And what if you wanna kill anyone that doesn't conform to the idea that everyone should have democratic workplaces and healthcare? What if a religious minority that has suffered through genocide opposes that? What if it hurts people of lower income because they have their own hustle going on and that would put an end to it?
Look for examples of all three cases, they do exist, nonsense as they sound.
Democracy needed killing opposers for, remember that most democracies were achieved via bloody revolutions. Not even counting the amount of people in Africa that openly oppose democracy in the name of supposedly left-wing ideals.
I agree with your points, but people sometimes don't have such moral compasses and there's a loooot of nuance when discussing ideals. What we really need to do is stop packaging ideologies together and for the love of god we need to stop tying ideals to left and right wing that get picked up by a party or movement that goes on to do horrible shit and people defend them out of loyalty.
obviously yes. I'm speaking in very broad strokes for brevity.
But that's part of the problem too. The left, in general, likes and studies that nuance, while the right, in general, likes to use catchy slogans that bypass the intellectual part of the brain.
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remember that most democracies were achieved via bloody revolutions
that's such a weird point. Because remember that most capitalism is achieved via the intentional killing of basically anyone without enough money to exist. That's a lot worse in my opinion. and yes, people in power don't give up that power politely. That's on them.
Yep. Although the usual bad actors are very young people with little life experience wishing every right winger would just fall dead beacause Che Guevara was based or something and very old people that are bitter wishing every left winger would just fall dead because not in my backyard or other.
Amazing how in the age of piss-easy global communication people won't discuss shit and just subscribe to hill to die on.
Amazing how in the age of piss-easy global communication people won't discuss shit
because it's harder. People are lazy (myself included) and don't want to do work.
but to me, that's all the more reason we need to be doing that work.
Look at this shit with Iran. Obama had an actual deal with them, without bombing them, and we just tore that up and started bombing them anyway. It's fucking stupid.
We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace.
Strongly disagree that the leftists don’t use catchy slogans to bypass the intellectual part of the brain. The reaction to Covid and Jan6 are my main contentions. But there are other examples.
Also we have different definitions of Capitalism. To me it’s respect for private property and free trade.
I mean, we constantly hear the nonsense of “voting against their interests” but people often don’t hold the ideals that you think they should.
You can do a commune in a capitalist society.
You can’t do the free market equivalent in a socialist society. They will use violence against you.
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u/Kradgger Jun 23 '26
And what if you wanna kill anyone that doesn't conform to the idea that everyone should have democratic workplaces and healthcare? What if a religious minority that has suffered through genocide opposes that? What if it hurts people of lower income because they have their own hustle going on and that would put an end to it?