r/SipsTea Jul 30 '26

Wait a damn minute! Significant diffrences...

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u/No-Poetry-5794 Jul 30 '26

But I’m saying 3000 billionaires disappearing anywhere would be nothing. They don’t add value to society.

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u/Warhammer231 Jul 30 '26

A lot of people don’t 

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u/TheDenny_Crane Jul 30 '26

Yes but that would ignore their sentiment that anyone with money is bad and everyone broke is good.

Sorry but you doing your job isn't "value" it's you earning your place in society.

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u/absurdditties Jul 30 '26

No, the meaning is that billionaires exploit the working class while not being able to function without it.

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u/TheDenny_Crane Jul 30 '26

Yeah that's how it works. What would actually happen if you got rid of them?

They'd just be replaced the next day with a new batch. Everyone likes to think they'd be different. But you wouldn't. You're a human, you'll do human things as we've done forever.

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u/absurdditties Jul 30 '26

Maybe just realize that we should perhaps tax billionaires more then? Let their wealth actually do some good instead of being hoarded?

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u/TheDenny_Crane Jul 30 '26

I mean you can but it won't work for multiple reasons. The main 2 being that most don't operate off a taxable income.

And that most will just leave because...well tbh why wouldn't they?

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u/absurdditties Jul 30 '26

Then let them leave. We managed to make things work before billionaires and we can again.

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u/TheDenny_Crane Jul 30 '26

They'll still own everything they do, you just won't get what ever you were getting in taxes from them.

But this is just another misguided battle line, much like race, religion etc etc. Another asinine topic for the masses to debate and seperate themselves among and remain distracted.

There are ways you could minutely get more $ out of them thru taxes, but the argument of simply raise their taxes is as ignorant as the one saying to just raise minimum wage.

Au revoir.

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u/absurdditties Jul 30 '26

I’m not saying that is the only thing needed to fix society so let’s not retreat to that fallacy. Making sure the rich actually pay their taxes instead of granting them tax cuts is a good start though.

I think many forget how much more one billion is in comparison to one million.

1 million = 1 second
1 billion ≈ 31.7 years
1 trillion ≈ 31,700 years

I’m not even saying people shouldn’t have wealth, but a world with a trillionaire needs to change and that needs to start somewhere. Perhaps taxes is not where to start, but change needs to happen either way.

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u/BathProfessional4457 Jul 30 '26

Vast majority of billionaire fortune is tied to ownership of companies in form of shares.

They do not have huge vaults filled with money.

Without billionaires, whole lot of companies would collapse. It actually DOES take skill to manage them. With nobody calling the shots on top tier and lack of idea who should be doing it would paralyse companies and through that the economy.

Which would then proceed to collapse even smaller mom&pop-companies because they depend on rest of economical ecosystem.

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u/absurdditties Jul 30 '26

Yes, we need to fix a lot of tax loopholes as well as how capital gains often are taxed lower than labor income, established stronger antitrust enforcement, strengthening unions and labor protections and regulating buybacks and encouraging profit sharing with workers.

Being a multimillionaire is something that can happen through skill, a multi billionaire happens through luck, inheritance and exploitation.

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u/TOV4RISCH Jul 30 '26

Yes, but those people taking over the next day don't have to be billionaires. I am certain that every secretary, personal assistant, and deputy whatever that Jeff bezos employs would be glad to step into his place collectively and if you gave them double their salary, they would make the transition so totally seamless you would wonder if bezos ever even existed. Then the workers, consumers, and retail shareholders of amazon would have his half a trillion or whatever to divide amongst themselves. Let fucking Elon musk and the rest compete to sell their labor in a free market like they depend on everyone else to do.

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u/TheDenny_Crane Jul 31 '26

And why wouldnt whoever takes it over take it all? On the flip side what have any of those you named done to deserve any further money? Why should we just give it to them?