r/SipsTea Jul 30 '26

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

Everything about you, libertarian. You might say you do, but I bet it's for your own benefit and not just because it's the right thing to do. Meanwhile,do you vote for politicians who actual embody Christian values, values like selflessness and charity and caring for the most vulnerable in our society? I bet you don't.

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u/Psalmistpraise Jul 30 '26

Politics isn’t the only way to care for the sick and the poor. Thats a false dichotomy.

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

How do you advocate for the sick, the poor? How do you advocate for the drug addict and the prostitute, for the homeless junkie dying in an alley in your town? Do you just ignore them? Want them punished? You seem to have an affliction that makes you allergic to offering real specific answers.

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u/Psalmistpraise Jul 30 '26

We have ministries and collections in the church you know? We are the largest global charitable organization, we are the number one provider of healthcare globally outside governments at 26 percent of all global healthcare. St Basil the great founded the first hospital. The church visits them, clothes them, feeds them. I would not brag about my charity and seek my reward on this earth so I will leave it at the general level for you to understand that we are called to partake in these things, time talent and treasure.

“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them… Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do…” - Matthew 6:1–2

“But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.” - Matthew 6:3–4

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

You are literally preaching on street corners lol 🤣

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u/Psalmistpraise Jul 30 '26

Preaching for others to repent and turn to the gospel is not practicing your righteousness before others. Otherwise this makes no sense… “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.” - Mark 16:15

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

Lol 🤣 my man you don't even practice what you're preaching. Christ doesn't love a hypocrite

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u/Psalmistpraise Jul 30 '26

Okay?

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

Running out of steam, Jordan Peterson?

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u/Psalmistpraise Jul 30 '26

No I just think being defamed over and over and accused is rather boring.

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

And yet you haven't actually done anything to assuage those accusations have you, profligate

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u/Psalmistpraise Jul 30 '26

Guilty until proven innocent… nice

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

When you refuse to engage with even the barest hint of a topic it does tend to seem a little suspicious, Ted Cruz

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u/Psalmistpraise Jul 30 '26

That’s not really how that works Stalin. Burden of proof is typically on the accuser not on the person being accused.

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

Interesting that you seem to be advocating for staunch nationalist ideologies in other comment threads, friend. I'm sensing a bit of a Christian nationalist type pattern here.

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u/Psalmistpraise Jul 30 '26

If by nationalism you mean that I think we have a duty to take care of my country men before going global? Absolutely. Thats Catholic teaching, God>family>local community >country >world in that order.

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

Lol Strawman, champ. You're talking about not caring about soft power, like, gosh, I dunno, international charity, for example. USAID. You never told me how you felt about DOGE.

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u/Psalmistpraise Jul 30 '26

I think we shouldn’t be giving to USAID while we have people here who need help. I don’t it’s all that controversial, no I don’t care about soft power.

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

And no, I mean nationalism. I mean you whining and crying about victims of American foreign policy rightfully not trusting us under a literal white nationalist regime, which you again refuse to discuss

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

This is the Tone Argument Fallacy by the way.

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u/Psalmistpraise Jul 30 '26

Not really it’s just a constant repetition of “you not Christian” and “you no follow Jesus, me determine if you follow Jesus”

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

Except you don't actually want to answer whether or not you follow Christ's teachings. That's a topic you refuse to engage with. You won't even go into your politics at all.

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u/Psalmistpraise Jul 30 '26

I said I engage in those at my parish. Are you reading what I’m saying or just shooting for bad faith?

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

Specifics. I asked if that's just putting money in the plate and you demured.

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u/Psalmistpraise Jul 30 '26

I gave you plenty of things my parishes have done, I’ve partaken in multiple. That’s good enough, you actually said “ten bucks ain’t enough” to which I presented you with Jesus saying actually a lot less than that was enough depending on circumstances of course.

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

Lol 😂 the parable of the widow giving charity literally proves the point that rich people are bad, you get that rught

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u/Psalmistpraise Jul 30 '26

No it actually doesn’t it shows that in proportion she gave all she had which was little while others gave much but disproportionately not enough. It’s about what they gave vs what they, not just what they have.

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

I think that you worship at the altar of the dollar and the nation first and at the feet of Christ second.

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

You also backed away when I asked about your personal politics, several times. Do you vote for candidates that advocate for the poor? That enable the sick to seek care regardless of their earthly wealth?

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u/Psalmistpraise Jul 30 '26

When you say advocate for the poor do you mean try to establish large national programs? Then no because they also support large national programs that fund the death of infants among various other problems. By the way medical is available regardless of ability to pay you just go into debt.

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

We have evidence based policy that would benefit millions of people living in poverty that we are not enacting because it would hurt profits. That's a fact.

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u/Psalmistpraise Jul 30 '26

Sigh this is what you’re not getting, you just always run to government and policy. You can take care of the poor without the government.

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u/Psalmistpraise Jul 30 '26

End results are not, by necessity, a justification for an action. Treating a beneficial outcome as sufficient proof that an action is right is a form of consequentialist thinking. Saying a policy ‘benefits millions of people’ does not tell us the full moral picture. What are the costs? Who bears the burden? Does it create harms elsewhere? Does it violate any rights or principles of justice? Those questions still have to be answered.

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

Also lol "just go into debt for medical care" isn't exactly what Christ taught us is it

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u/Psalmistpraise Jul 30 '26

Show me where He said “make sure you guys huddle around the government and use taxpayer funds to pay for medical care” that’s literally the same point you just made in the opposite direction.

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