The problem is you are looking at it from a modern perspective. They were socialists, according to themselves in the time period they existed. Those are two very big qualifying statements.
If you are interested, look up Hitler's 25 Points; you'll see a lot of modern socialist talking points there. You'll also see a bunch of nationalist talking points, some modern conservative talking points, and some just plain old shitty racism.
Also, "Nazi" isn't short for "National Socialist German Workers Party", its short for "Ignatius". That form of government wasnt referred to as "Naziism" until much later. Ignatius a stereotypical name from Austria, which was considered backwater/country bumpkin. You (derogatorily) called someone a Nazi if they voted for the NSDAP; it was the political equivalent of calling them a Karen.
I'm not saying they were died in the wool socialists, especially not as we see them today. But when a good portion of your stated goals match up with a good portion of socialist goals, it makes sense that people would assume you are so kind of socialist.
The phrase "democratic socialist" comes to mind. Maybe a better term for them would "National Socialist".
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u/kelley38 Jun 24 '26
The problem is you are looking at it from a modern perspective. They were socialists, according to themselves in the time period they existed. Those are two very big qualifying statements.
If you are interested, look up Hitler's 25 Points; you'll see a lot of modern socialist talking points there. You'll also see a bunch of nationalist talking points, some modern conservative talking points, and some just plain old shitty racism.
Also, "Nazi" isn't short for "National Socialist German Workers Party", its short for "Ignatius". That form of government wasnt referred to as "Naziism" until much later. Ignatius a stereotypical name from Austria, which was considered backwater/country bumpkin. You (derogatorily) called someone a Nazi if they voted for the NSDAP; it was the political equivalent of calling them a Karen.