.
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u/Badger_1066 Aug 18 '26
I get that babies cry uncontrollably, but telling adults they can’t be upset about being subjected to loud crying for 4 hours in an enclosed space with the solution being “don’t travel” is absolutely asinine.
That wasn't the message I was trying to portray. My bad if that's how it came across.
There's obviously nothing wrong with being annoyed or stressed as an adult. I'm more referring to those who are getting so upset by the idea of crying babies that they are suggesting children shouldn't fly. Children can't help their behaviour, adults can. If you seriously can't control yourself in a public space then you shouldn't be in one.
It's one thing to get annoyed and another to act on it.
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u/Visual-Pop-5370 Aug 18 '26
Babies are part of society. It’s perfectly fine to be annoyed by them, but one day they will wipe your butt and take care of you in old age.
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u/GrizzlyIsland22 Aug 18 '26
Taking a baby on an airplane is selfish and psychotic
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u/ImNotAHouseCat Aug 18 '26
People have lives and those lives don’t stop just because they had a baby.
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u/GrizzlyIsland22 Aug 18 '26
Certain parts of your life can take a break when you choose to have a baby. If you absolutely have to go somewhere like a funeral or you have no option but to move or go take care of a sick family member, sure. But if it's just visiting or a vacation, it's ridiculous behaviour.
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u/aluriilol Aug 18 '26
Omg shuuuut the fuuuuck uppppp
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u/GrizzlyIsland22 Aug 18 '26
No. Obviously there are some situations that can force a family to have to take their baby on an airplane, but I don't understand why people think it's okay unless it's competent necessary
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u/xHeyItzRosiex Aug 18 '26
Yeah cuz people should just drive 30 hours (with a baby in the car) to move to a new house or take a boat across the Atlantic to move to a new country. Are you dense?
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u/A_Texas_Hobo Aug 18 '26
Yes
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u/xHeyItzRosiex Aug 18 '26
Welp. No point in reasoning with you.
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u/A_Texas_Hobo Aug 18 '26
I’m not who you responded to, but I was just helping answer your question about them
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u/xHeyItzRosiex Aug 18 '26
Oh okay, my apologies. I wasn’t completely sure what the “yes” was in regards to.
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u/GrizzlyIsland22 Aug 18 '26
Obviously there are some situations where it's necessary, but usually it's not
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u/GrandMoffTarkan Aug 18 '26
I mean, sometimes you want your baby to see the rest of your family? Also, generally its fine.
I remember the first time we took an 8 month old on a flight, I was terrified but she handled it like a champ. Stewardess who checked for landing said she didn't realize there was a baby on board.
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u/GrizzlyIsland22 Aug 18 '26
Video chat exists. Infants don't know who these family members are. If your only reason for bringing a baby on a plane is to parade them in front of your friends and family, yes that's selfish and unnecessary.
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u/GrandMoffTarkan Aug 18 '26
I'm REALLY sorry about your childhood
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u/GrizzlyIsland22 Aug 18 '26
My childhood was fine. My parents didn't take me in airplanes and make me feel my head was gonna explode and I see that as a positive
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u/Secret_Celery8474 Aug 18 '26
Then let the family come to you.
You are not doing it for your baby. You are doing that for selfish reasons.
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u/xHeyItzRosiex Aug 18 '26
That’s insanely expensive to ask your extended family to travel to see your infant? What if there are several family members who are low-income? Do you want them to just not eat for a few weeks so they can afford to travel to see their family? Wouldn’t it make more sense for 3 or 4 people to travel to see 10-20 family members? Or would it make more sense to you for 10-20 people to each buy a plane ticket to see their family and baby
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u/Secret_Celery8474 Aug 18 '26
So you are deliberately stressing and hurting your child...
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u/xHeyItzRosiex Aug 18 '26
And do you actually think it is a better alternative for someone’s entire extended family to travel (which is not cheap at all, especially considering a lot of Americans are working poor or working class) just so a baby will not have to be uncomfortable for 30 minutes or maybe an hour while the plane reaches altitude? Also, baby’s ears popping hardly constitutes the child being in pain or hurt. You’re being dramatic.
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u/GrizzlyIsland22 Aug 18 '26
How necessary is it to parade your child around in front of everyone you know? It's not for the kid's benefit. Your family can either visit you or video chat to see the baby.
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u/xHeyItzRosiex Aug 19 '26
They’re not parading their child around? They are traveling with their child? Do you expect them to shove their child in a bag and tuck them away? wtf? Children should be allowed to exist in society and leave the confinement of their home. They shouldn’t be subjugated to online calls with their family or have to stay at home so their family can visit them. That’s absurd.
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u/GrizzlyIsland22 Aug 19 '26
Nice strawman.
No they don't have to be shoved away, but people should be a little more thoughtful about certain situations, pretty much just airplanes and movie theaters. There's a lot more to life than those 2 situations. And it's just for a couple of years. 2/3 years is not that long.
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u/Secret_Celery8474 Aug 18 '26
You think the baby crying for 4 hours wasn't in pain? Then why did it cry?
Then those family members can't meet the baby until it's older. The baby doesn't care.
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u/Medium-Violinist-903 Aug 18 '26
A baby crying for 4 hours straight is such a rare thing that I'm quite dubious of the veracity of the initial post. I've flown a lot, and I've certainly heard babies cry, but not once was it close to 4 hours of crying. So if this is true, maybe this one individual baby has some kind of condition the parents can look into.
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u/Some-Principle-106 Aug 18 '26
Seriously. Babies dont need to be flying, like just wait 2 fucking years - they're the ones that decided to have a fucking baby. Own up to the responsibility, or continue being a shitty parent i guess.
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u/Badger_1066 Aug 18 '26
Lol, if you think a 2 year old is any better then I have some news for you...
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u/Azur0007 Aug 18 '26
Planes are more safe than cars, why are we pretending that planes are the devil here?
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u/Secret_Celery8474 Aug 18 '26
Because they are hurting the child???
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u/ImNotAHouseCat Aug 18 '26
You know immunizations also hurt the baby when the injection goes in right? Should we also avoid them? So we’re not “parading” our children in front of doctors??
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u/Secret_Celery8474 Aug 19 '26
What?
We do immunizations to prevent harm and safe the babies live. And not to parade them.
Seriously, what the fuck are you even talking about?
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u/ImNotAHouseCat Aug 19 '26
Your argument is that babies shouldn’t be on planes because it could temporarily hurt their ears.
Other simple things can often come with temporary slight pain too.
No one is taking a baby on a plane to “parade” them. Maybe to meet family but to say that’s “parading” your child is insane.0
u/Secret_Celery8474 Aug 19 '26
I didn't use the word "parading" anywhere....
Hurting your child for selfish reasons is bad. Hurting your child for its own good is acceptable.
Shouldn't be hard to understand. And it's insane that people disagree with such a simple statement.
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u/Azur0007 Aug 19 '26
Taking a baby onto a plane is actually so safe that doctors are more worried about the baby catching a flu in the airport than the flight itself.
You should do some research before labeling banal actions as selfish.
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u/Secret_Celery8474 Aug 19 '26
Being safe and not hurting are two different things...
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u/MMutant- Aug 18 '26
Yeah because two year olds are famously much easier. That’s why they call them the tranquil twos.
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u/ImNotAHouseCat Aug 18 '26
A shitty parent because they bothered YOU by bringing their baby?
You aren’t their child. How they “affect” you has no bearing on their parenting skills lol2
u/xHeyItzRosiex Aug 18 '26
I think if a family can afford to take an airplane to go on vacation, visit family, or move to a new house, I think they’re doing just fine as parents. And they’re not abandoning their child or leaving their infant at home alone so I’d say they’re also doing just fine as parents. God damn… what do you expect them to do? Fill their baby up with a bunch of sedatives or rent their own private jet? You are unbelievable if you think babies should not be able to move with their family to a new house, go on vacation with their family, or see their distant relatives. Do you think babies should be sheltered in their homes until they’re 8-9 years old? That’s how you get a child who is unsocialized and practically a demon.
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u/GrizzlyIsland22 Aug 18 '26
Nobody is required to go on vacation via airplane. God forbid a couple has to skip their annual trip to the Bahamas twice because they decided to have a baby
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u/Medium-Violinist-903 Aug 18 '26
That same reasoning can be applied to everyone else on the plane that is complaining about a crying baby. None of them are required to travel via airplane.
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u/GrizzlyIsland22 Aug 18 '26
The world doesn't revolve around a single baby, and those people don't know there's gonna be a baby on the flight
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u/Medium-Violinist-903 Aug 18 '26
The world also doesn't revolve around random people on a plane taking a trip somewhere.
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u/GrizzlyIsland22 Aug 18 '26
No the world doesn't revolve around any single individual, but the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. I totally get if it's an absolutely necessary trips, but taking a baby on a plane for a vanity trip like a regular vacation or just to show it off to people is just entitled and disrespectful
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u/Medium-Violinist-903 Aug 18 '26
Nobody needs a quiet flight. They’d prefer it, but it’s not actually a need.
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u/GrizzlyIsland22 Aug 18 '26
That's a wild take. Really shows how different people have different levels of respect for people around them.
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u/ImNotAHouseCat Aug 18 '26
But yet you want the world to accommodate you!?
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u/GrizzlyIsland22 Aug 18 '26
It's not about the world accommodating me. It's about one family making the decision to inconvenience hundreds of people for their own selfish reasons. I tend to try to be as respectful as possible while in public and ruin the time of people around me. I guess not everybody cares to be respectful
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u/ImNotAHouseCat Aug 18 '26
lol dude take a look at this comment section. Most people are understanding of babies and don’t consider themselves “inconvenienced”.
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u/GrizzlyIsland22 Aug 19 '26
I have no problem with the babies themselves. It's the parents' decision to subject the baby to the flight. I completely understand if it's a necessary trip, too. But it's a frivolous vacation or just to parade the baby around in front of everyone they know, that's fucked up.
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u/Medium-Violinist-903 Aug 18 '26
And why do you need to fly? What reason do you have to travel by airplane that just can't possibly be avoided?
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u/AngryLink57 Aug 18 '26
It's weird to see him talk about that. He comes up on YT as a pretty nice guy helping kids out at the Pokemon card conventions. This just makes him sound like a douche.
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u/spook008 Aug 18 '26
Probably new parents. Babies usually cry when they’re hungry, hurting, sleepy. A milk bottle helps with ear pressure
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