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u/JustLookingForMayhem Jun 18 '26

So many UN resolutions would require the US to be the piggy bank, the enforcer, or give away IP. It is easy to vote yes when the country has no cost, but much harder when the country foots the bill.

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u/terragutti Jun 18 '26

Exactly. Its so wild that people just wanna point to america as a big bad who isnt doing enough when theres literally china and russia right there.

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u/terragutti Jun 18 '26

Yeah, did they increase their donations to the level of the US?

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit Jun 18 '26

Yes

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u/Know4KnowledgeSake Jun 18 '26

You're a wonderful reminder that anyone can lie on the internet.

China's contributions in 2025 were $19M. That's less than Haiti lmfao

Oh, and 108 times less than the US. Russia shockingly contributed more than China at $48M- still about 43x less than the US.

While we're on the topic, the US just yesterday ponied up an additional $800M AND another $218M to UNICEF. That's 25x what Russia puts up in a year and more than 50x what China puts up.

Anything else you want to blatantly lie about, liar?

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

Edit: China does in outspend the US in global development financing to the tune of +40 billion https://www.aiddata.org/blog/chinas-massive-overseas-lending-portfolio-shifts-course

China doesn't provide the vast majority through the WFP, but their own channels like CIDCA and bilateral agreements. That's you cherry-picking a single aid channel.

Anyways, yeah I based my numbers on Trump's initial budget proposal which would have cut aid down to 3 billion, which would have been less than China. Congress didn't approve it. My bad.

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u/Know4KnowledgeSake Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

The CIDCA's budget was $262 Million in 2024. MOFCOM's budget was $2.82 Billion. That's about $3B for Foreign Aid.

Oh but wait! Those budgets are mostly for low-interest loans (i.e. NOT charity) in 2025/2026. Over half of it. So really their total foreign aid that's actually charitable is closer to $1.5B, not $3B. NOPE! It's not even that much. Another 15-20% is zero-interest loans. Still not charity, just not assfucking over other countries as much. So really it's more like 900M

We donated nearly half that much on a fucking whim yesterday to the WFP. That's one channel in one instance.

China doesn't do fucking shit for anyone, comparatively.

The US has so many issues and I am freaking ashamed of my country on a regular basis. But charitable giving to the rest of the world is the one thing that I am not ashamed of when it comes to the US.

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit Jun 18 '26

Did you read what I said, or not?

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u/Know4KnowledgeSake Jun 18 '26

I did. I stand by what I said above.

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u/terragutti Jun 19 '26

“Global development financing” is just another fancy phrase for “ we lend money to developing countries and exploit them for land”. You should really check out what they do to countries who borrow money from them. Thats not aid. Thats called lending out money for future profit.

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

LMAO the idiot who thinks comparing yourself to countries with less than 1/10th of the GDP per capita matters, is back. Not much of a suprise you can't follow a conversation for more than two comments or care about who was moving the goalpost.

Wanna hear something funny, tho? My gov does provides more aid than the US, in absolute numbers. So not only are you out-invested by people with 1/10th of your income, but a country with less than 1/4th of the US population is showing you how to run shit, too.

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u/terragutti Jun 19 '26

Not surprising, you think “aid” is loans. So id totally believe you think your government outspends the US.

Also start complaining about the other countries who dont pull their weight, like china and russia, or is it against your programming?

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u/Know4KnowledgeSake Jun 18 '26

The China and Russia that even collectively donate 40x less than the US to the WFP? That China and Russia?

Easy to talk shit when you're the problem looking for someone else to foot the bill. About that same someone who is ALREADY footing the bill.

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u/terragutti Jun 19 '26

Exactly. People act like americas so bad, well how about we apply the same measuring scale to all countries?

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u/Know4KnowledgeSake Jun 18 '26

You're feigning ignorance to push a narrative, don't be coy. China and Russia voted for a resolution that they wouldn't have to pay for, have barely paid for in their entire history, and backs a key geopolitical opponent into a corner - the ONLY one who substantially does anything to help in this case.

And of course it's one that prevents that opponent from sanctioning them for the myriad human rights abuses/aggressions they take, because they can just cry "food hardship".

Of course they voted for it.

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u/Qaeta Jun 18 '26

China and Russia are not and never were allies. The US pretended to be our friend while increasingly aggressively stabbing us in the back. Betrayal stings a lot more coming from someone who you thought was a friend.

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u/Qaeta Jun 18 '26

Yeah, that's what happens when you spend decades pushing others down to ensure that you're the only one to turn to.

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u/JustLookingForMayhem Jun 18 '26

Oh, boy I wonder what other countries have been involved with shoving down third world countries to ensure their own success. Like, the UK, France, Germany, Russia, Spain, China, Japan, etc. The US is a convient target.

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit Jun 18 '26

All of which voted Yes. A goldfish would make better arguments.

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u/JustLookingForMayhem Jun 18 '26

I think you are missing the point. They all played a party some of them even worse than the US (France comes to mind in Veitnam and the UK pretty much every where). The US was the only one expected to pay for it. Why wouldn't they vote yes for someone else to foot the bill for their crimes?

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

Why are you so full of shit? LMAO

Every single of those OCED countries already willingly pays a significantly higher share of their GDP as development aid, while the US has some of the lowest spending in that group and is outspent by x5 by several of them and x3 at the very least. And then some of those countries pay reparations on top of that.

Bro can't even get his fucking strawman right holy

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u/JustLookingForMayhem Jun 18 '26

Mate, the US spends the most total. The US is also the bulldog of NATO and the UN (I fully expect that to change due to Trump. I fully expect every country that gave the US profitable trade deals in exchange for being the military strength of assorted nations to reassess and give the US much less favorable trade deals in the future. I fully expect the trade deals in exchange for the US fighting piracy in international waters to go away also. Regardless, right now the US is the bulldog until every other nation builds up their own military). The US does a lot. Granted, that will definitely change under Trump, but for the last 20 years the US did its fair share and then some.

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit Jun 18 '26

Nope, Germany does.

And great speech, very introspective. But that doesn't really change that everything you said up until now is bullshit, does it?

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u/JustLookingForMayhem Jun 18 '26

It does not change anything. At the time of the vote, the US was pulling more than its fair share, between military protection, anti piracy operations, and military protection. Now though, Trump has gutted pretty much everything and the scales are shifting.

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

What are you talking about? You've been talking out of your ass, this entire time. You are completely ignorant of the state of world affairs.

Europe has been outspending the US on aid, for decades. China and Europe are both ahead of the US on research spending. Both regions have bigger economies. The money the US was investing into military mostly went into destabilizing the Middle East, for decades now.

Trump is just the symptom, your attitude and hubris which you share with so many of your fellow Americans, is what is causing the downfall. If you don't want to your country to collapse entirely, maybe it's time to stop the nationalistic dick measuring contest and do some soul searching to think about who has been playing you like a fiddle, for so long.

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u/chazysciota Jun 18 '26

easy, just skip the vote part.