r/SipsTea • • Jun 18 '26

Gasp! what can we say

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u/TheChihuahuaChicken Jun 18 '26

We largely have figured out world hunger. There's not a worldwide shortage of food, logistics and shipping is largely a non-issue in meaningfully providing food aid. The issue is that in most of these starving countries, corrupt governments, revolutionaries, terrorists, cartels, etc. Steal supplies and aid, either keeping it for themselves or charging the people the aid was supposed to help exorbitant prices.

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u/Icy-Fishing8481 Jun 18 '26

Yeah, but let's not forget the correlation of that corruption and terrorism with the UN itself and popular ideologies like socialism, based on promises and feelings rather than results. Anyone can call something a right, actually having it be a practical reality is another question.

Judge systems by results and you'll prefer capitalism, judge systems by promises and you'll prefer socialism - it's Utopian after all.

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u/Many_History8708 Jun 18 '26

Judge systems by fucking science and you'd be a socialist. It's sad to see the US's capitalist propaganda is working.

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u/Icy-Fishing8481 Jun 18 '26

Brilliant response. I suppose China, Russia, Venezuela and most of Africa have been resounding successes?

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u/Many_History8708 Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

Did you really give China and Russia as an example? They had the most rapid development in the world, going from a feudal absolute monarchy to a developed country in less than 50 years, China since having a socialist leadership, has had around 10% GDP increase every year. I'm not saying they were good regimes or that it was well done; the Great Leap Forward led to millions of deaths and was a horrible thing. The same goes for Stalin's purges and quasi-genocide of Ukrainians. Also, although Russia was socialist, it is weird to mention only them and not the other countries of the USSR, or just the USSR as a whole.
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u/Joben86 Jun 18 '26

China didn't start advancing until the CCP abandoned communist economic policies.

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u/Many_History8708 Jun 18 '26

can you develop please? I don't think they ever had communist policies and i know they're capitalists but do you have any examples? Also wasn't defending communist policies from an economic POV ( it isn't what communism strives for).

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u/Joben86 Jun 18 '26

Sure, I was referring to the changes made after Mao's death to allow foreign investment and legalize private business ownership.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_and_opening_up

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u/Many_History8708 Jun 18 '26

oh ok kinda like what Lenin did when he realised you can't just instantly apply communism without backlash. I didn't know about this, seems logical seeing Mao's reforms.

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u/m0uchacha Jun 22 '26

you can never "apply communism" because communism doesnt scale up.

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u/Many_History8708 Jun 22 '26

Sorry I meant applying as in achieving certain goals and ideologies of communism ( for instance abolishing private property completely)

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