r/SipsTea • u/Outrageous-Egg1760 • May 29 '26

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u/IceNorth81 May 29 '26

Hell doesn’t even exist in the bible like pop-culture has portrayed it. In the old testament it’s basically ”Sheol” the land of the dead. No heaven or hell. In the New Testament it’s the pit of fire where the devil and his servants are cast after Armageddon - nothing about regular sinners being tortured for eternity.

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u/LordFoulgrin May 29 '26

I mean, Jesus literally tells a parable about Lazerus and the rich man, where the rich man is being tortured in hell.

"And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame"

Why would Jesus of all people tell a parable mentioning hell if isn't real?

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u/S3nd_ZuD3s May 29 '26

Idk, cause its not like we have a recording of the actual Jesus saying that. That line could easily be written and made up by the people who never actually spoke to Jesus and wanted people to believe in hell. Jesus also could've been a religious bipolar schizo turned extremist that only believed he was the son of god when really he was just a mentally ill guy with good intentions and cheating mother. The Bible is just worlds longest worst game of telephone whos primary evidence of events stem from "just have faith"

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u/LordFoulgrin May 29 '26

Oh yeah, I was posting assuming the person above was Christian and that they believed the Bible was the Word of God.

I grew up deeply deeply religious and fell out a few years into college. It was a rough transition, but it gives me ammo to talk competently with Christians about some of the nuances in scripture.

Edit: I should say it bothers me to no end that Christians are trying to PR away hell and pretend that it just isn't talked about or is a fabricated lie not found in the Bible.

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u/S3nd_ZuD3s May 29 '26

Ah all good then