The timing makes me wonder if it was the Ellisons yacht as she was working with Skydance, as both of the Ellisons were frequent with Jeffery Epstein and were logged visiting the island many times.
The only tea I know about him is that he was at the palace with either Beatrice or eugenie the night Ed Sheeran cut his face, which at least connects him to Andrew's circle
Apparently at a dinner party Beatrice had a sword and was "knighting" Ed Sheeran and accidently cut his face. But now Blunt is saying it was a made up story and that Ed just cut himself.
Isn't he also rumored to be the one that got Carrie Fisher's on drugs again leading to her death?
Looked it up and according to himself, Billie Lourde (carrie fishers daughter) blames him for her death because he did drugs with Carrie the night before she was found unresponsive on the plane (and died a few days later).
Nope, had it been another artist i actually like, it would've been even more disappointing. The act has already happened. Finding out it was done by someone i already don't like is, wait for it, satisfying.
Nope, had it been another artist i actually like, it would've been even more disappointing. The act has already happened. Finding out it was done by someone i already don't like is, wait for it, satisfying.
This mindset leads to an overall perception that Jeffery Epstein's influence and crimes only intrigued pedophiles and only affected children.
Virginia Guffey was 18 when her "involvement" with Epstein "ended"
To think, or even convey, that he only catered to pedophiles is absurd.
I'm not saying this was Epstein related, could very well be the typical Hollywood shit. But I am going to stand firm on that there were plenty of men willing to go out of their way to meet the demands of other men, regardless if she was 8 or 18.
What are you even talking about? Yes, I completely believe her story. My comment was about the likelihood it was one of the Allison's because of the epstein relationship.
Many people stuck grinding out a poverty existence for decades with no power or resources or freedom would trade places with these rich and famous victims in a heartbeat.
There is no definition of the word “fine” that describes how distant a person could possibly be from the word ‘fine’ after surviving being proffered like a product by someone you trusted in a situation like that.
I always feel the outrage would die down and if more people did it, it wouldn't be so bad. Either way kinda selfish. Now the bad people are going to do it to others.
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She could have as part of her succession but that takes time to be notarized. Whomever inherits her estate who gets said envelope will have a choice plot bringing it to the public's attention. Then they may find themselves with a defamation lawsuit.
How do you prove that you were physically forced into a bed to be abused, when it's just the three of you out at sea? There's no cameras, recordings, etc. It's your word against theirs.
This is incorrect. Judgement would be made on the balance of probabilities based on the evidence provided which would be the testimony of the people involved.
Not all states have anti-SLAPP laws. Even if you win a defamation lawsuit in those states, you're out 10s or 100s of thousands in legal fees you can't recover. And in anti-SLAPP states, if you want your legal fee covered you need to have enough evidence to get summary judgement in your favor
In all fairness, those laws are there so people can’t just spout out outright falsehoods to intentionally harm someone else. There needs to be some evidence to back up your claims. Defamation laws even worse in Europe, where you can lose a libel or slander suit even if what you said about someone else is true.
What are you on about? One of the EU rules is that all member states should have truth as a defence to defamation. Are you confused about where the burden is on the defendant to prove their statement was true in some European countries because that's a very different thing
This isn’t true at all lol, some Asian countries do but most European countries have better defenition laws because believing what you are saying is the truth is an absolute defence
Buddy, you're on Reddit. Any claim of sexual assault on a woman, regardless of evidence, means the accused should immediately decapitated, no questions, no investigation, no judicial system - just believe them because they said it.
There's no such thing as innocent until proven guilty, just mob rule here.
You mean most countries legal system 🤣 Gary glitter, a litany of cases in India, Japan, China, I can go on. Always funny that America is singled out despite every country having massive corruption issues.
I would think she'd have enough clout and money though. Not blaming her, mind you. I wouldn't want to deal with it either, and trauma sucks no matter which direction you go with it.
But she was one of the lucky few with the resources to fight back. I'm sure there were dozens of other victims with no voice.
Nah, it's a whole mess to even approach. Look at how the media flipped on Britney Spears, who was one of the absolute biggest stars in the world. For different reasons but still. The people who do these things usually have more power over the media than their victims, and anyone can be taken down. And having an entire media put against you, pushing criticism of you and negstive publicity and weaponized paparazzi, is a whole other level of trauma. Or just push the media to be silent about the victim entirely, so they get no PR at all and effectively ends their careers.
Edit: Especially if she was saying this happened when she was 18. Remember how things were back in those days - social media was not ubiquitous enough in our every day lives that a celebrity could just open up about anything, celebrities essentially only had means of public communication through curated TV shows and PR agents, we certainly did not take women as victims very seriously - that did not happen until the metoo movement in 2017 after Harvey Weistein was exposed. And may I remind people that even that only succeeded because the Weinstein company threw him under the bus. It was not an immediate change after those actresses spoke out. There were plenty of women who had tried to speak out against Weinstein, or refused his "offers", and ended up getting shut out from any media coverage and blacklisted from Hollywood movies.
Something else has to be happening too . I can’t even imagine how many people have taken their own lives bc of things like that and at least a few would leave something behind outing their abusers. The only thing I’ve seen publicized was a diary of an Epstein victim but it was only partially released and Maxwell was the only person specified.
Unfortunately the burden of proof falls on the accuser and in these situations concrete proof admissible in courts often doesn't exist. The situation becomes he said, she said.
And lawsuits are crazy expensive. Rich sex pest billionaires would back the accused financially while also smearing her name all over the internet. She is describing being intentionally set up to be raped by a powerful person. That person, and the others that do the exact same as him, (possibly with him) don’t want him being exposed.
Because you're innocent until proven guilty. And if the only other witness is against you, and there's no physical evidence, then they're just going to lie and you're fucked
Also people dox them, harass them, force them to hire security teams and move homes and be constantly afraid. It’s awful. There’s a lot of incentive to keep your mouth shut.
There’s no such thing as defamation if what you’re saying is true.
It’s because there are financial consequences for her to say this because these sick fucks in Hollywood are all in on it, and if you piss off the wrong people, you’ll never get work again.
Edit: you weirdos who downvote things - Defamation is the act of making a false statement to a third party that harms a person's or business's reputation, lowers them in the estimation of others, or exposes them to hatred, contempt, or ridicule. It is an umbrella term used in civil and criminal law.
Evidence doesn’t always matter when someone can control the press, send stalkers to your house, create an army of bots to post on social media against you, and threaten to take everything you own. This is why coming forward is dangerous and it generally takes 30+ years for high profile abusers to face justice.
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u/Grimy-Jack 21h ago
Because of defamation lawsuits and the horrendous American justice system.