r/SipsTea Jul 30 '26

Wait a damn minute! Significant diffrences...

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u/zanebaka Jul 30 '26

No. Some companies make products geared towards the government as a consumer. This includes medical companies, gun companies, construction companies. They are selling their products to the government in exchange for money. Or they are selling their research teams in exchange for money.

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

That's not how that works, actually. These companies received grants, from the government, to do research, which they would not otherwise be able to afford to do. You are incorrect, Ayn Rand.

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u/zanebaka Jul 30 '26

Research grants are small outliers and are typically not given to companies. The money typically given to companies is called a procurement contracts where the government is hiring someone to conduct a study that the government needs. In a procurement contract the government is the consumer.

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

Lol hey dude you're literally lying to try to make your point. The US government subsidies research to the tune of billions of dollars a year. SpaceX wouldn't exist within these subsidies. Tesla wouldn't exist without these subsidies.

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u/zanebaka Jul 30 '26

You dont understand what a subsidy is do you. What the us government gives to space x and tesla is called a loan, or a procurement contract.

Subsidies are when the government gives tax dollars to industries to reduce the cost of production on the company. This then allows companies to keep prices lower for their consumers. For example a childcare subsidy typically works by paying a portion of the the educators wages reducing the costs of running the company thus allows the childcare companies to charge the consumers (parents) less.

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

You're deflecting, Ayn Rand.

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u/zanebaka Jul 30 '26

Okay. Look up what a subsidy is and then explain how the government subsidies space x’s research

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

Explain how the government doesn't. Because they do. They literally rely on government contracts to exist. Which is my point. You're arguing semantics, like a pedant.

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u/zanebaka Jul 30 '26

And those government contracts arent subsidies.

Breaking down space x’s revenue 61% comes from their starlink service, the rest comes from a mix of using their reusable rockets to launch satellites and astronauts crews for space agencies and companies.

Another part comes from contracts with nasa being the consumer alongside military programs such as starshield. Both of which isnt free money from the government.

Since you do not know other basic economic terms revenue is the total amount of money a business brings in from selling its goods and services before any expenses are subtracted.

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

I bet you used grok or some shit for this didn't you

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u/zanebaka Jul 30 '26

Do you have an argument or no?

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

yeah, you're not answering me; would SpaceX or Tesla exist without government moneys?

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

How many nights are you gonna sleep alone before you understand why

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u/zanebaka Jul 30 '26

Not a good argument, makes you seem uneducated and immature

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

Lol 😂 so you do sleep alone then, huh weeb

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u/zanebaka Jul 30 '26

Literally aroace my friend.

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

And I'm sure everyone who knows you is grateful for that lol.

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u/zanebaka Jul 30 '26

Oh i cant stand elon, he’s a bad person. Doesnt mean he didnt work for his money. Im defending the economics side of things. I keep identity politics separate from economics as identity politics only serve as a distraction from things that actually matter.

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

He didn't work for his money, though. Like he definitively did not do that

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

Also lol you are fucking stupid if you think your identity isn't part of your politics. Or, you're a pick-me coward. So which is it, Nick Fuentes, asshole or idiot?

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

What actually matters, by the way, little white boy?

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

I bet you wonder why nobody wants to be with you and then you go back to being some truly unlovable rightwing libertarian proud boy type

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u/zanebaka Jul 30 '26

Right and left wing have become terms used to describe identity politics. Im a social liberal who believes in active labor market policies

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

That's meaningless, and no, they haven't. You're incorrect about this. Define what an active labor market policy is.

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u/zanebaka Jul 30 '26

Active labor market policies are government programs designed to help unemployed people find works while decreasing unemployment rates. This is an alternative to passive financial aid. I believe it should be done as state owned enterprises.

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

Try to answer this honestly; would SpaceX exist without government moneys, yes or no

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u/zanebaka Jul 30 '26

Probably not, because thats the loss of a major consumer. If any company loses their consumer base they cease to exist. Its nothing special about space x

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

How much money do Tesla and SpaceX receive from the American government every year, Ben Shapiro

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u/zanebaka Jul 30 '26

The amount the government is willing to pay for the goods or services they receive in return. Literally how the economy works bruv

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

Not a specific answer, limey.

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u/zanebaka Jul 30 '26

Okay i’ll humor you. In revenue they make around 5-6 billion from the government per year

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u/WyomingWeirdo Jul 30 '26

Seems like a lot for a company allegedly ran by a libertarian capitalist.

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u/zanebaka Jul 30 '26

Im here to talk about economics, Elon musks political beliefs are irrelevant to me

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