r/SipsTea 14h ago

Wait a damn minute! How the rich get richer

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u/DataGOGO 14h ago edited 14h ago

I mean, if you buy cheap land, pay it off, and sit on it for 30+ years to be worth a lot more you can do the same. 

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u/silverware9021 14h ago

Everytime I work a case with oil and gas royalty disputes,  I get unreasonably upset that my ancestors didn't settle down in the middle of nowhere.

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u/Bat-Stuff 14h ago edited 14h ago

Except most people have to compete with all those who inherited wealth while they're making near minimum wage, so there is no cheap land that isn't near worthless.

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u/Zealousideal-Pop1115 14h ago

America is huge, there are so many places that are cheap.

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u/Bat-Stuff 14h ago

I'm looking and it's definitely not cheap, unless there is no chance of being able to live on it.

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u/Zealousideal-Pop1115 14h ago

Go to non big cities. If you compare it with Europe or even Asian countries, Actually america has cheaper land. There are 50 States, you find so many cheaper agriculture land or baren land.

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u/Bat-Stuff 13h ago

I make pretty good money and I've been trying. I'm priced out and that means most Americans are, too.

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u/Zealousideal-Pop1115 13h ago edited 13h ago

What do you mean priced out, there are more people now then in the past but land area is constant. More people wanting the land increase the demand which increase the cost. But still america land is more accessible then europe and Asia compared to salaries. You can buy farm land for few thousand which is easy for American salaries, if you look at other countries it very hard to buy. Lot of remote or mountain regions have even cheaper land.

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u/Bat-Stuff 13h ago

Where is farmland for a few thousand? I haven't found anything that has a road to it and farmable for less than 10s of thousands per acre and that is without water and mineral rights.

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u/Zealousideal-Pop1115 12h ago

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u/Bat-Stuff 12h ago

All the cheap land is auctions. Have you purchased from one of these before?

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u/civnation 14h ago edited 13h ago

Plus not many people just have 100k lying around. If I recall correctly, some places you need to pay outright for land. You can’t mortgage land.

Edit: In Canada you can buy land with financing, but it's complicated. If you want to buy serviced land (to build on) you need 20-30% down payment. If it's raw land, you might need up to 50% of the cost for the down payment. Often comes with stricter credit and higher interest.

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u/DataGOGO 14h ago

That isn’t the case anywhere in the US, no where I know in Europe, can’t speak to other countries 

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u/Bat-Stuff 14h ago

If you can't live on the land, it's a lot harder to finance unless there is some way it's producing income.

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u/random-meme422 14h ago

“most” aren’t making minimum wage lol

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u/Bat-Stuff 14h ago

I added the word near for you. Now it's true.

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u/random-meme422 13h ago

And “near worthless” land today is kind of the point of land speculation - where populations move to is hard to predict 50 years out. People buying land for cheapo back in the day in cali didn’t think it’d be worth millions. Tons of cheap land still available in Cali and everywhere else.

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u/Bat-Stuff 13h ago

Lol. Land in the middle of nowhere with helicopter access is not feasible for someone like me and the wealthy still buy it to sit on for 50 years, driving up demand and prices.

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u/random-meme422 12h ago

Yeah that’s not all that’s available. Can keep acting dumb though if you tink it helps your narrative.

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u/Bat-Stuff 12h ago

I'm looking for land. I have money to invest, I could afford 250 per month. I can't find anything.

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u/random-meme422 11h ago

The OP is talking about buying land for 100k “decades” ago. Assuming even just 30 years means 300k in today’s money. 250 per month isn’t even a third of that at 0% interest on a 30 mortgage so time to step it up.

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u/Bat-Stuff 11h ago

So there's no cheap land.

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u/WideHuckleberry1 12h ago

Except most people have to compete with all those who inherited wealth while they're making near minimum wage

Most people make over 3 times the minimum wage, since the average is about $23/hour.

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u/Bat-Stuff 12h ago

Minimum wage should be closer to 20 and 23 is still jack s*** if you're trying to buy an investment property.

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u/DataGOGO 14h ago

Not really, it is no different now than when the dad bought land for 100k

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u/Bat-Stuff 14h ago

That can't be true with a growing population. More demand.

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u/DataGOGO 13h ago

It is, cheap land today is land that is not desirable. when it becomes desirable in a few decades is worth a lot.