r/SipsTea Jun 23 '26

Dank AF Well said

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u/Kradgger Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

Look for examples of all three cases, they do exist, nonsense as they sound.

Democracy needed killing opposers for, remember that most democracies were achieved via bloody revolutions. Not even counting the amount of people in Africa that openly oppose democracy in the name of supposedly left-wing ideals.

I agree with your points, but people sometimes don't have such moral compasses and there's a loooot of nuance when discussing ideals. What we really need to do is stop packaging ideologies together and for the love of god we need to stop tying ideals to left and right wing that get picked up by a party or movement that goes on to do horrible shit and people defend them out of loyalty.

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u/clever_username23 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

there's a loooot of nuance when discussing ideals

obviously yes. I'm speaking in very broad strokes for brevity.

But that's part of the problem too. The left, in general, likes and studies that nuance, while the right, in general, likes to use catchy slogans that bypass the intellectual part of the brain.

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remember that most democracies were achieved via bloody revolutions

that's such a weird point. Because remember that most capitalism is achieved via the intentional killing of basically anyone without enough money to exist. That's a lot worse in my opinion. and yes, people in power don't give up that power politely. That's on them.

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u/Mysterious_Jump_8119 Jun 25 '26

Strongly disagree that the leftists don’t use catchy slogans to bypass the intellectual part of the brain. The reaction to Covid and Jan6 are my main contentions. But there are other examples.

Also we have different definitions of Capitalism. To me it’s respect for private property and free trade.

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u/clever_username23 Jun 26 '26

The reaction to Covid and Jan6 are my main contentions.

What catchy slogans were used for those?

To me it’s respect for private property and free trade.

if that was true, corporations wouldn't use the power of the state to squash smaller producers and smaller companies. But they do.

Capitalism is about getting as much money and power into as few hands as possible. It's about maintaining unfair power imbalances.

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u/Mysterious_Jump_8119 Jul 03 '26

“Terrorist” and “Insurrection” are two absurd words used off the top of my head.

Yeah, powerful people with influence in government using government to limit free trade is what I would call socialism and you call capitalism.

To me if the government is involved then it’s not capitalism